How long would Windows last if Linux Mint became mainstream?

various tasks on windows also require using the command line

if wine is too difficult for you to use, go to gog.com and get some games that run natively on linux. even steam sells games that run on linux. try playing those.

if setting up yore hardware such as graphics cards is too hard, either join a linux user group to help you or pay a professional to do it for you.

Funny you ask, Im downloading Mint MATE 64k right now. Just tried xFCE and it blows. Mint blows windows 7 away !!!! Lighter, faster and no security bs everytime you search the web. Easier to install than windows also and great driver support. You do need a little background but since Ive been a UNIX tech since 83, that's no problem. It wont be long before systems start shipping with Linux; hell Android is Linux im told.

so you just need 34 years experience with unix and it's all pretty easy???

How long? A long time. because Linux still is ages behind Linux. The gaming scene on Linux is absolute trash. Do you want to play TuxCart? Fuck no. I want to play Gta 5 and Far Cry 4 and Fallout 4 and Witcher 3. Not a game that looks like it was made 10 years ago.

& Linux doesn't work out of the box, as they say. You usually have to mess around and tweak shit to get basic things to work.

Using a command line to make programs work?
ON Windows they just work. You don't fuck around.

Linux also looks ugly and unpolished.

Sure if you have an old computer that only has windows 2000 on it, sure make the upgrade.

But Windows 10 crushes Linux in every way. Except maybe privacy. But who gives a fuck? They can spy on me, I'm not hiding anything.

And for the idiots who whine about viruses why do I get no viruses on my Windows 10 Gaming Machine? Don't download random porn and other shit off the internet and you don't know and you won't have a problem.

In what way is Linux better than Windows? Besides it will run on shitty machine?

because it can run on almost any machine, from a tiny computer to a giant super computer?

because linux is used to power most of the servers in the world?

because linux doesn't spy on you like windows does?

because linux at least makes some attempt at being secure unlike windows?

A long time. Windows will reign supreme until developers stop making gaming solely on directx. That will never happen as microsoft will take action to protect their product from being obsolete.

Wine doesn't work half the time and Gog has a shitty selection. It doesn't feature the newest, best games.

You shouldn't need to set up your hardware and fool around with settings.. On Windows it just works.

Why would someone bother wasting time playing around with command lines and tech forums to get basic things done on their computer, that Windows was able to do flawlessly already.

My Windows system has been Virus free.

My Windows system has Absolutely no problems running any game or program I want to run. Linux? nothing but problems.

I had a Windows 10 System. Switched to Linux for about 6 months to test and compare it. Linux is NOT worth the switch (at least right now) .

Sure I guess it's free so you can't complain too much but so is Windows 10. If you have any computer knowledge at all you can locate the Windows 10 iso file for free.

Save yourself the time and effort.

nonsense. windows needs lots of fooling around and settings done. a common piece of advice from windows experts is to wipe the disk and reinstall windows and everything else. how can that possibly be described as "it just works"?



windows also requires use of the command line for various tasks. windows requires many hours of screwing around to get things working. you are living in fantasy land where you open up a new windows computer and everything works great and you never have to do any admin work on it.

in the real world a popular piece of advice to fix windows problems is "wipe your hard disk and reinstall windows and all your other software".

Linux is sooo far ahead of windows it's not even funny. Windows 10 is so annoying and slow I can't bear to log into it. The worst is the fact that now it just randomly reboots and takes forever to load up another massive security fix.

Linux plays most of my games flawlessly. Civilization 5, Divinity original sin, every Valve game, Age of Wonders 3, Pillars of Eternity, Middle Earth Shadow of Mordor and many many more.

Through Gog I can even run old dos games like heroes 3. There are no windows software titles I need that do not have better counterparts on linux, and it's so much easier to install software on linux and know that it's going to work, thanks to standard software repositories.

The only thing exclusive to windows right now are some software by the increasingly irrelevant adobe, and voice recognition software.

1. 91.8 percent of PC users use Windows

2. We are talking about personal computers not servers.
The average user doesn't care about servers and they don't care about servers.

3. Why do you care about spying? Do you really think microsoft cares about you or what you do? Stop being paranoid. Do you have stuff to hide?

4. Secure it what way? My Windows system has been secure and Virus free since I got it.

absolute bullshit LIE!
maybe you, cause you're stupid.

No, it's not a popular peice of advice. Whoever said that is any idiot and you go to the wrong places for advice. So you got bad tech support so Windows sucks? nice logic.

I never have to use the command line for anything. Name something that a day-to-day user would use it for.

I haven't had any program or game not work on windows? Wasn't the case on linux. Nothing ever worked. So what do you mean?

Those are mostly old and outdated games.

Where is the support for new games?

1. who cares, if you love windows so much, use windows.

2. who cares, if you love windows so much, use windows. other people can use linux for almost everything. you dont care!

3. who cares. if youre an average user that only wants to use windows then go ahead and only use windows. other people can do what they want.

4. who cares. so what you ran a computer for a few years and it didn't explode. do you want a medal for that?

many people use linux for many things. your very limited use of a windows computer for a very limited range of tasks does not make you a computer expert.

if you don't want to use linux, go ahead and don't use it. problem solved.

if you aren't lying, you have had the most amazing windows user experience ever!!!

