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TRAPPED LIKE A RAT: The Obama Administration "Looks To Be In Very Serious Legal Trouble"

 
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Obama Administration Looks To Be In Very Serious Legal Trouble

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There is a lot of breaking news this weekend as the nation learns that a sitting President (Obama) looks to have used the nation’s national security apparatus – which is empowered to protect this nation from foreign enemies and threats – for crass political gain (read “personal gain”). If this is even partially true, this would be Watergate on steroids and irreparably tarnish the Obama administration for all history.

These high stakes may also explain the irrational fear and hate by the democrat leadership we have seen in their scorched-Earth actions since the election. Events may be unraveling on them big time, events that started last summer in a very different world.

Let’s begin by setting down a hard and fast rule to blunt the coming weasel words from team Obama. The President runs his administration. The President’s cabinet has some individual authority, but they confirm with the Commander-in-Chief anything that could erupt back on them either legally or politically. No cabinet member – especially the Attorney General – would run near or across legal or ethical lines without concurrence (i.e., cover from) the top person.

To say Obama did not “order” the “wire tap” against the Trump campaign is as ridiculous as it sounds. Note: Trump used figurative parentheses when he tweeted “wire tap”, so read that as meaning “surveillance” legally.


It is not like the Captain of a ship actually “weigh’s the anchor” themselves! Captains order it be done. Or more accurately, it is one step of a process that has been established by the command chain so that when the Captain orders the ship to prepare to “get under way” this action is taken. However executed, the Captain is legally responsible for the people under him, and any mistakes they make. This would include any issues or damage done “weighing” the anchors.

So when someone tries to split hairs about who ordered the surveillance on Team Trump, remember this:

First, as Obama officials well know, under the FISA process, it is technically the FISA court that “orders” surveillance. And by statute, it is the Justice Department, not the White House, that represents the government in proceedings before the FISA court.
The fact is no one would be dumb enough to run afoul of the laws protecting the American People from our intelligence apparatus without top cover – because these represent very, very serious crimes. So let’s stop pretending AG Lynch did this on her own. If this happened, it was all coordinated.

We also need to start with specifying which laws were broken, and then get to the all critical timeline – because that is where we will discover how thin the ice is under Team Obama.

The best overview of the laws broken is here, and the following excerpts summarize the issues our nation faces. To understand the issues one must understand the very narrow and special role the FISA Court and our Intelligence Apparatus plays in our nation. Because of its special powers, it is very restricted on what it can do.

Rather shockingly, no law currently forbids misusing the power of the presidency to spy on one’s adversaries. What the law does forbid is lying to any judicial officer to obtain any means of surveillance. What the law does forbid, under criminal penalty, is the misuse of FISA. Both derive from the protections of the Fourth Amendment itself. Under section 1809, FISA makes it a crime for anyone to either “engage in” electronic surveillance under “color of law” under FISA without following the law’s restrictions, or “disclose” or “use” information gathered from it in contravention of the statute’s sharp constrictions.

Emphasis mine. As we deal with this explosive situation, remember the core issue. It is not run-of-the-mill political skulduggery (is there any other kind?). It is the criminal misuse of a critical national defensive capability. Liken it to using a military weapon against your political opponent, because that is the nearest and best analogy. If Obama ordered the military to intervene with Team Trump during the election, that would not be much different from using the intelligence powers to intervene. This is not on the same level as using the IRS to target political opponents – not by a long shot.

Why is this the case? Because the FISA court operates outside the US Constitution, and therefore any misuse is much more serious:

FISA, 50 USC 1801, et seq., is a very limited method of obtaining surveillance authority. The reason for its strict limits is that FISA evades the regular federal court process, by not allowing regularly, Constitutionally appointed federal judges and their magistrates to authorize surveillance the Fourth Amendment would otherwise forbid. Instead, the Chief Justice handpicks the FISA court members, who have shown an exceptional deference to the executive branch. This is because FISA court members trust the government is only bringing them surveillance about pending terror attacks or “grave hostile” war-like attacks, as the FISA statute limits itself to. Thus, a FISA application can only be used in very limited circumstances.

Again, emphasis mine. The capability to use our intelligence resources against any entity is restricted to critical national security. These resources are NOT to be applied for other legal matters, such as questionable business interests, hacking computers, etc. This is important because the evidence seems to show Team Obama tried to abuse these resources – and were rebuffed!

FISA can only be used for “foreign intelligence information.” … The only “foreign intelligence information” allowed as a basis for surveillance is information necessary to protect the United States against actual or potential “grave” “hostile” attack, war-like sabotage or international terror. Second, it can only be used to eavesdrop on conversations where the parties to the conversation are a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power. An agent of a foreign power cannot be a United States person unless they are knowingly involved in criminal espionage. No warrant is allowed on that person unless a FISA court finds probable cause the United States person is knowingly engaged in criminal espionage. Even then, if it involves a United States person, special steps must be taken to “minimize the acquisition and retention, and prohibit the dissemination, of non publicly available information concerning un-consenting United States persons.”

