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Exoplanets, fossils that are billions of years old, extraterrestrial water - how can anyone still think that life only exists on Earth?

 
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Exoplanets, fossils that are billions of years old, extraterrestrial water - how can anyone still think that life only exists on Earth?
Over 3,500 exoplanets have been discovered so far, many of them within the habitable zones of star systems. There are over a dozen methods that have proved successful for discovering a new planet or confirming an already discovered planet, and a long list of independent agencies and individuals that corroborate the discoveries.

The recent discovery of the Earth's oldest fossils indicates that life began on this planet under very harsh conditions, shortly after the planet's formation. The conditions on Earth 4.5 billion years ago closely resembled the conditions on early Mars and Venus, and likely resembles the conditions on various exoplanets throughout the universe.

Extraterrestrial water, (liquid water, ice and vapor) and/or the evidence of past abundance of liquid water are found on Mars, Europa, Enceladus, Ganemede, Ceres, Venus, our Moon, and inside comets.

With all of this verifiable knowledge available to anyone with access to modern technology, how is it possible that so many people continue to believe that life is exclusive to our planet?
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Tis vain to do with much what can be done with little. Problem is organics are everywhere.

Take a look around, I'm not betting against life.
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Re: Exoplanets, fossils that are billions of years old, extraterrestrial water - how can anyone still think that life only exists on Earth?
Based on observations from the Hubble Space Telescope, there are between 125 and 250 billion galaxies in the observable universe. It is estimated that at least ten percent of all Sun-like stars have a system of planets, i.e. there are 6.25×1018 stars with planets orbiting them in the observable universe. Even if it is assumed that only one out of a billion of these stars has planets supporting life, there would be some 6.25 billion life-supporting planetary systems in the observable universe.

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Over 3,500 exoplanets have been discovered so far, many of them within the habitable zones of star systems. There are over a dozen methods that have proved successful for discovering a new planet or confirming an already discovered planet, and a long list of independent agencies and individuals that corroborate the discoveries.

The recent discovery of the Earth's oldest fossils indicates that life began on this planet under very harsh conditions, shortly after the planet's formation. The conditions on Earth 4.5 billion years ago closely resembled the conditions on early Mars and Venus, and likely resembles the conditions on various exoplanets throughout the universe.

Extraterrestrial water, (liquid water, ice and vapor) and/or the evidence of past abundance of liquid water are found on Mars, Europa, Enceladus, Ganemede, Ceres, Venus, our Moon, and inside comets.

With all of this verifiable knowledge available to anyone with access to modern technology, how is it possible that so many people continue to believe that life is exclusive to our planet?
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for the same reason that many people continue to believe other things which seem completely asinine to you. some people pick and choose which facts the wish to believe. it helps to keep them feeling comfortable
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We aren't talking about an isolated data point - we are talking about wide-spread, in-depth research that is easily corroborated. Why would you choose to ignore facts?
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We aren't talking about an isolated data point - we are talking about wide-spread, in-depth research that is easily corroborated. Why would you choose to ignore facts?
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You do realize that up until 2014, scientist theorized earth's water came from asteroids/comets and that they were completely wrong?

....and they have no idea where earths water came from.

So, to even list, habitable zones in your equation, is quite the imagination.
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We aren't talking about an isolated data point - we are talking about wide-spread, in-depth research that is easily corroborated. Why would you choose to ignore facts?
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You do realize that up until 2014, scientist theorized earth's water came from asteroids/comets and that they were completely wrong?

....and they have no idea where earths water came from.

