President Trump on a twitter rampage-Accuses Obama of wiretapping phones | |
XJDUB
User ID: 73274634 Canada 03/04/2017 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... this back and forth is a little like a sparring match keeping us on our toes. Fact is we are humans and there will always be people here that will fall for troll bait. At least we can let them know we are relentless in our effort despite not being paid. If and when it ever comes to violence we the Trump supporters will come back with the full force of our will, and there meager dirty money paychecks will be no match for the pure of heart. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73884141 None! Let the facts fall wherever, whenever, and however they may. INTP - The Logician. 'Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.' - Albert Einstein. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39695520 Canada 03/04/2017 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking morons. Are you really buying this shit?! You all think that Obummer tapped his shit? Oh, if any part of it IS true, could it not be for say, unauthorized communications with the Russians? Or even a hundred other reasons? Again... IF it is true. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74275886 No, it could't be. Because if it was, the proof and case would have been made BEFORE THE CUNT OBUMMER LEFT OFFICE. But it wasn't, so nothing was there, nothing was found. So, SUCK IT DEM, YOU LOST...AGAIN. If a judge authorizes surveillance of communications on reasonable grounds, the authorization isn't retroactively illegal just because the surveillance doesn't lead to an indictment. Jut like if the police have a search warrant and find nothing ... the search was still legal. But not if the reason was bullshit to start. Not if the judge was fed misinformation. FISA seems to be the way to go if a .gov entity wants to listen in on anyone without proof of a crime. And that is exactly what seems to have happened in this case. So to make this stick you need evidence that the evidence presented to the judge was untrue or misleading, and that and then you need evidence that Obama was aware that the evidence was untrue or misleading. I think he can sleep easy, unless the huge number of people on this board calling for summary execution get their way. |
The Vanilla Guerrilla
User ID: 74162508 Poland 03/04/2017 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GAME OVER FOR THE OBAMA REGIME. PREPARE FOR RIOTS AND MASS CIVIL UNREST PLEASE EMBED [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] Let the Bible be your weapon of choice. Let Scripture be your ammo. Fluent In Subterfuge Subterfuge Is The Weaponization Of Political Propaganda On An Industrial Scale At The International Level |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74228320 United Kingdom 03/04/2017 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking morons. Are you really buying this shit?! You all think that Obummer tapped his shit? Oh, if any part of it IS true, could it not be for say, unauthorized communications with the Russians? Or even a hundred other reasons? Again... IF it is true. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74275886 No, it could't be. Because if it was, the proof and case would have been made BEFORE THE CUNT OBUMMER LEFT OFFICE. But it wasn't, so nothing was there, nothing was found. So, SUCK IT DEM, YOU LOST...AGAIN. If a judge authorizes surveillance of communications on reasonable grounds, the authorization isn't retroactively illegal just because the surveillance doesn't lead to an indictment. Jut like if the police have a search warrant and find nothing ... the search was still legal. But not if the reason was bullshit to start. Not if the judge was fed misinformation. FISA seems to be the way to go if a .gov entity wants to listen in on anyone without proof of a crime. And that is exactly what seems to have happened in this case. And so far as I understand, Judges cannot change laws so they will need to testify! Nothing.has changed since Nixon. The president (Obama) must testify also. He's got a law background, he should therefore know that, even if he claims that he himself did not endorse it, the agencies that work for government do not act alone unless there is hard evidence, and the reasoning to probe Trump in this way is therefore the responsibility of POTUS. The judges must themselves state the full evidence and/or the source. Obama would fair better if he came clean that he was just snooping on Trump for the purposes of affecting the election. If this does not come to court, your law system is through. |
XJDUB
User ID: 73274634 Canada 03/04/2017 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't go the whole way on the truth then overall the progression of corruption continues. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69520875 Nice. Let the facts fall wherever, whenever, and however they may. INTP - The Logician. 'Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.' - Albert Einstein. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74287655 Dominican Republic 03/04/2017 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To catch everyone up on everything that has happened: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64925815 Mike Levin made a claim that can't be substantiated about Obama ordering the wire tapping of Trump Tower. BrietBart foolishly wrote an article on it. They were the only reputable website that gave attention to the story. Trump sees the old article and for some reason doesn't have the sense to wait before taking to Twitter and making a fool of himself. Now the media is tearing Trump a new asshole, the Democrats are looking more sensible in the eyes of America, Obama is relevant again, and GLP shills are saying you should swallow Trumps twitter claims without thinking critically. And that's why the media loses everytime. They try and slide in a made up fact and the only ppl who fall for it are the snowflakes and the rest of the country calls them on their bullshit immediately because it's always do blatant and amateurish. so when the media calls out trump to his face on live tv for his electoral college victory NOT being the biggest since reagan, did they lose then? Did they make up facts about trump not having the biggest electoral college victory...oh no wait that was trump who made that up But you probably think it was normal for Obama to talk about 57 states. |
