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It's BACK! Cosmic Ray Health Alert: K Index at Zero again 2/26

 
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Bill, Commander Z. and I were talking last night about a lot of different things and this very topic came up... SMH I have been RN'n this for years and it is a precursor to The Kill Shot..
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Sorry to rain on your doom parade, OP, but the K-Index has nothing to do with cosmic rays. It measures disturbances in the magnetic field.

Cosmic rays are blocked from the Earth's surface by the atmosphere. A high rate of cosmic rays can only cause health effects for astronauts or airline flight crews and passengers.

Ground-based monitors can't detect any CR's, only daughter particles resulting from collisions with gas molecules high in the atmosphere.

Here's a few definitions-

K index -A 3-hourly quasi-logarithmic local index of geomagnetic activity relative to an assumed quiet-day curve for the recording site. Range is from 0 (quiet) to 9 (severely disturbed). The K index measures the deviation of the most disturbed component (see geomagnetic elements). Also see Kp.

cosmic ray-An extremely energetic and relativistic charged particle. Galactic Cosmic Rays originate from outside the solar system and the Sun can produce "cosmic rays" during energetic proton events.

neutron monitor-A ground-based detector that counts secondary neutrons generated by processes originating with the impact of atmospheric molecules and atoms by very energetic particles (galactic or solar cosmic rays).

Spaceweather Glossary:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Real Time Neutron Monitors:

[link to www.leif.org]

DOOM OFF for now.
 Quoting: Helios Maximus


First, off, the OP hasn't called for any "DOOM."

Suggesting that the folks who believe they are cosmic
ray "sensitives" should be watchful for the KP Index
showing the BARS at zero for 2 days--is doing a public
service.

Then you say:
Sorry to rain on your doom parade, OP, but the K-Index has nothing to do with cosmic rays. It measures disturbances in the magnetic field.

You need to listen to Suspicious Observers video for
today (there's stuff about the coronal hole being 1,000,000
miles wide--possibly a satellite "record" he says)--and
he explains WHY THE KP INDEX AT ZERO IS BAD FOR THE
HEALTH!

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
Fast-forward to the 1 min mark to have Ben
Davidson's explanation as to why it is a health
alert when the KP Index goes down to below 2.


You did a thorough job of putting up references to
the meanings of things...but maybe you need to PM
Suspicious Observers about the KP Index, so you can
be on the "same page."

Cheers!
O'sCookie
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Bill, Commander Z. and I were talking last night about a lot of different things and this very topic came up... SMH I have been RN'n this for years and it is a precursor to The Kill Shot..
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When?

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Bill, Commander Z. and I were talking last night about a lot of different things and this very topic came up... SMH I have been RN'n this for years and it is a precursor to The Kill Shot..
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Melancholia came out the same time as "Knowing"

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Thank you in advance for 5 stars - very hard to type with sore wrist.

hf
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tell me about it

hiding
If you aint first, youre last.
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Just wish I had a bunker. Won't save them but makes the last days more comfortable.
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I think I have a UTI
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Th waterworks is located too close to the sewer.
FCK the WEF! Keep your hands off my country!
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Sorry to rain on your doom parade, OP, but the K-Index has nothing to do with cosmic rays. It measures disturbances in the magnetic field.

Cosmic rays are blocked from the Earth's surface by the atmosphere. A high rate of cosmic rays can only cause health effects for astronauts or airline flight crews and passengers.

Ground-based monitors can't detect any CR's, only daughter particles resulting from collisions with gas molecules high in the atmosphere.

Here's a few definitions-

K index -A 3-hourly quasi-logarithmic local index of geomagnetic activity relative to an assumed quiet-day curve for the recording site. Range is from 0 (quiet) to 9 (severely disturbed). The K index measures the deviation of the most disturbed component (see geomagnetic elements). Also see Kp.

cosmic ray-An extremely energetic and relativistic charged particle. Galactic Cosmic Rays originate from outside the solar system and the Sun can produce "cosmic rays" during energetic proton events.

neutron monitor-A ground-based detector that counts secondary neutrons generated by processes originating with the impact of atmospheric molecules and atoms by very energetic particles (galactic or solar cosmic rays).

Spaceweather Glossary:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Real Time Neutron Monitors:

[link to www.leif.org]

DOOM OFF for now.
 Quoting: Helios Maximus


And maybe you are wrong.
 Quoting: Otter


He is...Otter.

Ben Davidson's site has loads of NEW RESEARCH
into all kinds of cosmic rays which offer health
risks now. I know that doesn't have anything to do
with the KP-INDEX he's saying isn't a "monitor" for
cosmic rays (it isn't, of course)--but the KP Index
tells us the situation with our Magnetosphere--and
whether or not it can handle in-coming rays. When its
at ZERO cosmic rays penetrate to the surface of the
Earth.