So, to even list, habitable zones in your equation, is quite the imagination.
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Scientist have lots of ideas where water came from. That's why they conduct on-going research - to learn which theories evidence supports, and which ones it refutes. There is strong direct and indirect evidence that supports the fact that both asteroids and comets contain water. No knowledgeable person in this day and age would refute that. Meteorites containing water have hit the earth, so at least some of the water on Earth did come from that source. Scientists were not "completely wrong", as you exaggerated. New theories suggest that Earth (and indeed, other planets) were not necessarily formed as hot, molten spheres as earlier believed. If that is true, then it is likely that Earth's water has been here since the formation of the planet, just as it is likely that water forms in the formation of all planets that formed similarly.
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Re: Exoplanets, fossils that are billions of years old, extraterrestrial water - how can anyone still think that life only exists on Earth?
Over 3,500 exoplanets have been discovered so far, many of them within the habitable zones of star systems. There are over a dozen methods that have proved successful for discovering a new planet or confirming an already discovered planet, and a long list of independent agencies and individuals that corroborate the discoveries.

The recent discovery of the Earth's oldest fossils indicates that life began on this planet under very harsh conditions, shortly after the planet's formation. The conditions on Earth 4.5 billion years ago closely resembled the conditions on early Mars and Venus, and likely resembles the conditions on various exoplanets throughout the universe.

Extraterrestrial water, (liquid water, ice and vapor) and/or the evidence of past abundance of liquid water are found on Mars, Europa, Enceladus, Ganemede, Ceres, Venus, our Moon, and inside comets.

With all of this verifiable knowledge available to anyone with access to modern technology, how is it possible that so many people continue to believe that life is exclusive to our planet?
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who's facts and who is cross-checking said facts. i still haven't heard a fact about how it is possible to penetrate the Van Allen Radiation Belts...with a tin can designed in 1960s tech...yet we can confirm based on Kunrick's 2001 that space flight can be filmed without going to space.
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We aren't talking about an isolated data point - we are talking about wide-spread, in-depth research that is easily corroborated. Why would you choose to ignore facts?
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You do realize that up until 2014, scientist theorized earth's water came from asteroids/comets and that they were completely wrong?

....and they have no idea where earths water came from.

So, to even list, habitable zones in your equation, is quite the imagination.
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Scientist have lots of ideas where water came from. That's why they conduct on-going research - to learn which theories evidence supports, and which ones it refutes. There is strong direct and indirect evidence that supports the fact that both asteroids and comets contain water. No knowledgeable person in this day and age would refute that. Meteorites containing water have hit the earth, so at least some of the water on Earth did come from that source. Scientists were not "completely wrong", as you exaggerated. New theories suggest that Earth (and indeed, other planets) were not necessarily formed as hot, molten spheres as earlier believed. If that is true, then it is likely that Earth's water has been here since the formation of the planet, just as it is likely that water forms in the formation of all planets that formed similarly.
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If any scientist actually gets the top of the mountain (what he's trying to achieve), he stands in awe...of God. They were completely wrong for 3000 years.

....and you are wasting resources with false ideology.
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Re: Exoplanets, fossils that are billions of years old, extraterrestrial water - how can anyone still think that life only exists on Earth?
Over 3,500 exoplanets have been discovered so far, many of them within the habitable zones of star systems. There are over a dozen methods that have proved successful for discovering a new planet or confirming an already discovered planet, and a long list of independent agencies and individuals that corroborate the discoveries.

The recent discovery of the Earth's oldest fossils indicates that life began on this planet under very harsh conditions, shortly after the planet's formation. The conditions on Earth 4.5 billion years ago closely resembled the conditions on early Mars and Venus, and likely resembles the conditions on various exoplanets throughout the universe.

Extraterrestrial water, (liquid water, ice and vapor) and/or the evidence of past abundance of liquid water are found on Mars, Europa, Enceladus, Ganemede, Ceres, Venus, our Moon, and inside comets.

With all of this verifiable knowledge available to anyone with access to modern technology, how is it possible that so many people continue to believe that life is exclusive to our planet?
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and if there are so many planets and so much life in the universe: WHERE IS EVERY BODY?

where are they all? where is the communication? the visitation? the trade and commerce? the transport ships? the life?

truth appears to be NO ONE except a very few can actually verify NASA's script.
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Over 3,500 exoplanets have been discovered so far, many of them within the habitable zones of star systems. There are over a dozen methods that have proved successful for discovering a new planet or confirming an already discovered planet, and a long list of independent agencies and individuals that corroborate the discoveries.

