President Trump on a twitter rampage-Accuses Obama of wiretapping phones | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58191739 United States 03/05/2017 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | GAME OVER FOR THE OBAMA REGIME. PREPARE FOR RIOTS AND MASS CIVIL UNREST Quoting: The Vanilla Guerrilla PLEASE EMBED [link to m.youtube.com (secure)] Let em riot. They do nothing but tear down their own Dem communities. We on the other side are sick and tired of seeing the D party get away with breaking laws all the damn time and having the media cover for them. Sick of it. Time for some justice in this country and let the Dem hellholes burn. |
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User ID: 74051512 United States 03/05/2017 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Schwinbo If a judge authorizes surveillance of communications on reasonable grounds, the authorization isn't retroactively illegal just because the surveillance doesn't lead to an indictment. Jut like if the police have a search warrant and find nothing ... the search was still legal. But not if the reason was bullshit to start. Not if the judge was fed misinformation. FISA seems to be the way to go if a .gov entity wants to listen in on anyone without proof of a crime. And that is exactly what seems to have happened in this case. So to make this stick you need evidence that the evidence presented to the judge was untrue or misleading, and that and then you need evidence that Obama was aware that the evidence was untrue or misleading. I think he can sleep easy, unless the huge number of people on this board calling for summary execution get their way. Flimsy, very flimsy evidence. And you have your head in the sand if you think Obummer didn't know of this or approve it, as opposed to "ordered" it. He's done it before. Rosen, Bibi, Irs. Now, it could very well be the clintoons that ordered it and Obummer approved it, but, that doesn't remove the "political" illegal nature of it. There is more truth to this being Watergate 2.0 than there is that Trump colluded with Russians to win the election. The Dems pushed the russia thing way too far and now they are going to receive push back. None of us are fans of Graham....but listen to this........ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35799703 United States 03/05/2017 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian Market‏@russian_market 7 min. Quoting: KneelB4Zod! White House asks Congress to probe whether Obama ordered wiretap Yep, we won't hear any more from trump on this subject according to spicer: (1/4) Reports concerning potentially politically motivated investigations immediately ahead of the 2016 election are very troubling. (2/4) President Trump is requesting that as part of their investigation into Russian activity, the congressional intelligence committees (3/4) exercise their oversight authority to determine whether executive branch investigative powers were abused in 2016. (4/4) Neither the White House nor the President will comment further until such oversight is conducted. The American People know that Obama really did it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58191739 United States 03/05/2017 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58191739 No, it could't be. Because if it was, the proof and case would have been made BEFORE THE CUNT OBUMMER LEFT OFFICE. But it wasn't, so nothing was there, nothing was found. So, SUCK IT DEM, YOU LOST...AGAIN. If a judge authorizes surveillance of communications on reasonable grounds, the authorization isn't retroactively illegal just because the surveillance doesn't lead to an indictment. Jut like if the police have a search warrant and find nothing ... the search was still legal. But not if the reason was bullshit to start. Not if the judge was fed misinformation. FISA seems to be the way to go if a .gov entity wants to listen in on anyone without proof of a crime. And that is exactly what seems to have happened in this case. And so far as I understand, Judges cannot change laws so they will need to testify! Nothing.has changed since Nixon. The president (Obama) must testify also. He's got a law background, he should therefore know that, even if he claims that he himself did not endorse it, the agencies that work for government do not act alone unless there is hard evidence, and the reasoning to probe Trump in this way is therefore the responsibility of POTUS. The judges must themselves state the full evidence and/or the source. Obama would fair better if he came clean that he was just snooping on Trump for the purposes of affecting the election. If this does not come to court, your law system is through. They used a flimsy excuse of a private server located in Trump tower that had communications with two russian banks. They had to remove Trumps name since they couldn't prove it was Trumps server and then the FISA was granted. Now, anyone with a brain knows space is rented in Trump tower to many businesses and many individuals. This server could have belonged to anyone. The bank communications could have been spam for all anyone knows. It was a flimsy excuse used to gain access to Trump. That is the scandal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58191739 United States 03/05/2017 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FISA warrant means foreign agent - the threat of espionage involvement. Did Trump declassify the information and tell the whole world today via TWITTER that he and his staff are under investigation for some form of Russian involvement (banking perhaps)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69727329 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] NO. He told the whole damn world that that was the excuse the D party used to spy on him during an election! That is the freaking story! WATERGATE 2.0 Obummer and the DC establishment(clintoon, bushies, mcpains, etc.) is going down. