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Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?

 
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:judethe: This temple is the false temple built by Jewish people who do not believe in Jesus Christ. You can read more about it in the New Testament, or find out the hard way.
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Jesus is the temple and he is the sacrifice
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Orly? Then why it says:


Eze 45:22 And upon that day shall the prince (Messiah) prepare for himself and for all the people of the land a bullock for a sin offering.

The NT says Jesus is the sin offering that never sinned. Why is Jesus preparing a sin offering for himself? Ehh..fail
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11 And Aaron shall bring the bullock of the sin offering, which is for himself, and shall make an atonement for himself, and for his house, and shall kill the bullock of the sin offering which is for himself: 12And he shall take a censer full of burning coals of fire from off the altar before the LORD, and his hands full of sweet incense beaten small, and bring it within the vail: 13And he shall put the incense upon the fire before the LORD, that the cloud of the incense may cover the mercy seat that is upon the testimony, that he die not: 14And he shall take of the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he sprinkle of the blood with his finger seven times.
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So? Aron sinned and the Messiah won't be sinless. Your point is?
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
If Hebrews don't believe Jesus is the messiah why don't they do animal sacrifices anymore?
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People forgot the 13 commandments and the golden rule.. ;(
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
We will resume sacrifices once the temple is built.

For now we have our sins forgiven according to what the Torah tells us.
Repwntance prayer chariry and good deeds.

A question for you... if jeaus is the final and eternal savrifice why does Ezekiel say that in the third temple the sacrifices would resume?
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judethe This temple is the false temple built by Jewish people who do not believe in Jesus Christ. You can read more about it in the New Testament, or find out the hard way.
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It is not false. the 3rd temple is set up by God. It is the body of his believers.
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
Those sacrifices aren't for Christians.


Every high priest is appointed to present offerings and animal sacrifices to God, and so our High Priest must also have something to offer. 4 If he were on earth, he would not be a priest at all, since there are priests who offer the gifts required by the Jewish Law.

5 The work they do as priests is really only a copy and a shadow of what is in heaven. It is the same as it was with Moses. When he was about to build the Sacred Tent, God told him, “Be sure to make everything according to the pattern you were shown on the mountain.”

6 But now, Jesus has been given priestly work which is superior to theirs, just as the covenant which he arranged between God and his people is a better one, because it is based on promises of better things.
(Hebrews 8:4-6)
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But Christ has already come as the High Priest of the good things that are already here. The tent in which he serves is greater and more perfect; it is not a tent made by human hands, that is, it is not a part of this created world. 12 When Christ went through the tent and entered once and for all into the Most Holy Place, he did not take the blood of goats and bulls to offer as a sacrifice; rather, he took his own blood and obtained eternal salvation for us.
(Hebrews 9:11-12)
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
If Hebrews don't believe Jesus is the messiah why don't they do animal sacrifices anymore?
 Quoting: Cavjock12


They are waiting for their new play house to be built.
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aid to Israel about to increase!!
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
When the Holy Temple was built it became law that no sacrifices could be offered anywhere else.

Once the Holy Temple was destroyed in 70AD it became unholy to offer sacrifices.

When Messiach comes a 3rd temple will be built (it is written) and Thanksgiving Sacrifices will resume.

"And the sacrificial offerings of Judah and Jerusalem will be pleasing to Hashem, like in the olden days years ago" (Malachi 3:4).

The Messiach will come with new laws of sacrifice.

Remember.. it was acceptable to HaShem that Cain brought vegetation as an offering.. As it was acceptable to bring grain offerings to the Holy Temple. The problem with the offering of Cain is it was of the worst of the vegetation he had even though he labored it with his own hands.

also it is a big misunderstanding that the offering was equally for your neighbors, priests and the poor.. as it was for the Heavens.

There is this glorification of barbaric-ness for offerings. Does it surprise you to find that HaShem likes the smell of a good bar-B-Que too?

Just imagine you had wronged your neighbor and bring a peace offering.. His family and friends and your community would stand around the "offering" enjoying it.. Eating of it. You wouldn't. You would be making that offering to them, to bury your differences and they would accept it. Standing there.. with your mouth salivating as you smell it's deliciousness cooking and listen to them slurping in glee.

HaShem loved the aromas of the burned offerings and it's no more barbaric then an OPEN pit in the south today... The sacrifices/offerings.. were primarily consumed by the poor in the community. It ensured that the poor in the community had something to eat. The smell of the offerings was proof of our service to HIM and EACH other.. and that was the SWEETEST Aroma. It meant NO CHILD or WIDOW or POOR were hungry.

I guess thats a system a junky cant sell their foodstamps for more "junk"..

The idea they wasted the animals is molesting the entire understanding. The concept of slaughtering animals just "cause" is an abomination.


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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
Those sacrifices aren't for Christians.


Every high priest is appointed to present offerings and animal sacrifices to God, and so our High Priest must also have something to offer. 4 If he were on earth, he would not be a priest at all, since there are priests who offer the gifts required by the Jewish Law.

5 The work they do as priests is really only a copy and a shadow of what is in heaven. It is the same as it was with Moses. When he was about to build the Sacred Tent, God told him, “Be sure to make everything according to the pattern you were shown on the mountain.”

6 But now, Jesus has been given priestly work which is superior to theirs, just as the covenant which he arranged between God and his people is a better one, because it is based on promises of better things.
(Hebrews 8:4-6)
[link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)]


But Christ has already come as the High Priest of the good things that are already here. The tent in which he serves is greater and more perfect; it is not a tent made by human hands, that is, it is not a part of this created world. 12 When Christ went through the tent and entered once and for all into the Most Holy Place, he did not take the blood of goats and bulls to offer as a sacrifice; rather, he took his own blood and obtained eternal salvation for us.
(Hebrews 9:11-12)

[link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)]
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"he took his own blood and obtained eternal salvation for us"

This passage is often translation to include "for us", but that is not present in the Greek.