There were even MAINSTREAM NEWS reports during the week
that poor Carrey Fisher had her fatal heart attack in
that airplane (12-2016)--that Fisher may have been exposed
(at the altitude at which her plane was flying) to EXTREME
levels of cosmic rays due to a series of record-breaking
gamma ray bursts previous to and DURING on her flight.
Of course, NOT everyone gets a heart attack from gamma rays or other types of cosmic rays (or there would have been
a whole airplane full of medical emergencies, which there
wasn't)--one has to have certain physical problems to
have such a dramatic reaction. Medical conditions can be
exasserbated by in-coming cosmic rays--but this DOES happen
and eventually the airline companies are going to be
forced to put up ALERTS to elderly people and those
with special health conditions to NOT FLY during
cosmic ray spikes.

Cheers!
O'sCookie

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Just wish I had a bunker. Won't save them but makes the last days more comfortable.
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You do not want to be in a bunker unless you want to get squished like a bug !

My goal is to raid them before that ha ha !
Love to Mother Earth Always
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Revist: Executive Order -- Coordinating Efforts to Prepare the Nation for Space Weather Events

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Just wish I had a bunker. Won't save them but makes the last days more comfortable.
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You do not want to be in a bunker unless you want to get squished like a bug !

My goal is to raid them before that ha ha !
 Quoting: Earth420


I mean - my own personal hole in ground
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Revist: Executive Order -- Coordinating Efforts to Prepare the Nation for Space Weather Events

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hf

There you go!
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Just wish I had a bunker. Won't save them but makes the last days more comfortable.
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You do not want to be in a bunker unless you want to get squished like a bug !

My goal is to raid them before that ha ha !
 Quoting: Earth420


I mean - my own personal hole in ground
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Trenches are the way to go !
Love to Mother Earth Always
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Here's a good link my friends !

[link to iswa.gsfc.nasa.gov]
Love to Mother Earth Always
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Green for you OP. Thanks for alerting the sleeping. Here is the index:

[link to spaceweathernews.com]
"The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty"
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Major storm outside right now. High winds, rain, flooding. Loud booms now also. Heard two in the last hour. Interesting.
"The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty"
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Major storm outside right now. High winds, rain, flooding. Loud booms now also. Heard two in the last hour. Interesting.
 Quoting: Bridge of Sighs


what state?
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What symptoms are you feeling?

Us (all unusual for us):

Could NOT get to sleep last night
Very stiff and hard to walk this morning

Plus I'm detoxing heavy metals (juicing, chelation by suppository, sauna etc) and today have CRIPPLING pain in wrist.
 Quoting: Otter


I just wanted to add a personal item about the
"symptoms" some of us experience from these extreme
cosmic-rays in-coming.

On the 18th of November 2016 we were in the middle
of a very big up-tick in Gamma Ray bursts that I was
tracking since the beginning of October 2016. I was
concerned about this due to the theories about Galactic
Super Waves put forth in the book "Earth Under Fire"
I'd just gotten from Dr. Paul LaViolette. I was watching
specifically for an up-tick in GRBs from constellations
CLOSE TO THE DARK RIFT of the Milky Way (like Scorpio,
Sagittarius, Ophiuchus, Cygnus, Vela and a few others
--all of which were having repeated detections for gamma
ray bursts during that time period. You can check the data
at this thread:
Thread: Up-Date Pg 12--Ophiuchus is Speaking: 13 Gamma Ray Bursts from Constellation(s) at Center of the Milky Way! Wow!

I had this sudden "attack"(11-18-2016)--just as if a light-switch
had been thrown on a light bulb--and hit the floor
in terrible pain. I was taken by ambulance to the E.R.
where I was treated for about 6 hours and then released
with NO official "diagnosis" for what had happened. I have
zero health issues (for which I thank my good Lord) and
am not on medication of any kind. I rarely even take aspirin
--so this was "out of the blue" for me and very strange. The
ONLY thing I can pin-point (not food poisoning, or drugs)
is this up-tick in GRBs. (We live at the 4,000 ft. level
--which would be almost equivalent to being in a commercial jet.)


I checked a few days later, after I recovered and found
that there had be THREE long-duration gamma ray bursts
on record at a space-weather site that I use. I can't
prove 100% that this was at the bottom of what caused my
health emergency--but I will never forget the sensation
that went with this strange health emergency that I was
"near death." It was very alarming. I'm thinking that
long-duration GRBs can act to DISRUPT the nervous system
in some people.

