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Could this be a seriously real way to EXIT THE MATRIX?

 
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...just as within a dream, the “stuff” of this world is inseparable from the mind of the dreamer, which is us.

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...to see that the world doesn’t exist as an object out there, combined with seeing that we don’t exist as an objective subject in here, is the doorway to the realization of the dreamlike nature of reality, which is the very realization that quantum physics is ultimately revealing to us.

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Quantum physics is linking the subjective and objective domains into a higher, more coherent synthesis.

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In Schrödinger’s words, “In perception and observation, subject and object” are “inextricably interwoven,” their influence being unavoidably “mutual,” their relationship a true “inter-action.”

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It is not just that we affect the universe through our act of observing it; we ourselves are reciprocally affected. To quote Wheeler, “Anything that affects something else must, in turn, be affected by that something else.”To say this differently, we can’t touch without being touched.

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In our ordinary state of consciousness, we have developed a chronic, habitual, and unconscious pattern of actively erecting and maintaining a seeming boundary between subject and object that does not actually exist.

We don’t have to get rid of the barrier between the subject and object because, as Schrödinger reminds us, this barrier is illusory; not only that, we ourselves are creating and then falling for this illusion. In this process we are tricking ourselves out of our own mind.


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We are simply asked to “see through” and recognize the nature of our situation in which the observer is the observed. We are invited to recognize ourselves in what is being observed.

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We are simply asked to “see through” and recognize the nature of our situation in which the observer is the observed. We are invited to recognize ourselves in what is being observed.

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Schrödinger comments, “The world is given to me only once, not one existing and one perceived. Subject and object are only one. The barrier between them cannot be said to have broken down as a result of recent experience in the physical sciences, for this barrier does not exist.”

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If we step into a deep enough point of view, we, in our act of observation, are in a sense like that which we observe. Atoms are made out of and are crystallizations of the very awareness that is observing them.

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Instead of falling prey to Whitehead’s fallacy of misplaced concreteness and superimposing an imaginary solidity onto a fluid universe that is continuously in flux, which will conjure up the universe to simply reflect back to us this seeming concreteness, we can allow the universe to reveal and glorify its dreamlike, synchronistic nature.

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The more we see the dreamlike nature of the universe, the more dreamlike the universe will reveal itself to be. This is a creative and creativity-generating feedback loop, the activation of which brings forth what can be thought of as a higher technology of mind.

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The more I deepen my research into quantum physics, the more indistinguishable it becomes from a spiritual path.

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In discovering that there is no objective world out there and no objective subject in here, quantum physics is discovering the medicine or fundamental cure for the psychospiritual illness that ails our species. In so doing, quantum physics is promoting itself to the ranks of a spiritual wisdom tradition.

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“Everything that we can directly observe of the physical world happens inside our heads, and consists of mental events. . . . The stuff of the world may be called physical or mental or both or neither as we please; in fact the words serve no purpose.”

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Similar to how a rainbow doesn’t ultimately exist without a consciousness that is experiencing it, we are the other half of the equation that brings a Beethoven symphony—not to mention the universe—to life.

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Our sensory qualia are often mistaken as being perceptions of a real, objective, independently existing world “out there.”

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We must remember that our experience of the world is brought to us through our five senses and then neurologically remixed within our minds into a convincing experience of a seemingly solid, external, and material world.

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Upon closer inspection, in actual fact all we have is the mysterious immediacy of our firsthand phenomenological experience; the idea of a real physical external world is an unwarranted presumption that we are overlaying onto our direct experience of qualia.

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Imagine a game created by immortal spiritual beings.
Weakness, flesh, last one left in the pit is the winner?
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When carefully contemplated, it becomes obvious that the appearance of a solid, external world arises within our awareness; it is not nearly as external as we tend to think.

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Schrödinger writes that “the stuff from which our world picture is built is yielded exclusively from the sense organs as organs of the mind, so that every man’s world picture is and always remains a construct of his mind and cannot be proved to have any other existence.

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Instead of thinking that the physical world is primary and our psyche is derivative from the “real” physical world, Jung points out, “It is an almost absurd prejudice to suppose that existence can only be physical. As a matter of fact, the only form of existence of which we have immediate knowledge is psychic. We might well say, on the contrary, that physical existence is a mere inference, since we know of matter only in so far as we perceive psychic images mediated by the senses.”

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Since we are never able to describe anything “as it is” but only “as it appears to our minds,” we can never have a pure physics, but only “neuro-physics”—i.e., physics as known only through the mediation of the human nervous system.

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According to quantum theory, the greenness of grass, the hardness of stones, the coldness of snow, in fact the entire “outside world,” does not exist “out there,” independently of and separate from ourselves, but rather exists nowhere except within our own minds.

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Wheeler writes in his journal, “Aren’t we mistaken in making this separation between ‘the universe’ and ‘life and mind’?” In other words, is our thinking that the universe is separate from our mind a grave error? In an interview in which he was asked about this idea, Wheeler responded with his typical humility, “I’m one of the most baffled men in the world on this subject.”

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There is not one universe that exists and another one that is perceived; the way our universe exists is inextricably linked and inseparable from how it is perceived.

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Our knowledge of the world begins not with matter but with perceptions.

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Everything we know and can ever know about the universe is conveyed to us via our perceptions. Perception does not consist of passive reception of and reaction to signals from the outside world, but is an active filtering and interpretation of the world’s signals, which is to say perception is a creative transaction with the world.

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