The recent discovery of the Earth's oldest fossils indicates that life began on this planet under very harsh conditions, shortly after the planet's formation. The conditions on Earth 4.5 billion years ago closely resembled the conditions on early Mars and Venus, and likely resembles the conditions on various exoplanets throughout the universe.

Extraterrestrial water, (liquid water, ice and vapor) and/or the evidence of past abundance of liquid water are found on Mars, Europa, Enceladus, Ganemede, Ceres, Venus, our Moon, and inside comets.

With all of this verifiable knowledge available to anyone with access to modern technology, how is it possible that so many people continue to believe that life is exclusive to our planet?
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who's facts and who is cross-checking said facts. i still haven't heard a fact about how it is possible to penetrate the Van Allen Radiation Belts...with a tin can designed in 1960s tech...yet we can confirm based on Kunrick's 2001 that space flight can be filmed without going to space.
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Here's a short list of the active exoplanet search projects to get you started:

Anglo-Australian Planet Search (AAPS)
Automated Planet Finder (APF) based at the Lick Observatory (also known as the Rocky Planet Finder)
Carl Sagan Institute
CORALIE spectrograph based at Leonhard Euler Telescope
East-Asian Planet Search Network (EAPSNET)
ELODIE
EPICS based at the E-ELT
ESPRESSO based at the VLT
EXPRES based at the Discovery Channel Telescope
FINDS Exo-Earths based at the 3m telescope at Lick Observatory
Gemini Planet Imager (GPI)
Geneva Extrasolar Planet Search
High Accuracy Radial Velocity Planet Searcher (HARPS)
HARPS-N
HATNet and HATSouth Projects (HAT)
HEK
HiCIAO
High Resolution Echelle Spectrometer (HIRES)based at the W. M. Keck Observatory
KELT
Lick–Carnegie Exoplanet Survey (LCES)
Magellan Planet Search Program
MARVELS
MEarth Project
Microlensing Follow-Up Network (MicroFUN)
Microlensing Observations in Astrophysics MOA)
Micro-arcsecond University of Sydney Companion Astrometry (MUSCA) - -
MINiature Exoplanet Radial Velocity Array(MINERVA)
N2K Consortium
NASA-UC Eta-Earth
New Mexico Exoplanet Spectroscopic Survey Instrument (NESSI)
Next-Generation Transit Survey (NGTS) at Paranal, since 2015
Okayama Planet Search Program (OPSP)
Optical Gravitational Lensing Experiment (OGLE)
Palomar High-precision Astrometric Search for Exoplanet Systems (PHASES)
PlanetPol
PlanetQuest
PRL Advanced Radial-velocity All-sky Search (PARAS)
Project 1640
Search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI)
SOPHIE échelle spectrograph
Spectro-Polarimetric High-Contrast Exoplanet Research (SPHERE)
SPECULOOS - -
Strategic Explorations of Exoplanets and Disks with Subaru (SEEDS)
Systemic an amateur search project
Trans-Atlantic Exoplanet Survey (TrES)
XO Telescope (XO)
ZIMPOL/CHEOPS subsystem of the VLT-SPHERE instrument, based at the VLT[14]
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We aren't talking about an isolated data point - we are talking about wide-spread, in-depth research that is easily corroborated. Why would you choose to ignore facts?
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You do realize that up until 2014, scientist theorized earth's water came from asteroids/comets and that they were completely wrong?

....and they have no idea where earths water came from.