XJDUB
User ID: 73274634 Canada 03/04/2017 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GAME OVER FOR THE OBAMA REGIME. PREPARE FOR RIOTS AND MASS CIVIL UNREST Quoting: The Vanilla Guerrilla PLEASE EMBED [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] Let the facts fall wherever, whenever, and however they may. INTP - The Logician. 'Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.' - Albert Einstein. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69071962 United States 03/04/2017 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... this back and forth is a little like a sparring match keeping us on our toes. Fact is we are humans and there will always be people here that will fall for troll bait. At least we can let them know we are relentless in our effort despite not being paid. If and when it ever comes to violence we the Trump supporters will come back with the full force of our will, and there meager dirty money paychecks will be no match for the pure of heart. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73884141 None! I pray iit doesn't get that bad . But know this. A d I think most do. But just in case "they" dont which includes Cnn MSNBC washpo etc etc. If Trump goes down the entire world goes down. You people need to understand that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 67702884 United States 03/04/2017 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here was a man who had integrity and honor meant more to him than dishonesty. Quoting: Sassy Granny NSA Director Mike Rogers Told Trump About The Wire Taps And Was Removed From Office, This was in Aug or Oct of 2016. [link to twitter.com (secure)] post the text please Im baned from twitter That's it. Google for article about Mike Rogers, NSA Director being fired. We didn't know why but now we do. He traveled to NY without notifying superiors to NY to meet with Trump at Trump Towers. Then he was fired. This means Donald Trump has known about all this since at least Oct. 2016. Why am I smiling??? I figured trump know, he was holding his cards |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74101367 United Kingdom 03/04/2017 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember the debates, on TV between Clinton, and Trump. Clinton always had well prepared meticulous responses to Trump questions at those debates. We were speculating at the time; how she always appeared unflustered, cool as a Cucumber. Except of course when Trump deviated away from the official script prepared for him, and those Obama eaves dropping spying devices in residence at Trump Towers. And Hitlery still lost |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74321148 United States 03/04/2017 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here was a man who had integrity and honor meant more to him than dishonesty. Quoting: Sassy Granny NSA Director Mike Rogers Told Trump About The Wire Taps And Was Removed From Office, This was in Aug or Oct of 2016. [link to twitter.com (secure)] post the text please Im baned from twitter That's it. Google for article about Mike Rogers, NSA Director being fired. We didn't know why but now we do. He traveled to NY without notifying superiors to NY to meet with Trump at Trump Towers. Then he was fired. This means Donald Trump has known about all this since at least Oct. 2016. Why am I smiling??? I figured trump know, he was holding his cards |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71550626 Latvia 03/04/2017 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | David A. Clarke, Jr 4h4 hours ago Folks, @realDonaldTrump is fighting by himself in the swamp of D.C. GOP estab is NOT throwing political punches for him. He needs us NOW! [link to twitter.com (secure)] Someone has a whole thread on this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74318105 United States 03/04/2017 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To catch everyone up on everything that has happened: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64925815 Mike Levin made a claim that can't be substantiated about Obama ordering the wire tapping of Trump Tower. BrietBart foolishly wrote an article on it. They were the only reputable website that gave attention to the story. Trump sees the old article and for some reason doesn't have the sense to wait before taking to Twitter and making a fool of himself. Now the media is tearing Trump a new asshole, the Democrats are looking more sensible in the eyes of America, Obama is relevant again, and GLP shills are saying you should swallow Trumps twitter claims without thinking critically. And that's why the media loses everytime. They try and slide in a made up fact and the only ppl who fall for it are the snowflakes and the rest of the country calls them on their bullshit immediately because it's always do blatant and amateurish. so when the media calls out trump to his face on live tv for his electoral college victory NOT being the biggest since reagan, did they lose then? Did they make up facts about trump not having the biggest electoral college victory...oh no wait that was trump who made that up You got nothing in your hand. Playing with a pair a duces, King high. