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Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX

 
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Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Do NOT buy any gold from Prospector's Gold & Gems. They are making melted down 90% silver bars and gold-plating them and selling them as gold bars!
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I would have thought APMEX would be using an x-ray fluorescence spectrometer to spot this kind of garbage
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Just imagine what's inside those gold bars in Ft Knox and The Fed Reserve Bank of NY
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
this is a pretty damning charge to make
We need evidence if we are going to take you seriously.
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02/18/2017 10:49 AM
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
[link to www.sigmametalytics.com]

My 1 oz bars all tested .999+. My 2 oz Skull & Bones bar tested negative for gold, but when the analyzer was calibrated for pre-1900 US coin 90% silver the bar tested positive. The fucks at Prospector's Gold and Gems are gold-plating their 2 oz silver bars and selling them as gold.

[link to prospectorsgoldandgems.com]


[link to www.apmex.com]
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This is really fucked up. Wow. Just imagine all the people with fake gold out there
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Who have no idea
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
i heard most of the gold supply throughout the world is filled with TUNGSTEN.
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Big bars definitely can be. Tungsten is right next to gold on the periodic table and the density is almost the same. I would never buy a large bar. Turns out you can't even trust a 2 oz bar from APMEX
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Wouldn't be investing in gold unless you have a metal analyzer of some sort that checks the inside
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02/18/2017 11:08 AM
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Op... put it on pre-1900's silver and put a clad Eisenhower on the machine.

laugh

Edit: the machine will say its silver when it is not..

So the machine is not perfect and should not be used as your only means of testing

Last Edited by Thisismyusername on 02/18/2017 11:13 AM
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
I would have thought APMEX would be using an x-ray fluorescence spectrometer to spot this kind of garbage
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Make a video of your tests or I call bsflag

And I hope they sue your stupid ass.
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
am willing to believe you, but I need actual evidence.

Like make a video of the entire testing process and be sure to show the bars in question. If you could provide receipts also that would be golden. (pun intended)
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
There's probably millions, maybe billions of dollars worth of possibly fake gold out there in being held in investor vaults for 401 k and ira s. That is FUCKED UP
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02/18/2017 11:14 AM
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Wouldn't be investing in gold unless you have a metal analyzer of some sort that checks the inside
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hesright
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Make a video of your tests or I call bsflag

And I hope they sue your stupid ass.
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You're calling me a stupid ass? Can you analyze any precious metal you have? It's just a fact, jack. Talk to the people that make the Precious Metal Analyzer at Sigma Metalytics.

The thing uses a magnetic field to check the metal conductivity. Silver bars that are .999+ and gold bars that were .999+ all tested normal. However, the 2 oz bar made by Prospector's Gold & Gems tested negative for gold and positive for 90% silver
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
But feel free to go buy one of those 2 oz bars. Who am I but a stupid ass?
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02/18/2017 11:23 AM
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Quite an eye-opener. Things are never as they seem it seems
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02/18/2017 11:27 AM
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
a simple, way to tell if a coin or bar is fake is by weight...
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02/18/2017 11:29 AM
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Bah, I think you're dosing, silver has a density of 10.49 g/cm^3 and gold has a density of 19.30 g/cm^2

Or, silver is 1/2 as dense as gold so it would never work, just weigh the bars and check their volume.

It's possible it's tungsten that has a density of 19.25 g/cm^3
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02/18/2017 11:32 AM
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Bah, I think you're dosing, silver has a density of 10.49 g/cm^3 and gold has a density of 19.30 g/cm^2

Or, silver is 1/2 as dense as gold so it would never work, just weigh the bars and check their volume.

It's possible it's tungsten that has a density of 19.25 g/cm^3
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Okay, Archimedes. I'll let you displace some water with your gold pieces and precisely calculate the volume so you can measure the density.
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Bah, I think you're dosing, silver has a density of 10.49 g/cm^3 and gold has a density of 19.30 g/cm^2

Or, silver is 1/2 as dense as gold so it would never work, just weigh the bars and check their volume.

It's possible it's tungsten that has a density of 19.25 g/cm^3
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Okay, Archimedes. I'll let you displace some water with your gold pieces and precisely calculate the volume so you can measure the density.
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actually it isn't hard to do....
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
you make an accusation and have provided no proofs

This is not helpful at all. It makes you look like the boy who called wolf. If you are telling the truth then a simple video with the questionable metal being tested on film would settle any of our doubts.
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Bah, I think you're dosing, silver has a density of 10.49 g/cm^3 and gold has a density of 19.30 g/cm^2

Or, silver is 1/2 as dense as gold so it would never work, just weigh the bars and check their volume.

It's possible it's tungsten that has a density of 19.25 g/cm^3
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30194358



Okay, Archimedes. I'll let you displace some water with your gold pieces and precisely calculate the volume so you can measure the density.
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Geez with a bar you can just use a micrometer, measure the dimensions and multiply to find the volume, then the mass, then weight it with a gram scale accurate to 1/100th a gram.

You do basic science bro?
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Yes it is. You work in a quantitative lab? Can you measure microliters? Scale accurate to 3 decimal places?
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
LOL. I'm sending the bars back to APMEX. I might send one for x-ray fluorescent spectroscopy which will tell me exactly what alloy they have in this bar
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Just sharing some info. Don't listen. I'm sure you're very good at that
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
Size and weight...no other metal has the desity(wieght x size) of gold.
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Re: Holy SHIT! My new Sigma Metalytic Precious Metal Verifier helped me spot counterfeit gold bars I bought from APMEX
But feel free to go buy one of those 2 oz bars. Who am I but a stupid ass?
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Take a pic of your gold bar on the versifier. You only posted a stock photo of the machine. AMPEX can sue you for such claims.
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Yes it is. You work in a quantitative lab? Can you measure microliters? Scale accurate to 3 decimal places?
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Don't you have a micrometer Bill Nye?

1 Gold Eagle:
Weight = 33.931 grams
Diameter = 1.287"
Thickness = 0.113"

[link to www.usmint.gov (secure)]

If you can't get the specs, don't buy the coin.





GLP