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This is kind of a different booby-trap!

" Elements in the U.S. military in touch with Bob and Dave have discovered that Beijing has rigged those decks to insure China's supremacy in any showdown with the United States. This has been accomplished by ensuring that its exported semiconductors used in many U.S. military computer and electronic components-from cellphones to missile warheads, fighter jets, frigates, radars, laptops and carriers-can be either accidentally or purposefully deactivated by a silent and invisible electromagnetic pulse delivered at the start of any future conflict. "

Faulty Chips Could Cripple Bush Attack On

William Thomas

February 23, 2007

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Have "designed-to-fail" microchips set up the United States naval, air and ground units in the Persian Gulf for a disastrous defeat in Bush's looming showdown with Iran? Has a Wal-Mart mentality, and corporate sleight-of-hand fatally undermined the U.S. war machine with microscopic flaws?

Following this website's revelations of Israel's recent abortive nuclear air strike on Iran, agents of the United States military intelligence community have returned to visit my informant to disclose disturbing developments.

During their longest and most cooperate briefing to date, the two agents-nicknamed "Bob" and "Dave"-said that they, their government, and major antagonists powers in the Middle East are being manipulated by elements as yet unknown, to the detriment of all involved.

"Once they found this out, they started asking questions, hoping to defuse a larger issue before it turns into a catastrophe," explained a trusted source I have come to call "Hank". During our 15- year collaboration, this combat veteran with a high security clearance has shown himself to be impeccably measured and accurate in his timely revelations. Curious, conscious, careful, and well-connected-as well as technically savvy in computers, chemical warfare and physics, you can take his information to the proverbial bank. And charge interest.

Throughout our long association, Hank's contacts within U.S. and international military, intelligence, political and religious circles have rarely ruffled his professional aplomb. This time, he was as shaken by his formerly adversarial visitors' plea for his assistance, as he was by their briefing.

As Hank expressed it, Bob and Dave "felt that they were on the pointed end of a broken, splintered spear repaired with Elmer's glue and then reshaped again. It was a bad day. Bad day. They were not in really good humor. It seems they have had a couple of things crop up they decided to share. Nobody gets more worried about sharing with me than me."

When the agents departed 45 minutes later, Hank made a series of calls to check their information. He quickly verified that the United States military's war-fighting capability is undermined by an unfixable flaw.


?PLAYING POKER WITH CHINA'S CHIPS

It is widely documented that since the secession of America's semiconductor supremacy to Asia, most computer chips supplied for civilian and military use in the United States by corporate giants like AMD, Microsoft, Intel and Motorola are now imported. As Hank was reminded by his visitors, "It's all outsourced"-by U.S. manufacturers to suppliers in Japan, Taiwan and China.

Electronic components made to military specifications in Taiwan and Japan are good to go. But U.S. military microchip suppliers have in recent years been "sharing components from a single source manufactured over there in the Big C," Hank learned. And chips manufactured in mainland China for use by the United States military are-surprise!-not OK.

Regarding the marine assault force, three aircraft carriers and their escorts about to wage war on Iran, Hank was told, "We really don't know which components are installed in U.S. Navy weapons systems."

Elements in the U.S. military in touch with Bob and Dave have discovered that Beijing has rigged those decks to insure China's supremacy in any showdown with the United States. This has been accomplished by ensuring that its exported semiconductors used in many U.S. military computer and electronic components-from cellphones to missile warheads, fighter jets, frigates, radars, laptops and carriers-can be either accidentally or purposefully deactivated by a silent and invisible electromagnetic pulse delivered at the start of any future conflict.


BETTING IN A RIGGED CASINO

Bob and Dave had returned to Hank's house to ask this army tech with a flair for thinking outside the conventional military mindset how this could have happened.