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46864829 United States 03/04/2017 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could have told you Obozo the commie and the dem DC pedophiles were bugging Trump left and right...they are clearly scared of him, why else would they do it? I'm with Trump 100%, obozo already proved he is nothing more than a liar scumb@g commie con-man from kenya, the hustling dickhead couldn't even produce a real birth certificate...what does that tell you?!? Add to that all unconstitutional garbage, obozocare mandate, NDAA, muslim brotherhood affiliation ans ISIS funding behind our backs, never ending anti-US things he did to us Americans. The sooner him, shrillary, schumer, McCain, Bush, and the rest of the pedophiles drop dead the better. GO TRUMP! Calling out the commie con-man...I LOVE IT! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69727329 United States 03/04/2017 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FISA warrant means foreign agent - the threat of espionage involvement. Did Trump declassify the information and tell the whole world today via TWITTER that he and his staff are under investigation for some form of Russian involvement (banking perhaps)? [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69727329 United States 03/04/2017 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A deeply buried detail in today’s New York Times article on the subject has huge implications for Trump and his team: But a senior White House official said that Donald F. McGahn II, the president’s chief counsel, was working on Saturday to secure access to what Mr. McGahn believed was an order issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court authorizing some form of surveillance related to Mr. Trump and his associates. The official offered no evidence to support the notion that such an order exists. If one does, it would be highly unusual for a White House to order the Justice Department to turn over such an investigative document, given the traditional independence of law enforcement matters. This is extremely important for two reasons. Even if it doesn’t exist, the fact that it has spooked the White House enough to go looking for the FISA warrant is an admission of guilt in itself. If it does exist, as the White House counsel clearly believes it does, it means that three federal judges had enough evidence that Donald Trump’s election campaign was infiltrated by foreign agents to issue a wiretap. Secondly, it is a huge breach of protocol for the White House to interfere with an ongoing Department of Justice investigation. While not technically illegal, it is extremely unethical for the White House counsel to be meddling in the affairs of the DOJ, especially when the investigation is targeted at members of the current administration. [link to occupydemocrats.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39695520 Canada 03/04/2017 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A deeply buried detail in today’s New York Times article on the subject has huge implications for Trump and his team: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69727329 But a senior White House official said that Donald F. McGahn II, the president’s chief counsel, was working on Saturday to secure access to what Mr. McGahn believed was an order issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court authorizing some form of surveillance related to Mr. Trump and his associates. The official offered no evidence to support the notion that such an order exists. If one does, it would be highly unusual for a White House to order the Justice Department to turn over such an investigative document, given the traditional independence of law enforcement matters. This is extremely important for two reasons. Even if it doesn’t exist, the fact that it has spooked the White House enough to go looking for the FISA warrant is an admission of guilt in itself. If it does exist, as the White House counsel clearly believes it does, it means that three federal judges had enough evidence that Donald Trump’s election campaign was infiltrated by foreign agents to issue a wiretap. Secondly, it is a huge breach of protocol for the White House to interfere with an ongoing Department of Justice investigation. While not technically illegal, it is extremely unethical for the White House counsel to be meddling in the affairs of the DOJ, especially when the investigation is targeted at members of the current administration. [link to occupydemocrats.com] ! |
Sassy Granny
User ID: 70382294 United States 03/04/2017 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A deeply buried detail in today’s New York Times article on the subject has huge implications for Trump and his team: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69727329 But a senior White House official said that Donald F. McGahn II, the president’s chief counsel, was working on Saturday to secure access to what Mr. McGahn believed was an order issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court authorizing some form of surveillance related to Mr. Trump and his associates. The official offered no evidence to support the notion that such an order exists. If one does, it would be highly unusual for a White House to order the Justice Department to turn over such an investigative document, given the traditional independence of law enforcement matters. This is extremely important for two reasons. Even if it doesn’t exist, the fact that it has spooked the White House enough to go looking for the FISA warrant is an admission of guilt in itself. If it does exist, as the White House counsel clearly believes it does, it means that three federal judges had enough evidence that Donald Trump’s election campaign was infiltrated by foreign agents to issue a wiretap. Secondly, it is a huge breach of protocol for the White House to interfere with an ongoing Department of Justice investigation. While not technically illegal, it is extremely unethical for the White House counsel to be meddling in the affairs of the DOJ, especially when the investigation is targeted at members of the current administration. [link to occupydemocrats.com] [link to qanonmap.github.io (secure)] Thread: q-list of abbreviations Thread: "DOT" Global Consciousness Project [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] “You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”.” Quoted by Lincoln-written by John Lydgate THIS world is not conclusion; A sequel stands beyond,Invisible, as music, But positive, as sound.-Emily Dickinson |