So, to even list, habitable zones in your equation, is quite the imagination.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71632887


Scientist have lots of ideas where water came from. That's why they conduct on-going research - to learn which theories evidence supports, and which ones it refutes. There is strong direct and indirect evidence that supports the fact that both asteroids and comets contain water. No knowledgeable person in this day and age would refute that. Meteorites containing water have hit the earth, so at least some of the water on Earth did come from that source. Scientists were not "completely wrong", as you exaggerated. New theories suggest that Earth (and indeed, other planets) were not necessarily formed as hot, molten spheres as earlier believed. If that is true, then it is likely that Earth's water has been here since the formation of the planet, just as it is likely that water forms in the formation of all planets that formed similarly.
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If any scientist actually gets the top of the mountain (what he's trying to achieve), he stands in awe...of God. They were completely wrong for 3000 years.

....and you are wasting resources with false ideology.
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Who was completely wrong about what?
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You do realize that up until 2014, scientist theorized earth's water came from asteroids/comets and that they were completely wrong?

....and they have no idea where earths water came from.

So, to even list, habitable zones in your equation, is quite the imagination.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71632887


Scientist have lots of ideas where water came from. That's why they conduct on-going research - to learn which theories evidence supports, and which ones it refutes. There is strong direct and indirect evidence that supports the fact that both asteroids and comets contain water. No knowledgeable person in this day and age would refute that. Meteorites containing water have hit the earth, so at least some of the water on Earth did come from that source. Scientists were not "completely wrong", as you exaggerated. New theories suggest that Earth (and indeed, other planets) were not necessarily formed as hot, molten spheres as earlier believed. If that is true, then it is likely that Earth's water has been here since the formation of the planet, just as it is likely that water forms in the formation of all planets that formed similarly.
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If any scientist actually gets the top of the mountain (what he's trying to achieve), he stands in awe...of God. They were completely wrong for 3000 years.

....and you are wasting resources with false ideology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71632887


Who was completely wrong about what?
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The water cycle is a creation of God. It was explained in Genesis orally spoken for over 3000 years. The asteroid/meteorite theory was wrong for over 3000 years. There is absolutely zero evidence of a "habitable zone". It's a complete waste of resources to look for planets without the instruments necessary to know what there composition is or to visibly see them.

Carbon dating doesn't work past a few thousand years and anything with carbon in it, would mean it's not very old.

What I'm stating, is that the greatest scientist, were all Christians and we didn't have or need massive debt or create false ideology like "habitable zones" to fund it.
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Scientist have lots of ideas where water came from. That's why they conduct on-going research - to learn which theories evidence supports, and which ones it refutes. There is strong direct and indirect evidence that supports the fact that both asteroids and comets contain water. No knowledgeable person in this day and age would refute that. Meteorites containing water have hit the earth, so at least some of the water on Earth did come from that source. Scientists were not "completely wrong", as you exaggerated. New theories suggest that Earth (and indeed, other planets) were not necessarily formed as hot, molten spheres as earlier believed. If that is true, then it is likely that Earth's water has been here since the formation of the planet, just as it is likely that water forms in the formation of all planets that formed similarly.
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If any scientist actually gets the top of the mountain (what he's trying to achieve), he stands in awe...of God. They were completely wrong for 3000 years.

....and you are wasting resources with false ideology.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71632887


Who was completely wrong about what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73975191


The water cycle is a creation of God. It was explained in Genesis orally spoken for over 3000 years. The asteroid/meteorite theory was wrong for over 3000 years. There is absolutely zero evidence of a "habitable zone". It's a complete waste of resources to look for planets without the instruments necessary to know what there composition is or to visibly see them.

Carbon dating doesn't work past a few thousand years and anything with carbon in it, would mean it's not very old.

What I'm stating, is that the greatest scientist, were all Christians and we didn't have or need massive debt or create false ideology like "habitable zones" to fund it.
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The fact of the matter is that science, is now fundamentally flawed, in that it is mostly political motivated or government funded, and is outside of the scientific method (a method of study) by Sir Francis Bacon (a christian). Your post was almost entirely outside of rational reasoning.
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Over 3,500 exoplanets have been discovered so far, many of them within the habitable zones of star systems. There are over a dozen methods that have proved successful for discovering a new planet or confirming an already discovered planet, and a long list of independent agencies and individuals that corroborate the discoveries.