Just thought I would put that out there--since it is
related to your "health alert," Otter--these are very
REAL threats to our health and should be taken seriously.

Cheers!
TheOracle'sCookie

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Did you know that now there is a health monitor system that you can wear on your wrist and will monitor your health. It will even perfomr in ECG, blood pressure, and much more. It's called HELO and no one is talking about it.

HELO - [link to youtu.be (secure)]

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Sorry to rain on your doom parade, OP, but the K-Index has nothing to do with cosmic rays. It measures disturbances in the magnetic field.

Cosmic rays are blocked from the Earth's surface by the atmosphere. A high rate of cosmic rays can only cause health effects for astronauts or airline flight crews and passengers.

Ground-based monitors can't detect any CR's, only daughter particles resulting from collisions with gas molecules high in the atmosphere.

Here's a few definitions-

K index -A 3-hourly quasi-logarithmic local index of geomagnetic activity relative to an assumed quiet-day curve for the recording site. Range is from 0 (quiet) to 9 (severely disturbed). The K index measures the deviation of the most disturbed component (see geomagnetic elements). Also see Kp.

cosmic ray-An extremely energetic and relativistic charged particle. Galactic Cosmic Rays originate from outside the solar system and the Sun can produce "cosmic rays" during energetic proton events.

neutron monitor-A ground-based detector that counts secondary neutrons generated by processes originating with the impact of atmospheric molecules and atoms by very energetic particles (galactic or solar cosmic rays).

Spaceweather Glossary:
[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]

Real Time Neutron Monitors:

[link to www.leif.org]

DOOM OFF for now.
 Quoting: Helios Maximus


First, off, the OP hasn't called for any "DOOM."

Suggesting that the folks who believe they are cosmic
ray "sensitives" should be watchful for the KP Index
showing the BARS at zero for 2 days--is doing a public
service.

Then you say:
Sorry to rain on your doom parade, OP, but the K-Index has nothing to do with cosmic rays. It measures disturbances in the magnetic field.

You need to listen to Suspicious Observers video for
today (there's stuff about the coronal hole being 1,000,000
miles wide--possibly a satellite "record" he says)--and
he explains WHY THE KP INDEX AT ZERO IS BAD FOR THE
HEALTH!

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
FairUSE
Fast-forward to the 1 min mark to have Ben
Davidson's explanation as to why it is a health
alert when the KP Index goes down to below 2.


You did a thorough job of putting up references to
the meanings of things...but maybe you need to PM
Suspicious Observers about the KP Index, so you can
be on the "same page."

Cheers!
O'sCookie
 Quoting: TheOracle'sCookie


Suspicious Observers is doom-mongering pseudo-science garbage for idiot suckers who send him money.

(((Ben Davidson))) is a fraud and a shylock to boot. Gotta give him credit for marketing his bullshit to the masses tho. He's a clever dude to turn DOOM into a high-paying industry pedalling useless disinformation. Ben's a media-meister with no scientific background.

SUSPICIOUS OBSERVERS= FAKE SPACE NEWS
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Probably the ONLY thing Obama signed that was good for America.

We may not see another Carrington Event for a 100 years but the power grid and other vital systems should be hardened because eventually there will be a solar super-flare.

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Father Sun is freaking awesome !
Love to Mother Earth Always
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Thank you in advance for 5 stars - very hard to type with sore wrist.

hf
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Try super antioxidant like Moringa Oleifera, wrist/bone/chronic pain will lessen or vanish.
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LOUD ear ringing

Pain in both wrists, but I play a lot of guitar & piano
Everything is Energy
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Had very little sleep the last few nights. Blood pressure is high and I can't bring it down. My tinnitus is binaural and there is a high (around 12Khz) and medium (around 8Khz)pitch.

My Bp is usually slightly elevated now its between 90 - 100 mmHg...
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Wow this might have explained why I couldn't sleep a wink last night and had bowel pains out of no where... wtf
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Green for you OP. Thanks for alerting the sleeping. Here is the index:

[link to spaceweathernews.com]
 Quoting: Bridge of Sighs


Wow! Thanks Bridge! I didn't know that there was
an outline like this on spaceweather.com--very
interesting.

*(I think my E.R. visit during those 3 gamma ray burst
events on 11-17-2016 thru 11-19-2016 was some kind of
heart thing--they never did give me a diagnosis and
it just disappeared as fast as it showed up. Very strange
stuff!) I still have the $6,000 medical bill to pay
for my 6 hours in the E.R, tho!! No insurance.

Cheers!
O'sCookie

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I feel really strong...kinda green...clothes are too small

Am able to bend metal at will.

Hmmmmm





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