The answer is that electronic components made by companies in Taiwan, Japan and the U.S.A. for the U.S. military are often wired with chips made by their subsidiaries in China. By 2005, after nearly a decade of explosive electronics growth, China surpassed the United States to dominate the world IT (information technology) market with annual exports exceeding $180 billion. Foreign firms have driven much of China's growth, with "heavy investment" from U.S. giants like Intel, Motorola and Microsoft." [International Herald Tribune Dec 12/05]

Today, China's advanced computer chips run everything from civilian rice cookers to military communications, surveillance, and missile guidance systems. Companies like Semiconductor Manufacturing International and Grace Semiconductor can use lasers to etch circuitry as intricate as an interstate highway network onto nano-thin wafers less than one one-hundredth the width of a human hair. And that was five years ago. According to one online industry publication, Chinese circuitry is now used "in the smallest, fastest and most powerful computer chips in world." [www.hpcwire.com May 10/02]

Elecsound Electronics Company is another Chinese manufacturer specializing in semiconductors "widely used in communication, satellites, mobile phone and wireless telephones" assembled by U.S. military suppliers such as Intel and Motorola. Like many Chinese semiconductor firms, Elecsound also supplies Japanese companies such as NEC, Sanyo and Toshiba, which in turn make electronic components for the Pentagon's smartest weapons. [www.made-in-china.com]

The outsourcing tangle also leads through Taiwan, where companies like ProMos Technologies, Powerchip Semiconductor and Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing are exporting "Made In Taiwan" DRAM chips and other components to U.S. firms from their newly built manufacturing plants on mainland China. [IDG News Service Nov 16/06]

The world's second largest custom chip maker, United Microelectronics no longer sends genuine "Made In Taiwan" chips to the USA. UM was recently fined a wrist-slapping $155,000 by the government of Taiwan for helping to establish an advanced microchip company in China without first gaining Taipei's approval. [IDGNews Service Feb 16/06]

Not all transfers of chip-making technology to China have been legal. According to the Center for Nonproliferation Studies in Monterey, California, the rapid rise of Shanghai-based Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation (SMIC) has involved repeated patent violations and "illegal transfers of technology allegedly originating in Taiwan." [Asian Export Control Observer Feb- Mar /05]

Launched in Shanghai in 2000, the Taiwan-invested $1.48 billion SMIC is actually controlled by Beijing, whose mandarins insist on 11 "public relations officers" to keep them informed. SMI has supplied third party Chinese chips to the U.S. military through such recognized suppliers as Motorola. Company chairman Yang Yuan Wang is a Chief Scientist of the Microelectronics Research Institute at Beijing University and a fellow of the Chinese Academy of Sciences and The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. He is also a Chinese government official.

Motorola sold its $115 million stake in SMIC in February 2005. [US China Economic and Security Review Commission Hearing March 17/06]

Even more troubling, documents declassified in 2003 show that after the Democratic Party received illegal cash campaign contributions from the Red Army, then-President Bill Clinton signed a November 1996 waiver authorizing the transfer to China of specialized chips needed to wage nuclear war. The high-tech "Chinagate" transfers not only allowed China "to more accurately target American cities with atomic weapons using advanced U.S technology," as Charles Smith disclosed, but also allowed China to later sell advanced chips back to the U.S. military-rigged with a fatal flaw. [www.newsmax.com Feb 15/07]


A STRATEGIC THREAT

During the US China Economic and Security Review Commission Hearing held in Washington D.C. last year, John Tkacik, Jr., a Senior Research Fellow in Asian Studies at the Heritage Foundation, pointed to Defense Science Board report on "High Performance Microchip Supply" issued 13 months before, which called "the strategic threat to the United States" in semiconductors "significant" in two ways:

1) The globalization of the microchip supply chain is draining production capacity from the United States and in a crisis it would be difficult to ramp up domestic output.

2) There is a real threat that microchip supplies from overseas-particularly from China-would be untrustworthy; that "opportunities for adversaries to clandestinely manipulate technology used in U.S. critical microelectronics applications are enormous and increasing."