Pony Up
User ID: 74275731 United States 03/04/2017 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A deeply buried detail in today’s New York Times article on the subject has huge implications for Trump and his team: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69727329 But a senior White House official said that Donald F. McGahn II, the president’s chief counsel, was working on Saturday to secure access to what Mr. McGahn believed was an order issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court authorizing some form of surveillance related to Mr. Trump and his associates. The official offered no evidence to support the notion that such an order exists. If one does, it would be highly unusual for a White House to order the Justice Department to turn over such an investigative document, given the traditional independence of law enforcement matters. This is extremely important for two reasons. Even if it doesn’t exist, the fact that it has spooked the White House enough to go looking for the FISA warrant is an admission of guilt in itself. If it does exist, as the White House counsel clearly believes it does, it means that three federal judges had enough evidence that Donald Trump’s election campaign was infiltrated by foreign agents to issue a wiretap. Secondly, it is a huge breach of protocol for the White House to interfere with an ongoing Department of Justice investigation. While not technically illegal, it is extremely unethical for the White House counsel to be meddling in the affairs of the DOJ, especially when the investigation is targeted at members of the current administration. [link to occupydemocrats.com] ....Caught a head spin after reading. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35799703 United States 03/04/2017 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A deeply buried detail in today’s New York Times article on the subject has huge implications for Trump and his team: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69727329 But a senior White House official said that Donald F. McGahn II, the president’s chief counsel, was working on Saturday to secure access to what Mr. McGahn believed was an order issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court authorizing some form of surveillance related to Mr. Trump and his associates. The official offered no evidence to support the notion that such an order exists. If one does, it would be highly unusual for a White House to order the Justice Department to turn over such an investigative document, given the traditional independence of law enforcement matters. This is extremely important for two reasons. Even if it doesn’t exist, the fact that it has spooked the White House enough to go looking for the FISA warrant is an admission of guilt in itself. If it does exist, as the White House counsel clearly believes it does, it means that three federal judges had enough evidence that Donald Trump’s election campaign was infiltrated by foreign agents to issue a wiretap. Secondly, it is a huge breach of protocol for the White House to interfere with an ongoing Department of Justice investigation. While not technically illegal, it is extremely unethical for the White House counsel to be meddling in the affairs of the DOJ, especially when the investigation is targeted at members of the current administration. [link to occupydemocrats.com] no. all the FISA Judges need to have is the Democrat's suspision that Trump might be a Putin stooge, and the warrant would be to investigate to find out if it's true. all of which is total Looney Tunes, of course. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29184782 United States 03/04/2017 11:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So if Trump Towers were wire tapped then there was probable cause to do so? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73840639 If memory serves me correctly, there are 2 Russian banks that have rented space in Trump Towers. That is not cause for suspicion or wiretaps. Surely, there are other banks and businesses with space rented in Trump Towers also. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29184782 United States 03/04/2017 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think you have seen the real backlash yet. This battle for who really controls the government is just getting started. Illegal corrupt Shadow Government versus the duly Elected Government. These are just the early shots being fired. Trumps vengeance runs deep. No. Justice is what runs deep. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35799703 United States 03/04/2017 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So if Trump Towers were wire tapped then there was probable cause to do so? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73840639 If memory serves me correctly, there are 2 Russian banks that have rented space in Trump Towers. That is not cause for suspicion or wiretaps. Surely, there are other banks and businesses with space rented in Trump Towers also. the Democrats are trying to spread the factious lie that Trump is a Putin stooge, and the rubber stamp FISA Court fell for it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35799703 United States 03/04/2017 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and Trump doesn't need the FISA Court, because Quoting: freddie 0 the Patriot Act Trumps the FISA Court. If that is the way it works then that would also apply to the ex president also, correct? So many folks are starting to feel utterly betrayed. no. The Patriot Act is not Blanket Martial Law. The Patriot Act only applies when it is officially invoked for specific persons, people or situations. so, if Obama didn't invoke The Patriot Act, then he is acting under the NDAA. |