This is the crux of Obama’s legal trouble. In order to legally capture information about members of the Trump Campaign (one of which was a sitting Senator), then retain it and distribute it, the reason would have to border on high crimes and treason – not “discussions” or “hacking” or “business transactions”. Even coordinating national policies and treaties with foreign leaders would not rise to the level of urgency required to invoke these intelligence resources.

To summarize, it is Team Obama’s collection, retention and distribution of information protected by the US Constitution that constitute the high crimes here, specifically when it pertains to members of Trump’s campaign, emphasized here:

This includes procedures that require they never identify the person, or the conversation, being surveilled, to the public where that information is not evidence of a particular crime.

Since the Fake News media has been reporting these very same details to the public, and citing current and former Obama administration sources, it is not debatable on whether laws were broken. They were.

Bottom line: this should never have happened:

At the outset, the NSA should have never been involved in a domestic US election. Investigating the election, or any hacking of the DNC or the phishing of Podesta’s emails, would not be a FISA matter. It does not fit the definition of war sabotage or a “grave” “hostile” war-like attack on the United States, as constrictively covered by FISA. It is your run-of-the-mill hacking case covered by existing United States laws that require use of the regular departments of the FBI, Department of Justice, and Constitutionally Senate-appointed federal district court judges, and their appointed magistrates, not secretive, deferential FISA courts.

So how did this happen? How did our extensive intelligence apparatus come to be misused against members of the Trump campaign?

Well, the simplest answer seems to be Team Obama misled the courts:

This raises the second problem: Obama’s team submission of an affidavit to to the FISA court. An application for a warrant of any kind requires an affidavit, and that affidavit may not omit material factors. A fact is “material” if it could have the possible impact of impacting the judicial officer deciding whether to authorize the warrant. Such affidavits are the most carefully drawn up, reviewed, and approved affidavits of law enforcement in our system precisely because they must be fully-disclosing, forthcoming, and include any information a judge must know to decide whether to allow our government to spy on its own. My assumption would be that intelligence officials were trying to investigate hacking of DNC which is not even a FISA covered crime, so therefore serious questions arise about what Obama administration attorneys said to the FISA court to even consider the application. If the claim was “financial ties” to Russia, then Obama knew he had no basis to use FISA at all.

Since Trump was the obvious target, the alleged failure to disclose his name in the second application could be a serious and severe violation of the obligation to disclose all material facts.

President Trump now owns the records of the United States of America. One thing he and his Attorney General (former Senator Sessions) can get their hands on are these affidavits to the FISA Court. If they are as damning as some believe they must be, then Team Obama is going to be in serious trouble.

Remember, back when this all started no one believed Trump would win and be given the keys to all the evidence lockers. Which is why one has to ask why did Team Obama double down in January and push the laws even further?

Team Obama has a responsibility to the FISA Court to not disclose any information on US Citizens accidentally caught up in a surveillance activity, but this is what they began doing in January 2017. This may be the second smoking gun – diligently reported by the Fake News media.

That raises the third problem: it seems the FISA-compelled protocols for precluding the dissemination of the information were violated, and that Obama’s team issued orders to achieve precisely what the law forbids, if published reports are true about the administration sharing the surveilled information far-and-wide to promote unlawful leaks to the press.This, too, would be its own crime, as it brings back the ghost of Hillary’s emails — by definition, FISA information is strictly confidential or it’s information that never should have been gathered. FISA strictly segregates its surveilled information into two categories: highly confidential information of the most serious of crimes involving foreign acts of war; or, if not that, then information that should never have been gathered, should be immediately deleted, and never sourced nor disseminated. It cannot be both.

Recognizing this information did not fit FISA meant having to delete it and destroy it. According to published reports, Obama’s team did the opposite: order it preserved, ordered the NSA to search it, keep it, and share it; and then Obama’s Attorney General issued an order to allow broader sharing of information and, according to the New York Times, Obama aides acted to label the Trump information at a lower level of classification for massive-level sharing of the information. The problem for Obama is simple — if it could fit a lower level of classification, then it had to be deleted and destroyed, not disseminated and distributed, under crystal clear FISA law.

There is much more in the article, so please take the time to read the whole thing.

This is about as open-and-shut as you can get in my humble opinion. All this has been faithfully reported (i.e., corroborated) by the Fake News media – citing sources. Along with the internal trail of documents the government is required to keep, it would seem Team Obama has a real problem on their hands.

So let’s visit the timeline of events (best one can be found here), and recall that when all this started Hillary was a shoe-in as the next POTUS. Therefore she would be able to keep a lid on all the critical internal government documents Team Trump now has unfettered access to.

June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.
Note that the article above identifies a prior attempt to gain surveillance through the normal criminal courts process, before this event. This is one month prior to the RNC and DNC conventions. At this time Trump as POTUS seems to be pure fantasy.

This prior attempt is confirmed (supposedly independently) by Andrew McCarthy:

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I'll believe it when I see it.

After all, Hillary's still walking free.
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Exactly this!

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Until Hillary's in prison for life or publicly executed this is all just political theater as far as I'm concerned.
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This right here^

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The key word is "foreign."

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I'll believe it when I see it.