Testifying on March 17, 2006 Tkacik went on to remark, "Not only is the Pentagon finding fewer and fewer sources for application specific integrated circuit microchips for highly classified defense applications (such as signals processing, encryption, guidance systems, etc.), but the U.S. military already relies heavily on China for the bulk of the nervous system of our network-centric warfare doctrine."

Pointing to a "global supply-chain" delivering Chinese chips everywhere, Tkacik asked, "How can saying that the United States simply won't buy Chinese-made chips for its military be sufficient? "

As microcircuitry architecture continues to shrink, becoming "orders of magnitude denser," this expert warned, "it becomes ever easier to hide lines that serve as Trojan Horse circuit designs, radio-frequency receivers and other 'backdoors' to circumvent encryption, muddle signals, induce data failure"- leaving supposedly "hardened" circuits vulnerable to EMP.

"Are Chinese semiconductor firms capable of such chicanery?" Tkacik asked the U.S. government panel. "There are already several hundred semiconductor design labs in China-sponsored and paid-for by foreign firms including America's top microchip corporations."
[US China Economic and Security Review Commission Hearing March 17/06]


BLOWBACK

Right now, no one serving onboard a U.S. warship, manning a tank, or flying a fighter in the Persian Gulf can know for certain where the microswitches conveying electrical impulses to their communications, surveillance and fire-control systems originate. Or whether they will turn into powder in an EMP.

In order to harden military electronics against an electromagnetic pulse from a nuclear detonation or directed energy weapon, chips and circuit boards assembled to United States military specifications are not encased in a protective shell. Instead, they are etched with thicker wiring that Hank described as "the equivalent of a 30-amp fuse as thick as your thumb."

This thicker circuitry, "reduces reaction time to an electromagnetic pulse by shutting off the circuit faster."

Instead of adhering to "milspecs", my source was informed and has since confirmed that Chinese chips inadvertently used in many U.S. military applications have been booby-trapped with EMP- sensitive circuitry equivalent of a civilian-size "3-amp fuse, the size of a wire in a light bulb."

Regardless of it's "dual use" in civilian and military applications, Hank emphasized, "a transistor is a transistor. The U.S. military for example is using essentially the same AMD 64X2 chip being manufactured for civilian use. They say it's shielded. It ain't."

While specially-made circuit boards for the helmet-mounted fire- control system in an Apache helicopter are robust enough to be stomped on, the millions upon millions of chips and motherboards permeating high-tech U.S. military equipment-from laptops purchased at the local Circuit City to Patriot missiles supplied by Raytheon-"can't all be tested."

The glitch was discovered during a routine rear-area inspection. Technicians working in a shielded "womb" room thought the component they were testing was hardened. But Hank learned from his visitors that when their readouts started blinking, and they were still wondering, "What the heck could have done this?"- monitoring equipment "used across the womb room also went bust."

Since those remote monitors were not part of the test, this should not have happened.

When the alarmed techs ran further experiments, "they found that the A----- brands had that fatal flaw in it," he related (brand name redacted by this reporter). "They started reverse engineering and breaking it down as best as they could, and they found a fatal flaw in each component."

As Hank put it, "Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action."

Rest of the elaborate article here:
[link to www.rense.com]
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Hey folks that's huge if true, and quite imaginable that the Chinese would do something like this.
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Of course its HUGE!

Bob and Dave and "elements" from military touching each other and on the tv there was this like orgy-licious thing of them all in white underwear kissing and rubbing up against each other.

Don't you think Bob and Dave were too often "your source" lately?
Derek One Seven (Viable Light Being) on Spiritual warfare thread:

quote 1: 20-40, you seem to take a page out of Nazi Joesph Goebbells', and Adolf Hitler's handbooks (about need to repeat a lie) THEN:
quote 2: 20-40, it is of no surprise to me that you, an obviously concienceless pervert.
quote 3: 20-40, it is of no surprise to me that you, an obviously concienceless pervert.
quote 4: and you are a liar, with admitted connections to the CIA.
quote 5: you are a hypocritical pervert, with admitted connections to the CIA.
quote 6: you are an obvious concienceless hypocrite and pervert, 20-40.