YOU HAVE NEVER HAD ANY PROGRAM OR GAME NOT WORK ON WINDOWS!!!!!!!

Absolutely amazing!

"How long would Windows last if Linux Mint became mainstream?"

This is actually an illogical question.
It is Linux that is holding Linux back from being mainstream.

The inherent inferiority of the user experience with Linux is what holds it back.
Your question is like asking, how long would cars last if the horse and carriage were better?

Don't get me wrong.
I've been hoping that Linux would go mainstream. However, repeatedly I have to face the fact that Linux is a fucking pain in the ass to deal with, even Ubuntu.

Despite that, I like Linux and have been using Linux for a decade.
Out of the entirety of my friends and family, I am the one who is the most technologically savvy, by far.

And, I am the only one who makes the effort to use Linux.
No one else even has a clue what Linux is or that there is such a thing called Linux. They are all everyday kind of people and they know literally nothing of this thing called Linux.

How in the world can Linux ever expect to go mainstream?

I don't like windows 10 for the simple fact they force you to have automatic updates that can screw up your system and it has happened to users and this constant sending of info out hogging your internet connection and interfering with your work with nagging updates. That is not a friendly operating system when it spies on you to serve up ads to you. Plus you can't really shut off the spying. It continues to spy on you and send data even when you turn things off. Windows 10 would have been a nice operating system if it didn't spy on you constantly and force updates on you.

Support for linux games is ever increasing. I actually believe windows days are numbered. Most people are using linux or BSD now anyway in the form of android, Mac and ios.

A lot of new titles start on linux. For example Hitman, Ark Survival evolved, Total War Warhammer, and a lot more...

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I'm so glad I rarely boot into that horrific mess known as windows. It's linux mint for me. Microsoft just wants to control everything , yet even their default settings make no sense. Also don't forget their default settings essentially make them an NSA node collecting information for the oligarchy.

This is all true.

The best you can do is make the effort to turn everything that you can off, and uninstall every app and trial program you can find (that you do not use).

Turn off sharing, turn off app updates, turn off coriander or whatever her name is, then look through all of your settings menus and turn off, off, off.

I have had to roll back updates that screwed up my windows 10 machine, just like you say.

It's maddening at times.

Windows 10 behaves like malware and the awful thing is almost all the computers sold in retail stores has that awful malware installed. They don't give consumers a choice. If you want Linux or some other operating system you have to install it yourself and take the time to screw around and try and get things right. Consumers should be offered more choice in terms of operating systems. Microsoft has a retail monopoly that needs to be broken.

Even worse is almost all computers sold in retail stores come with that malware. They are not giving people a choice in terms of operating systems.

Take a look at these.

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This is why Linux will never be mainstream.

All the Linux nerds in the world cannot come up with a simple, default install procedure for Linux, with the option to do a custom install for the experts. This is not acceptable for an OS which yearns to become the desktop of choice.

Most computer users don't want to mess around, they want to do what they bought the computer to do in the first place.

The arrogance and condescension of many Linux users on forums is a real turn off. If they are so scornful of novice users they should stay on the pro forums. The lack of professionalism is resounding.

Users of severely limited computer skills can (given no security issues) use Windows, backup Windows, hook up to a Windows VPN, install new software, etc.

For all the scorn for Windows, the fact is that the same is not true for Linux.

This is why, despite massive security risks many Windows users play a daily game of security Russian roulette just to use their computers without having to design the damned thing from the ground up.

I love Mint. I would use it all the time if it wasn't like pulling teeth to get a simple application installed.

Linux can't have it both ways, they are either going to go with offering a decent interface that covers standard computing operations or they are going to stay marginalized.

Edit to add:
Most Windows users never use the command line. In fact probably don't even know what it is.

Last Edited by Lily o' the Valley on 03/09/2017 07:28 PM

Linux doesn't need or want you but thanks for trolling.

Everything you posted is completely inaccurate and if you can't install software on Linux Mint (?!?) (especially the Ubuntu based one) then you need to go to your local toy store and get one of those fisher-price computers for 2 year olds. I know seniors that can't operate their TV consistently that are using Linux Mint on a daily basis with no problems.

Enjoy your Windows machine and quit worrying about it. Nobody is begging you to use Linux anyways.

I Switched to Robolinux, love it! , freaking fast for my old computer both boot up and down , acts like a Mac , your right about the video and sound drivers for new video cards , have to wait , they have set up installers for programs but is very limited, but they have windows virtual machine to run windows within the OS.

linux mint sucks, try a real OS like
Slackware
Gentoo
Funtoo
or even fedora (although systemd sucks ma balls)

opengl is improving more and more and now with vulcan they are close to directx preformance. more and more games are released on cross platform.

but microsoft is 100% paying people off to make games only for windows.

still operating systems are only tools. i understand people like most of you only do web browsing and nothing more rly.

windows is good for many things as is linux. mac is great too

Love linux mint

About to start playing around with Kali in vm. See how that goes.