The recent discovery of the Earth's oldest fossils indicates that life began on this planet under very harsh conditions, shortly after the planet's formation. .....

With all of this verifiable knowledge available to anyone with access to modern technology, how is it possible that so many people continue to believe that life is exclusive to our planet?
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who's facts and who is cross-checking said facts. i still haven't heard a fact about how it is possible to penetrate the Van Allen Radiation Belts...with a tin can designed in 1960s tech...yet we can confirm based on Kunrick's 2001 that space flight can be filmed without going to space.
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Here's a short list of the active exoplanet search projects to get you started:

Anglo-Australian Planet Search (AAPS)
Automated Planet Finder (APF) based at the Lick Observatory (also known as the Rocky Planet Finder)
Carl Sagan Institute
CORALIE spectrograph based at Leonhard Euler Telescope
East-Asian Planet Search Network (EAPSNET)
ELODIE
EPICS based at the E-ELT
ESPRESSO based at the VLT
EXPRES based at the Discovery Channel Telescope
FINDS Exo-Earths based at the 3m telescope at Lick Observatory
Gemini Planet Imager (GPI)
Geneva Extrasolar Planet Search
High Accuracy Radial Velocity Planet Searcher (HARPS)
HARPS-N
HATNet and HATSouth Projects (HAT)
HEK
HiCIAO
High Resolution Echelle Spectrometer (HIRES)based at the W. M. Keck Observatory
KELT
Lick–Carnegie Exoplanet Survey (LCES)
Magellan Planet Search Program
MARVELS
MEarth Project
Microlensing Follow-Up Network (MicroFUN)
Microlensing Observations in Astrophysics MOA)
Micro-arcsecond University of Sydney Companion Astrometry (MUSCA) - -
MINiature Exoplanet Radial Velocity Array(MINERVA)
N2K Consortium
NASA-UC Eta-Earth
New Mexico Exoplanet Spectroscopic Survey Instrument (NESSI)
Next-Generation Transit Survey (NGTS) at Paranal, since 2015
Okayama Planet Search Program (OPSP)
Optical Gravitational Lensing Experiment (OGLE)
Palomar High-precision Astrometric Search for Exoplanet Systems (PHASES)
PlanetPol
PlanetQuest
PRL Advanced Radial-velocity All-sky Search (PARAS)
Project 1640
Search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI)
SOPHIE échelle spectrograph
Spectro-Polarimetric High-Contrast Exoplanet Research (SPHERE)
SPECULOOS - -
Strategic Explorations of Exoplanets and Disks with Subaru (SEEDS)
Systemic an amateur search project
Trans-Atlantic Exoplanet Survey (TrES)
XO Telescope (XO)
ZIMPOL/CHEOPS subsystem of the VLT-SPHERE instrument, based at the VLT[14]
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Ha Ha Ha! "Much = truth, less = lie!", is it?
Invention of useless work to be done by too many slaves to handle...
What gives you reason to believe in "billions" of years and life somewhere else? Cannot make sure something is older than 500 years, except some human left a written note.
Only the Satan rebellion attitude, put in fake science - quantitative knowledge without the Creator to be "seen" there may disturb the mind.
To people like you, the life is just a combination of some material parts made in a way you believe it'll work anyway, anywhere.
You - pagans and atheists - believe in the lies of your "inner voices" as source of special wisdom, inspired by the breath of demons and think you're smart.
Wake up!
There's no star, only some variable field intensity; you can't see any light out of atmosphere.
What you do not see is not an object.
No star => no "planets" to... move around.
No planets => Disneyland.
Nobody can or will ever get there, in this imagery propaganda.
The move between Sun and Earth is relative and nobody could find that the Earth is moving and described the apparent move observed, not the absolute space location.
So, you believe in star and the rotation of something named exoplanet.
Atheist, evolutionist, scientist thinking style.
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Scientist have lots of ideas where water came from. That's why they conduct on-going research - to learn which theories evidence supports, and which ones it refutes. There is strong direct and indirect evidence that supports the fact that both asteroids and comets contain water. No knowledgeable person in this day and age would refute that. Meteorites containing water have hit the earth, so at least some of the water on Earth did come from that source. Scientists were not "completely wrong", as you exaggerated. New theories suggest that Earth (and indeed, other planets) were not necessarily formed as hot, molten spheres as earlier believed. If that is true, then it is likely that Earth's water has been here since the formation of the planet, just as it is likely that water forms in the formation of all planets that formed similarly.
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If any scientist actually gets the top of the mountain (what he's trying to achieve), he stands in awe...of God. They were completely wrong for 3000 years.