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35799703 United States 03/05/2017 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone's phone is tapped. It's no secret, the NSA has all our communications. Is this where Trump is going - that he just learned the NSA tapped his phone when he learned it taps EVERYONE'S phone? If so, that argument doesn't carry any weight. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70637237 Trump has his own deeply encrypted communications system for his Inner Circle, all maintained by his personal Secret Security Staff. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58191739 United States 03/05/2017 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A deeply buried detail in today’s New York Times article on the subject has huge implications for Trump and his team: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69727329 But a senior White House official said that Donald F. McGahn II, the president’s chief counsel, was working on Saturday to secure access to what Mr. McGahn believed was an order issued by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court authorizing some form of surveillance related to Mr. Trump and his associates. The official offered no evidence to support the notion that such an order exists. If one does, it would be highly unusual for a White House to order the Justice Department to turn over such an investigative document, given the traditional independence of law enforcement matters. This is extremely important for two reasons. Even if it doesn’t exist, the fact that it has spooked the White House enough to go looking for the FISA warrant is an admission of guilt in itself. If it does exist, as the White House counsel clearly believes it does, it means that three federal judges had enough evidence that Donald Trump’s election campaign was infiltrated by foreign agents to issue a wiretap. Secondly, it is a huge breach of protocol for the White House to interfere with an ongoing Department of Justice investigation. While not technically illegal, it is extremely unethical for the White House counsel to be meddling in the affairs of the DOJ, especially when the investigation is targeted at members of the current administration. [link to occupydemocrats.com] LOL. That's quite a contortion of the story. Obummers DoJ would have destroyed any paper or electronic trails. They had plenty of time to do it. The evidence is all the newspaper stories going a year back from a variety of sources (NYT, WaPO, etc.) documenting the actions, sourcing wiretap info and claiming info from Executive branch officials, even WH officials. The second FISA was granted based on flimsy evidence in order to spy on a political opponent. FISA is rarely denied and is the easiest to get (meaning no hard evidence). Just the fact that it's been going on for freaking ever and nothing has been found shows the D party failed and their theory was wrong. I contend it was used as an excuse to spy and get dirt to bring Trump down and it is looking more and more like that. No October surprise for you DEMS! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58191739 United States 03/05/2017 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and Trump doesn't need the FISA Court, because Quoting: freddie 0 the Patriot Act Trumps the FISA Court. If that is the way it works then that would also apply to the ex president also, correct? So many folks are starting to feel utterly betrayed. no. The Patriot Act is not Blanket Martial Law. The Patriot Act only applies when it is officially invoked for specific persons, people or situations. so, if Obama didn't invoke The Patriot Act, then he is acting under the NDAA. I wish this was all clearer. I do know that all my demonrat friends are suddenly very quiet. because they know the game has changed. they know that we know the whole russia narrative was nothing more than an excuse the D party used to spy on Trump during the campaign. Their stupid little game is over and the tables have turned. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58191739 United States 03/05/2017 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In support of Trump's charges against the media of fake news, would it be reasonable to ask that the media resolve not to print any Trump assertion that he hasn't supported with evidence ?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69727329 Seems fair doesn't it? Are they going to stop with their baseless russia ties to Trump? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 58191739 United States 03/05/2017 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is without a doubt that Obama knew of the FISA order for the wiretap and that he was aware of everything that was going on. Did he order it? This will be one of many questions in the days ahead...What will happen in the days ahead? I pray for this nation... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73760473 He doesn't have to order it. All he has to do is nod his head in approval. No paper trail that way. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35799703 United States 03/05/2017 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: The Vanilla Guerrilla :hes right: yes. it's a waste of time to let the "System" process this matter. the smartest thing Trump can do is to Try this Case in The Court of Public Opinion. . |
