Could this be a seriously real way to EXIT THE MATRIX? | |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/07/2017 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is unreal does not exist. Unreal here refers to dualistic existence (characterized by pairs of opposites: light/dark, hot/cold, rich/poor, good/bad.) If you think about it, everything in duality is constantly changing and morphing. If it's always changing, then you can't reasonably say it's real. What is real never ceases to exist. What is real is something that never changes - something that continuously endures. Such is the nature of Awareness. In our own experience, Awareness is something we can all agree has been 'running' 24/7 in the background as far back as we can remember. This knowledge will set you free. If freedom is something we're looking for, then where will we look for it? In something that's always changing or in something that's steady and constant like Awareness? |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/07/2017 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In that dark daylight world in which all beings sleep, the wise person who has mastered the senses, is awake. Just as water that flows into an ocean leaves the ocean unchanged, objects and circumstances arising in the mind of a Self realized person leave it unchanged. On the other hand, the desirer of objects is never peaceful. The one who sees through the belief of 'me' and 'mine' moves through life without longing. Such a person is peaceful and steady in the Self. The Self realized are not deluded by appearances. Bhagavad Gita |
LilMiss
User ID: 38599001 United States 03/07/2017 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It all depends. It's easier to be detached if you understand that life is truly what happens, as they say: 'while we're busy making plans'. In other words, the more we think we're in control, the harder it is to be detached. Much has been said about the widom of living in the now. Question: how easy is it to live in the now - to breathe in the fullness of this moment, if i'm trying to control it? I agree with you fully. The attachments I struggle with are people, and I certainly have no control over that/them. Have to remember to get out of my own way sometimes. *giggles* Lived and let live. |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/09/2017 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is the experiencing element that runs throughout all experience. It can never be known as an object because it is the knower of all apparent objects. However, it never ceases to know itself. Rupert Spira |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71843037 United States 03/10/2017 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Infinity mirror. Think games like Sim City etc, our own creation is well under way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49716965 As to the perceived reality we are in right now - "Think of not what you see but what it took to produce what you see" Mandelbrot Fractal. Self. Similarity. Was watching a show on earthquakes and Troy. Interviewer was in the turkish seismic monitoring center and during the visit a quake lit up near Troy. The quake's signature on the screen was of the Mandelbrot set. Very distinct. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74197478 United States 03/10/2017 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Over the last couple years I have also been exploring Vedanta. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73803211 My favorite book on the subject so far is 'I Am That' by Nisargadatta Maharaj What book were you recommending? Your link does not work. I like anything by Leo Hartong. "Awakening To The Dream" is my favorite. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74197478 United States 03/10/2017 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "When I was 4 years old, I was walking down the street and I found myself, saying out loud, "I'm really here! I'm really HERE!!" Why I thought that was so profound, I don't know. But, suddenly I experienced Life as a Dream, a Lucid Dream, and I was the Dreamer. It was like I used to be an actor on a stage lost in the part, to being in the audience. I thought about telling my parents but I knew it would be a waste of time. They thought Life was REAL." -- My first experience of Truth Non-Dual joke: "Life's all fun and games until someone loses an 'I'." |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/10/2017 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Enlightenment is making the thought “I am Awareness” hard and fast in the Intellect. Once this knowledge operates through the Intellect without any misconceptions, suffering based on limited ideas about yourself will end. (exploringvedanta.com) |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/10/2017 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing new needs to be added to experience for us to become aware that our self is always being and knowing itself alone, not always in time but eternally now. Knowing or experiencing is its nature. Knowing or experiencing is not what it does; it is what it is. Simply being itself is the knowing of itself. And as our self is ever-present, it is always knowing itself. It knows nothing other than itself. Rupert Spira |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/11/2017 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Our self cannot fail to know itself, just as the sun cannot fail to illumine itself. It is only a thought that imagines that our self is not known and that something else – like a body, mind or world – is known. With this thought alone, our self seems to contract inside the body and mind, and objects, others and the world seem to be projected outside. As a result, intimacy is veiled, love is lost and seeking begins. Rupert Spira |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/11/2017 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Standing outside in the sunlight, we see objects around us illumined by the sun. In the same way, the objects we see with the senses are illumined by ever shining, ever present Awareness. In other words, the indisputable fact of continuous non-stop Awareness is what makes possible the 24/7 IMAX 3D blockbuster we call ‘life’. |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/11/2017 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As we take our stand knowingly as aware Presence, the mind, body and world recede into the background. When the presence and primacy of our Self has been established, objects come close again, closer than close. They dissolve into our Self and reveal themselves as none other than the shape that our Self is taking from moment to moment. In fact, to know an apparent object of the mind, body or world, that apparent object has to dissolve into our Self, Awareness. For anything to be known, its apparent ‘thingness’ must dissolve in Awareness and become pure knowing. Rupert Spira |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/11/2017 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is it that recognises Aware Presence? Only that which is aware and present could do so. In that simple recognition, Aware Presence or Awareness knows itself and, by the same token, is realised to be always only knowing itself. When we return to our self in this way, the apparent person and the apparent world dissolve, leaving only the innocence and intimacy of experience, which is known as peace, happiness or love. Rupert Spira - Presence, Volume II: The Intimacy of All Experience: 2 |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/12/2017 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What happens to a strong desire when you actually connect with it? It disappears! Why? Because the object is present. A great feeling of love and happiness floods over you. You assume that the joy is coming from the object and immediately become attached to it. But your assumption is incorrect. What happens is that when you finally connect with the object of your desire that desire disappears, and the love that is the nature of the self immediately floods the mind. So the object is not the source of the feeling; it is just a catalyst that releases your inbuilt joy. The only reasonable conclusion I can draw leads me to ask: if happiness/love is my nature, why am I looking for it in objects? James Swartz: The Essence of Enlightenment: Vedanta, The Science of Consciousness |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/12/2017 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | James Swartz: The Essence of Enlightenment: Vedanta, The Science of Consciousness |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/13/2017 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Objects that the senses seem to report— which is the basis of our knowledge of them— have no existence apart from me, the witnessing awareness. If the objects exist only as sensations and sensations exist only as me, the joy that is apparently caused by contact with objects is coming only from me. If we think one step further, it will become clear that I cannot separate the happiness I feel from me, the subject. Just as a wave is never separate from the ocean in which it “waves,” the joy that waves up when I get what I want is just me, witnessing awareness. James Swartz: The Essence of Enlightenment: Vedanta, The Science of Consciousness |
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(OP) General Discussion User ID: 69449127 United States 03/14/2017 04:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Objects are not away from us in a world “out there.” They are experienced and known “in” us. If we take our inquiry a bit further, we discover that reality is non-dual and that we cannot depend on objects because they are us. If our analysis is true— and it is— then the objects we experience are not separate from the consciousness that makes the experience of them possible. James Swartz: The Essence of Enlightenment: Vedanta, The Science of Consciousness |