....and you are wasting resources with false ideology.
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Who was completely wrong about what?
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The water cycle is a creation of God. It was explained in Genesis orally spoken for over 3000 years. The asteroid/meteorite theory was wrong for over 3000 years. There is absolutely zero evidence of a "habitable zone". It's a complete waste of resources to look for planets without the instruments necessary to know what there composition is or to visibly see them.

Carbon dating doesn't work past a few thousand years and anything with carbon in it, would mean it's not very old.

What I'm stating, is that the greatest scientist, were all Christians and we didn't have or need massive debt or create false ideology like "habitable zones" to fund it.
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That's crazy. Asteroids weren't discovered until 1801, and the fact that they contain water wasn't confirmed until 2007. I don't think "scientists" were the ones that were wrong for 3000 years. Humanity has never been better able to observe and analyze the universe than we are today. our knowledge of the universe is growing, and it is an exciting time to be alive. Why would you want mankind to stop exploring, learning, and growing?
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If any scientist actually gets the top of the mountain (what he's trying to achieve), he stands in awe...of God. They were completely wrong for 3000 years.

....and you are wasting resources with false ideology.
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Who was completely wrong about what?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73975191


The water cycle is a creation of God. It was explained in Genesis orally spoken for over 3000 years. The asteroid/meteorite theory was wrong for over 3000 years. There is absolutely zero evidence of a "habitable zone". It's a complete waste of resources to look for planets without the instruments necessary to know what there composition is or to visibly see them.

Carbon dating doesn't work past a few thousand years and anything with carbon in it, would mean it's not very old.

What I'm stating, is that the greatest scientist, were all Christians and we didn't have or need massive debt or create false ideology like "habitable zones" to fund it.
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That's crazy. Asteroids weren't discovered until 1801, and the fact that they contain water wasn't confirmed until 2007. I don't think "scientists" were the ones that were wrong for 3000 years. Humanity has never been better able to observe and analyze the universe than we are today. our knowledge of the universe is growing, and it is an exciting time to be alive. Why would you want mankind to stop exploring, learning, and growing?
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Then, scientist/atheist were in the dark for 3000 years, while Christians have had the word of God that explain the water-cycle. No our knowledge of the universe isn't growing. I'd personally be excited for astronomy, when someone invents a telescope that can VERIFIABLE see other planets. We won't have a scientific revolution until government gets out of the way and most of your original post is outside of verifiable information. Habital zones. False. Independent agencies and individuals. Most likely...false. 4.5 billion years ago. False. Likely resembles the conditions on various planets throughout the universe (false!). Abundance of liquid water outside of earth (where?) Comets? (false).

You have alot of faith in something that isn't very true.
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Fundamental misinterpretation coupled with wild, dogmatic speculation as to the age of the earth = Geology

The evidence that fossils are billions of years old is as absurd and nonexistent as the evidence for God. And it's important to remind people that the theory of the big bang came from a catholic priest. The Earth is not 6000 years old, neither is the Earth 4.6 billion years old.
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Who was completely wrong about what?
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The water cycle is a creation of God. It was explained in Genesis orally spoken for over 3000 years. The asteroid/meteorite theory was wrong for over 3000 years. There is absolutely zero evidence of a "habitable zone". It's a complete waste of resources to look for planets without the instruments necessary to know what there composition is or to visibly see them.

