California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3859778 United States 01/18/2023 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Prayandprepare000 Don Colson, a former engineer at DWR, told NBC Bay Area that the green spot on the face of the Oroville Dam could be a sign that the phreatic surface is already leaking internally through the face of the dam. If the phreatic surface comes out at the wrong place and the wrong speed, it could erode the structure from the inside, and if enough force is created, it could wash away the entire dam. ... "Do not try to ignore persistent 'wet spots' in the nation's tallest embankment dam," Bea said to xxx. "Do not try to explain them away using 'trite explanations' like 'all dams have leaks' or 'it is a natural spring.' This dam is an extremely important part of our California water supply infrastructure system. If this dam failed catastrophically during high water in the reservoir, there would be significant deaths and injuries, loss of property and productivity, and damage to the environment." ... Pretty sure they doused the wet spot with RoundUp a couple of years ago so people wouldn't be alarmed. Moisture/vegetation creeping out again from left shoulder (looking downstream) of dam face. Fines in soil should be uniform across/up and down dam face, regardless of layered phases of construction. That shouldn't affect uniformity of dam face soil. You shouldn't be able to see 'layers' from construction because they should all have been well buried by face fill when dam was completed. Green bands/spot can ONLY be caused by soil fines being washed out/pushed through dam face. Face surface erosion would produce vertical bands, not horizontal ones. There is significant surface erosion just below wet spot, but this detail wouldn't be very visible from satellite imagery. Nothing interesting/different about latest imagery besides intensity (bright green spot) of vegetation rendering. Prolonged recent rains shouldn't have mattered. Some vegetation always grows on dam face during winter rains. It's the uneven nature of that growth that's a red flag. DWR has continuously claimed awareness of the green spot and dismisses any concern about it. They supposedly sank a monitoring well on the left shoulder uphill of green spot, but never said much about it besides 'natural spring'. Note: the drain curtain inside the middle of the dam should take care of any water intrusion from the shoulder. It extends all the way to either end of the dam, including over/beyond the left shoulder green spot. I guess there's a remote chance that the shoulder's 'natural spring' empties closer to the face of the dam than it does to the core. DWR has no way of knowing what vertical region(s) of the drain curtain may be plugged/compromised, so it seems improbable that they can determine with any certainty that there is no safety concern here. If the dam ever fails on the left shoulder, then they will have a lot of explaining to do (to taxpayers and downstream survivors). Nice to know the largest earth-fill dam in the U.S. has a natural spring saturating its face in a region of uneven settlement. What could possible go wrong? https://twitter.com/_/status/1615880005938028544 https://twitter.com/_/status/1615882637624721409 YO! YOU HAVE BROUGHT THE REAL SHIT HERE..THANK YOU. DAM HAS NATURAL SPRING..GREAT. AND THAT IS THE BEST CASE ANSWER THEY HAVE GOT. DARKER COLOR IS A NUTRIENT SUPPLY OF WATER, RIGHT? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80559373 United States 01/18/2023 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Prayandprepare000 Don Colson, a former engineer at DWR, told NBC Bay Area that the green spot on the face of the Oroville Dam could be a sign that the phreatic surface is already leaking internally through the face of the dam. If the phreatic surface comes out at the wrong place and the wrong speed, it could erode the structure from the inside, and if enough force is created, it could wash away the entire dam. ... "Do not try to ignore persistent 'wet spots' in the nation's tallest embankment dam," Bea said to xxx. "Do not try to explain them away using 'trite explanations' like 'all dams have leaks' or 'it is a natural spring.' This dam is an extremely important part of our California water supply infrastructure system. If this dam failed catastrophically during high water in the reservoir, there would be significant deaths and injuries, loss of property and productivity, and damage to the environment." ... Pretty sure they doused the wet spot with RoundUp a couple of years ago so people wouldn't be alarmed. Moisture/vegetation creeping out again from left shoulder (looking downstream) of dam face. Fines in soil should be uniform across/up and down dam face, regardless of layered phases of construction. That shouldn't affect uniformity of dam face soil. You shouldn't be able to see 'layers' from construction because they should all have been well buried by face fill when dam was completed. Green bands/spot can ONLY be caused by soil fines being washed out/pushed through dam face. Face surface erosion would produce vertical bands, not horizontal ones. There is significant surface erosion just below wet spot, but this detail wouldn't be very visible from satellite imagery. Nothing interesting/different about latest imagery besides