= "but through his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, finding an eternal payment of a ransom".



PATTERN OF THINGS - the priest entered through the unblemished blood of ANOTHER

THE TRUE - Jesus found the eternal payment of a ransom through his OWN blood.

The soul of the flesh is in the blood

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his soul for his friends.
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
We will resume sacrifices once the temple is built.

For now we have our sins forgiven according to what the Torah tells us.
Repwntance prayer chariry and good deeds.

A question for you... if jeaus is the final and eternal savrifice why does Ezekiel say that in the third temple the sacrifices would resume?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74368246



amos 5


20 Will not the day of the LORD be darkness instead of light, Even gloom with no brightness in it?




21"I hate, I reject your festivals, Nor do I delight in your solemn assemblies.

22"Even though you offer up to Me burnt offerings and your grain offerings, I will not accept them; And I will not even look at the peace offerings of your fatlings.…
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
Jeremiah 14:12
"When they fast, I am not going to listen to their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and grain offering, I am not going to accept them. Rather I am going to make an end of them by the sword, famine and pestilence."


Amos 6:8
The Lord GOD has sworn by Himself, the LORD God of hosts has declared: "I loathe the arrogance of Jacob, And detest his citadels; Therefore I will deliver up the city and all it contains."
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
Ezekiel 23:18
"She uncovered her harlotries and uncovered her nakedness; then I became disgusted with her, as I had become disgusted with her sister.
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
If Hebrews don't believe Jesus is the messiah why don't they do animal sacrifices anymore?
 Quoting: Cavjock12


Because they are waiting to build their new playhouse (temple) thinking they are special.
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
Because they are not allowed onto the Temple grounds and that is the only place God commanded sacrifices.
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
We will resume sacrifices once the temple is built.

For now we have our sins forgiven according to what the Torah tells us.
Repwntance prayer chariry and good deeds.

A question for you... if jeaus is the final and eternal savrifice why does Ezekiel say that in the third temple the sacrifices would resume?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74368246



amos 5


20 Will not the day of the LORD be darkness instead of light, Even gloom with no brightness in it?




21"I hate, I reject your festivals, Nor do I delight in your solemn assemblies.

22"Even though you offer up to Me burnt offerings and your grain offerings, I will not accept them; And I will not even look at the peace offerings of your fatlings.…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72134287


indeed.

"Woe to you who long for the day of the LORD! Why do you long for the day of the LORD? That day will be darkness, not light." - Amos 5:18.

"Therefore the prudent keep quiet in such times, for the times are evil." -Amos 5:13

"So the LORD relented. "This will not happen," the LORD said."- Amos 7:3
"This is what the Sovereign LORD showed me: The Sovereign LORD was calling for judgment by fire; it dried up the great deep and devoured the land.
"-Amos 7:4
"So the LORD relented. "This will not happen either," the Sovereign LORD said."- Amos 7:6
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
That's not the question.

The question is why God still hasn't restored the Temple after 1,947 of it being destroyed in AD 70 when it took him less than 70 years to begin restoring it when it was destroyed in 588 BC.
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
They still do sacrifices. They swing a chicken around their head, their sins are transfered to the poor chicken, they slaughter it and receive a get out of jail free card.
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
They still do sacrifices. They swing a chicken around their head, their sins are transfered to the poor chicken, they slaughter it and receive a get out of jail free card.
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
They still do sacrifices. They swing a chicken around their head, their sins are transfered to the poor chicken, they slaughter it and receive a get out of jail free card.
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
They still do sacrifices. They swing a chicken around their head, their sins are transfered to the poor chicken, they slaughter it and receive a get out of jail free card.
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
they got all the money they need and kissing The Lord's ass has gotten old.
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
I'm not entirely sure.

some sources say when the israelites were taken into captivity it began the 3 days of darkness. (1 day for God is 1ooo for Man)

The prophecy calls for TWO. It just hasn't happened yet...


"They are two different people from two different tribal families.
They live at the same time.
Moshiach ben Yosef never takes the throne nor is he entitled to.
Moshiach ben Yosef is a warrior (Moshiach ben Dovid would also appear to be)
Moshiach ben Yosef will be killed in BATTLE[15] and will be the first to be raised from the dead by Moshiach ben Dovid.
The period of time from when Moshiach ben Yosef first comes into prominence until he is resurrected after the Moshiach ben Dovid comes to his throne is very short, the longest period is under two years.
The basic chronology of events is that there is a seven-year period. It starts with continually problems, it starts to improve and then in the sixth year it gets worse again. In the seventh year there are great wars in which the Moshiach ben Yosef is first successful and then he is killed in that later part of the year. Many Jewish people will become depressed and fall away. At the end of the seven years Moshiach ben Dovid comes and finishes the job and there comes the resurrection of the dead." -Yosef- Judaismanswer.com


If we do not repent, the events of Ben Joseph will come to pass. But if we repent, they will not, and Messiah ben David will appear to us suddenly.-Emunah V’Deos by Rabbi Saadiah Gaon
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
They still do sacrifices. They swing a chicken around their head, their sins are transfered to the poor chicken, they slaughter it and receive a get out of jail free card.
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[link to www.nytimes.com (secure)]
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blink.

shake my damn head
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Re: Why don't Jws do sacrifices anymore?
Amazing nobody mentioned in this post that the Ashkenazi Jws decended from a group of Barbarians in Turkic Central Asia that practiced Turkic Shamanism up unto the point in which they converted to Jwdaism.

The Kazarians where known as being the most awful people in mid evil times. Often raping captives and sacrificing them to the Sun God Tengi





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