Carbon dating doesn't work past a few thousand years and anything with carbon in it, would mean it's not very old.

What I'm stating, is that the greatest scientist, were all Christians and we didn't have or need massive debt or create false ideology like "habitable zones" to fund it.
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That's crazy. Asteroids weren't discovered until 1801, and the fact that they contain water wasn't confirmed until 2007. I don't think "scientists" were the ones that were wrong for 3000 years. Humanity has never been better able to observe and analyze the universe than we are today. our knowledge of the universe is growing, and it is an exciting time to be alive. Why would you want mankind to stop exploring, learning, and growing?
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Then, scientist/atheist were in the dark for 3000 years, while Christians have had the word of God that explain the water-cycle. No our knowledge of the universe isn't growing. I'd personally be excited for astronomy, when someone invents a telescope that can VERIFIABLE see other planets. We won't have a scientific revolution until government gets out of the way and most of your original post is outside of verifiable information. Habital zones. False. Independent agencies and individuals. Most likely...false. 4.5 billion years ago. False. Likely resembles the conditions on various planets throughout the universe (false!). Abundance of liquid water outside of earth (where?) Comets? (false).

You have alot of faith in something that isn't very true.
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Publicly available telescopes capable of seeing the polar icecaps on Mars exist, so I guess now you can get excited about astronomy.5a
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Use your brain, idiot, human beings have been exiled from the greater universe. All we do is annoy the fuck out of other beings. The only way out is....
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The water cycle is a creation of God. It was explained in Genesis orally spoken for over 3000 years. The asteroid/meteorite theory was wrong for over 3000 years. There is absolutely zero evidence of a "habitable zone". It's a complete waste of resources to look for planets without the instruments necessary to know what there composition is or to visibly see them.

Carbon dating doesn't work past a few thousand years and anything with carbon in it, would mean it's not very old.

What I'm stating, is that the greatest scientist, were all Christians and we didn't have or need massive debt or create false ideology like "habitable zones" to fund it.
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That's crazy. Asteroids weren't discovered until 1801, and the fact that they contain water wasn't confirmed until 2007. I don't think "scientists" were the ones that were wrong for 3000 years. Humanity has never been better able to observe and analyze the universe than we are today. our knowledge of the universe is growing, and it is an exciting time to be alive. Why would you want mankind to stop exploring, learning, and growing?
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Then, scientist/atheist were in the dark for 3000 years, while Christians have had the word of God that explain the water-cycle. No our knowledge of the universe isn't growing. I'd personally be excited for astronomy, when someone invents a telescope that can VERIFIABLE see other planets. We won't have a scientific revolution until government gets out of the way and most of your original post is outside of verifiable information. Habital zones. False. Independent agencies and individuals. Most likely...false. 4.5 billion years ago. False. Likely resembles the conditions on various planets throughout the universe (false!). Abundance of liquid water outside of earth (where?) Comets? (false).

You have alot of faith in something that isn't very true.
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Publicly available telescopes capable of seeing the polar icecaps on Mars exist, so I guess now you can get excited about astronomy.5a
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And that's were our real limitations are and there's not much water. If we want to expand our reach further, we need to limited government...and most paths lead to larger government.

Hey bro, can you explain to me why, when I look at the starts at night, they start dancing, then move across the entire sky? They aren't fixed objects when I'm looking at them.
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There is zero evidence of any life elsewhere.
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Over 3,500 exoplanets have been discovered so far, many of them within the habitable zones of star systems. There are over a dozen methods that have proved successful for discovering a new planet or confirming an already discovered planet, and a long list of independent agencies and individuals that corroborate the discoveries.

The recent discovery of the Earth's oldest fossils indicates that life began on this planet under very harsh conditions, shortly after the planet's formation. .....