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User ID: 26862715 Czechia 03/05/2017 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Former Bush attorney general: Trump right that there was surveillance [link to thehill.com] Democracy according to the globalists, neo-liberals and hard core Obamists. “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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User ID: 26862715 Czechia 03/05/2017 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Donald Trump calls for investigation into 'abuse of powers' under Barack Obama [link to www.telegraph.co.uk] Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump 6 hod. Who was it that secretly said to Russian President, "Tell Vladimir that after the election I'll have more flexibility?" @foxandfriends “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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User ID: 18164985 Denmark 03/07/2017 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cris@ThePatriot143 · 9 min. BREAKING : Howard Dean Tweets Shocking Admission Trump Wiretapping Occurred [link to pbs.twimg.com (secure)] “You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.” - Bane "This is not a new world, it is simply an extension of what began in the old one. It has patterned itself after every dictator who has ever planted the ripping imprint of a boot on the pages of history since the beginning of time. It has refinements, technological advances, and a more sophisticated approach to the destruction of human freedom. But like every one of the super-states that preceded it, it has one iron rule: logic is an enemy and truth is a menace." - "The Obsolete Man" - The Twilight Zone, 1961 __________________________________________________________________________ "I assure you, ladies and gentlemen that, very soon history will show that we and our allies have fought a war on behalf of the whole world against terrorism supported by governments that will be held accountable by its own people..." Quoting Dostoyevsky: "Rest assured, hell is big enough for all. It doesn't deserve this fierce competition over who will be the worst." - Dr. Bashar Jaafari, UNSC session, 22nd of February, 2018 [link to youtu.be (secure)] __________________________________________________________________________ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78287957 United States 01/18/2020 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In support of Trump's charges against the media of fake news, would it be reasonable to ask that the media resolve not to print any Trump assertion that he hasn't supported with evidence ?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69727329 Seems fair doesn't it? Are they going to stop with their baseless russia ties to Trump? Nope. They're still going with it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74628864 United States 01/18/2020 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In support of Trump's charges against the media of fake news, would it be reasonable to ask that the media resolve not to print any Trump assertion that he hasn't supported with evidence ?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69727329 Seems fair doesn't it? Are they going to stop with their baseless russia ties to Trump? Nope. They're still going with it. Thread: Here Comes Wikigate 2: NYT Claims Russian Hackers Successfully "Breached" Burisma |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78287957 United States 01/18/2020 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In support of Trump's charges against the media of fake news, would it be reasonable to ask that the media resolve not to print any Trump assertion that he hasn't supported with evidence ?? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69727329 Seems fair doesn't it? Are they going to stop with their baseless russia ties to Trump? Nope. They're still going with it. Thread: Here Comes Wikigate 2: NYT Claims Russian Hackers Successfully "Breached" Burisma There were no Russian hackers. The DNC hacked itself and murdered Seth Rich. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78490291 Indonesia 02/18/2020 07:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In support of Trump's charges against the media of fake news, would it be reasonable to ask that the media resolve not to print any Trump assertion that he hasn't supported with evidence ?? Seems fair doesn't it? Are they going to stop with their baseless russia ties to Trump? Nope. They're still going with it. Thread: Here Comes Wikigate 2: NYT Claims Russian Hackers Successfully "Breached" Burisma |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80359229 United States 08/09/2022 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)] Quoting: Deplorable Factual Error 1m Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump How low has President Obama gone to tapp my phones during the very sacred election process. This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy! I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election! @realDonaldTrump Is it legal for a sitting President to be "wire tapping" a race for president prior to an election? Turned down by court earlier. A NEW LOW! TRUMP WAS WIRETAPPED AND RIGHT AGAIN... |