After all, Hillary's still walking free.
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I'm sure Trump will be putting his daughter's best friend's mother in the slammer any day now. Oh wait, he said "we don't care about that anymore, right?" after campaigning and winning on it. But we have to wait until Sessions is confirmed. Oh wait, he just can't seem to get anything done with a republican majority in congress and simply being the President of the US is just NOT ENOUGH!

He's only the President! He's playing 10,000 dimensional quantum physics so we'll just have to wait. He's only been President for _________.
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Thank you for the excellent summary OP. How will the American public ever become truly informed about this with msm doing misleading 6 second sound bytes?
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Even if Hilldog was rung up she would just fly to China becoming china citizen while in the air and untouchable
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Thank you for the excellent summary OP. How will the American public ever become truly informed about this with msm doing misleading 6 second sound bytes?
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The answer, Isis One: None. Noone is supposed to be informed at any given time but the Illuminati and Freemasons.
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The doubt and cynicism is noted.

However, this is a different situation. There's a new Sheriff in town, and he's a lot smarter than drug-addled Obama, and Jeff Sessions is now well into the process of draining the DOJ swamp.

The MSM is doing their best to dance, deflect and distract Americans away from this mess of Obama's. But as more is revealed, even the MSM won't be able to hide the truth anymore.

Be patient.
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I'll believe it when I see it.

After all, Hillary's still walking free.
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Its about time that happened.
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The doubt and cynicism is noted.

However, this is a different situation. There's a new Sheriff in town, and he's a lot smarter than drug-addled Obama, and Jeff Sessions is now well into the process of draining the DOJ swamp.

The MSM is doing their best to dance, deflect and distract Americans away from this mess of Obama's. But as more is revealed, even the MSM won't be able to hide the truth anymore.

Be patient.
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I'll believe it when I see it.

After all, Hillary's still walking free.
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Before it was: had to wait for him to become President. Then it was "hes playing 10D chess" have to wait until Sessions is in. He'll still go after Hillary. Now Sessions is in and they just can't seem to get anything done with their majority congress and the President apparently has zero power all of a sudden. And now it's "we just have to wait". More waiting. He's only been president for ______.


No more patience. It's all a rich boy show for the peasants. They're playing 1D checkers against the public and winning.

It's all a left vs right tag team fake fight.

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I can live with Hillary never going to prison, she is an old lady who losing the Presidency is probably worst to her psyche than going to the slammer.

But if he can put Obama away that would totally make up for it, he is still young with an ego and basically wrecked this country personally while Hillary just took her table scraps along the way.
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I'll believe it when I see it.

After all, Hillary's still walking free.
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I'm sure Trump will be putting his daughter's best friend's mother in the slammer any day now. Oh wait, he said "we don't care about that anymore, right?" after campaigning and winning on it. But we have to wait until Sessions is confirmed. Oh wait, he just can't seem to get anything done with a republican majority in congress and simply being the President of the US is just NOT ENOUGH!

He's only the President! He's playing 10,000 dimensional quantum physics so we'll just have to wait. He's only been President for _________.
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I can live with Hillary never going to prison, she is an old lady who losing the Presidency is probably worst to her psyche than going to the slammer.

But if he can put Obama away that would totally make up for it, he is still young with an ego and basically wrecked this country personally while Hillary just took her table scraps along the way.
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Anything Trump wants, eh?
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on the flip side there is this shit!



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I'll believe it when I see it.

After all, Hillary's still walking free.
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Exactly.

We saw dozens of threads here on GLP (and other places), that stated Hillary was for sure getting prosecuted.
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Barry Soetoro will be in Gitmo before the year is out.
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The doubt and cynicism is noted.

However, this is a different situation. There's a new Sheriff in town, and he's a lot smarter than drug-addled Obama, and Jeff Sessions is now well into the process of draining the DOJ swamp.

The MSM is doing their best to dance, deflect and distract Americans away from this mess of Obama's. But as more is revealed, even the MSM won't be able to hide the truth anymore.

Be patient.
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like the one attorney general refusing to resign...it shows the other side is worried about Sessions and the numerous investigations at his fingertips that include: Fast & Furious, Benghazi, Clinton Foundation, Clinton emails, Weiner laptop, pedogate, Clinton selling uranium via back channels, Clinton selling tech secrets to Russia, Foreign lobyists and the foundations, etc.
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The doubt and cynicism is noted.

However, this is a different situation. There's a new Sheriff in town, and he's a lot smarter than drug-addled Obama, and Jeff Sessions is now well into the process of draining the DOJ swamp.

The MSM is doing their best to dance, deflect and distract Americans away from this mess of Obama's. But as more is revealed, even the MSM won't be able to hide the truth anymore.

Be patient.
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You know why you keep deleting my posts and banning me?

Cause you're job is to prop up this bs lie for these rich boys.

No more patience for this fake fight rich boy show.
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Nah, you want to know the REAL reason your posts keep getting deleted and you're banned?

It's because you're a numbnuts shill.

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I'll believe it when I see it.

After all, Hillary's still walking free.
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Yes, only low level people get prosecuted and convicted.
Obama is not and will never face any consequences of any illegal activity. Presidents in the United States are "excluded from having to follow the law".
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