With all of this verifiable knowledge available to anyone with access to modern technology, how is it possible that so many people continue to believe that life is exclusive to our planet?
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who's facts and who is cross-checking said facts. i still haven't heard a fact about how it is possible to penetrate the Van Allen Radiation Belts...with a tin can designed in 1960s tech...yet we can confirm based on Kunrick's 2001 that space flight can be filmed without going to space.
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Here's a short list of the active exoplanet search projects to get you started:

Anglo-Australian Planet Search (AAPS)
Automated Planet Finder (APF) based at the Lick Observatory (also known as the Rocky Planet Finder)
Carl Sagan Institute
CORALIE spectrograph based at Leonhard Euler Telescope
East-Asian Planet Search Network (EAPSNET)
ELODIE
EPICS based at the E-ELT
ESPRESSO based at the VLT
EXPRES based at the Discovery Channel Telescope
FINDS Exo-Earths based at the 3m telescope at Lick Observatory
Gemini Planet Imager (GPI)
Geneva Extrasolar Planet Search
High Accuracy Radial Velocity Planet Searcher (HARPS)
HARPS-N
HATNet and HATSouth Projects (HAT)
HEK
HiCIAO
High Resolution Echelle Spectrometer (HIRES)based at the W. M. Keck Observatory
KELT
Lick–Carnegie Exoplanet Survey (LCES)
Magellan Planet Search Program
MARVELS
MEarth Project
Microlensing Follow-Up Network (MicroFUN)
Microlensing Observations in Astrophysics MOA)
Micro-arcsecond University of Sydney Companion Astrometry (MUSCA) - -
MINiature Exoplanet Radial Velocity Array(MINERVA)
N2K Consortium
NASA-UC Eta-Earth
New Mexico Exoplanet Spectroscopic Survey Instrument (NESSI)
Next-Generation Transit Survey (NGTS) at Paranal, since 2015
Okayama Planet Search Program (OPSP)
Optical Gravitational Lensing Experiment (OGLE)
Palomar High-precision Astrometric Search for Exoplanet Systems (PHASES)
PlanetPol
PlanetQuest
PRL Advanced Radial-velocity All-sky Search (PARAS)
Project 1640
Search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI)
SOPHIE échelle spectrograph
Spectro-Polarimetric High-Contrast Exoplanet Research (SPHERE)
SPECULOOS - -
Strategic Explorations of Exoplanets and Disks with Subaru (SEEDS)
Systemic an amateur search project
Trans-Atlantic Exoplanet Survey (TrES)
XO Telescope (XO)
ZIMPOL/CHEOPS subsystem of the VLT-SPHERE instrument, based at the VLT[14]
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Ha Ha Ha! "Much = truth, less = lie!", is it?
Invention of useless work to be done by too many slaves to handle...
What gives you reason to believe in "billions" of years and life somewhere else? Cannot make sure something is older than 500 years, except some human left a written note.
Only the Satan rebellion attitude, put in fake science - quantitative knowledge without the Creator to be "seen" there may disturb the mind.
To people like you, the life is just a combination of some material parts made in a way you believe it'll work anyway, anywhere.
You - pagans and atheists - believe in the lies of your "inner voices" as source of special wisdom, inspired by the breath of demons and think you're smart.
Wake up!
There's no star, only some variable field intensity; you can't see any light out of atmosphere.
What you do not see is not an object.
No star => no "planets" to... move around.
No planets => Disneyland.
Nobody can or will ever get there, in this imagery propaganda.
The move between Sun and Earth is relative and nobody could find that the Earth is moving and described the apparent move observed, not the absolute space location.
So, you believe in star and the rotation of something named exoplanet.
Atheist, evolutionist, scientist thinking style.
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What are you on about? Disneyland is real - I've been there.
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There is zero evidence of any life elsewhere.
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But it's coming soon.
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There is zero evidence of any life elsewhere.
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But it's coming soon.
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No, it's not. Telescopes are improving. But the chances of finding alien life are not dramatically improving.





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