intensity (bright green spot) of vegetation rendering. Prolonged recent rains shouldn't have mattered. Some vegetation always grows on dam face during winter rains. It's the uneven nature of that growth that's a red flag. DWR has continuously claimed awareness of the green spot and dismisses any concern about it. They supposedly sank a monitoring well on the left shoulder uphill of green spot, but never said much about it besides 'natural spring'. Note: the drain curtain inside the middle of the dam should take care of any water intrusion from the shoulder. It extends all the way to either end of the dam, including over/beyond the left shoulder green spot. I guess there's a remote chance that the shoulder's 'natural spring' empties closer to the face of the dam than it does to the core. DWR has no way of knowing what vertical region(s) of the drain curtain may be plugged/compromised, so it seems improbable that they can determine with any certainty that there is no safety concern here. If the dam ever fails on the left shoulder, then they will have a lot of explaining to do (to taxpayers and downstream survivors). Nice to know the largest earth-fill dam in the U.S. has a natural spring saturating its face in a region of uneven settlement. What could possible go wrong? https://twitter.com/_/status/1615880005938028544 https://twitter.com/_/status/1615882637624721409 YO! YOU HAVE BROUGHT THE REAL SHIT HERE..THANK YOU. DAM HAS NATURAL SPRING..GREAT. AND THAT IS THE BEST CASE ANSWER THEY HAVE GOT. DARKER COLOR IS A NUTRIENT SUPPLY OF WATER, RIGHT? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1244321 United States 01/19/2023 03:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82912660 EVAPORATION WONT SAVE IT THIS TIME. IF THERE IS A FAST HOT AN EARLY SPRING WITH SOME MORE SHOWERS...ITZ OVUH. EL BREACH-0!UH Yeah, they built that community of Plumas Lake at the exact spot the levee broke in 1997. Million dollar homes. How soon they forget. ANY CAMERAS ON THE WET SPOT? WERE TWENTY FEET UP IT NOW..PROB. ABOVE IT..RIGHT? NEW DATA UH SHOON. Please don’t disturb the wildlife while you are here. Obviously you are a newbie to the thread and do not recognize the posters who have contributed to it for years now. What exactly is the bit of information that you bring to the table outside of irritation of a typing preference? The fact that your emotional needs want to dominate some of the narrative, I find truly disturbing. Better yet you are camouflaged as an AC who is asserting change to your satisfaction. Just exactly why somebody would walk into a new thread and offend the local inhabitants without offering any reason why your presence should be accepted is devisive and manipulative. That means you have an outside agenda. Just what specifically is your agenda AC? I smell trouble. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82912660 United States 01/19/2023 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed M.E.! THANKS FOR ..PERFECTION. SOME FOLKS JUST FALL IN LOVE WITH.....'THEIR MEMES'...SAD. UH,CAPS ;) 791.88 16445 NEW DATA IN 5 ISH. OUT FLOWS STOPPED TWO HRS AGO. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82912660 United States 01/19/2023 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed M.E.! THANKS FOR ..PERFECTION. SOME FOLKS JUST FALL IN LOVE WITH.....'THEIR MEMES'...SAD. UH,CAPS ;) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82912660 791.88 16445 NEW DATA IN 5 ISH. OUT FLOWS STOPPED TWO HRS AGO. FIRST TIME THEY RAN OUTFLOWS FOR 10 HRS IN UH LONG, LONG TIME! GOT IT UP TO 2100 AND THEN 1900+ AND SHUT IT OFF. THEY 'KNOW'! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80385821 United States 01/19/2023 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Crunch62 Yeah, they built that community of Plumas Lake at the exact spot the levee broke in 1997. Million dollar homes. How soon they forget. ANY CAMERAS ON THE WET SPOT? WERE TWENTY FEET UP IT NOW..PROB. ABOVE IT..RIGHT? NEW DATA UH SHOON. Please don’t disturb the wildlife while you are here. Obviously you are a newbie to the thread and do not recognize the posters who have contributed to it for years now. What exactly is the bit of information that you bring to the table outside of irritation of a typing preference? The fact that your emotional needs want to dominate some of the narrative, I find truly disturbing. Better yet you are camouflaged as an AC who is asserting change to your satisfaction. Just exactly why somebody would walk into a new thread and offend the local inhabitants without offering any reason why your presence should be accepted is devisive and manipulative. That means you have an outside agenda. Just what specifically is your agenda AC? I smell trouble. I'm tired of reading caps jibberish. As long as he continues to post capslock jibberish, I'll keep posting the meme. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1244321 United States 01/19/2023 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed IVE CHECKED BACK AND IT'S BEEN OVUH 15 DAYS SINCE IT WAS BELOW 10K AND THERE WERE ONLY A FEW HOURS AT BEST..SO, I DONT KNOW HOW LONG IT HAS BEEN FURTHER BACK. IT KEEPS GOING UP. CURIOUS.UH Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4784279 :CreepyJapanesePo: Thank you GMS read your messages. |
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