Over and over and over and over. Same post with few sentences added or omitted, same lies and whatever I have tried to say, he has ignored it, and keep posting the same.
BTW, I swear on bible that I have never tried to warn him about misspelled word "concienceless".
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Some will bitch as usual but thanks for the pin mod whoever it was!

I think this is one of the most significant factors if true.
Rigging up all the electronic stuff they use in military target seeking devices would make the real war winner.
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where have we heard this b4, y2k perhaps? lol!!!
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Both Russia and China will attack the whole Amero Union by moving in a hidden valley in Alaska.

When they do this Amero will not be aware of China and Russia.

But huge meteors will come crashing down on them, taking them all out...

Not trying to hyjack your posting Dil.

What I am saying in a vision in 1998 this was shown to me.

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For Pete's sake...

Any solid state component at any time since they were invented has been suceptible to EMP...

It is no 'sinsiter' Chinese plot...

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For Pete's sake...

Any solid state component at any time since they were invented has been suceptible to EMP...

It is no 'sinsiter' Chinese plot...

1rof1
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It's clear you didn't read the article at all.
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It's clear you didn't read the article at all.
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It's clear that you know nothing about EMP...

From your article:

This reporter has learned that the United States military communications, surveillance and weapons systems are using Chinese semiconductors that can be accidentally or purposefully deactivated by an electromagnetic pulse delivered at the start of a conflict.

Gee...Ya think?

chuckle

You don't think that an EMP is in our plans to disrupt other people's equipment?

'Hardening' solid state circuits only goes so far...Try using that wonderous new invention called 'Google', and look up Faraday and his cute little cages and how they pertain to EMP...
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For Pete's sake...

Any solid state component at any time since they were invented has been suceptible to EMP...

It is no 'sinsiter' Chinese plot...

1rof1


It's clear you didn't read the article at all.
 Quoting: Dilatoriness


Look around you today. See the China invasion?
Sit at a train crossing and count the China cars going by.

What you are posting Dil. is just a small portion of what really is going on.
The trojen horse was brought in years ago. And slowly China has been taking over this country. Look on the news about how congress is being paid off by other countries.

America has become the slaves of others and we love it by buying all of China's items.

Now, even the electronics for security is being made by other countries for all levels of American government and private companies.

I personally appreciate your posting Dil.
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The electronics were supposed to be EMP hardened but they have a deliberately built in back door so read this for your understanding:

Responding after further investigation to further queries from this reporter, Hank used slang to reveal his stress when he flatly declared, "The stuff that's 'hardened' ain't. The stuff that's 'safe' ain't."

This means that in the event of an attack launched by the United States against Iran, an electromagnetic pulse from a deliberate or accidental nuclear detonation-or from a directed energy weapon manned by Chinese technicians defending their country's interests ashore-will cause many or most American offensive and defensive missile systems to fail to fire, explode on launch, or not detonate on target. Some weapons may even emulate WWII torpedoes and Vietnam- era Sidewinders and boomerang back on the ship, plane or vehicle that launched them.

And:
IMPOSSIBLE TO FIX

Any detonation of Bush's beloved "low yield" bunker-buster, an Iranian nuclear power plant, or shipboard reactor "could deactivate the U.S. Navy," as Hank put it-along with all other command, control, communications and weapons circuits quietly humming in some forgotten but vital piece of equipment aloft, afloat or alongshore in the Persian Gulf.

To rig the Trojan chips, "pick a frequency that isn't in nature above 23,000 hertz or below 2 hertz at power levels only you can produce," Hank invited. Jackie the sailor would not be able to misdial her sonar and shut down the entire fleet because "the pressure and wattage, as well as the frequency equivalent to an EMP" would be needed to do melt all those microchips. And that "could only come from a nuclear blast," Hank added.

Or a pulse weapon. Hank was also informed that if attacked, Chinese technicians in Iran could make every vulnerable circuit within range "melt when hit by a microwave" tuned to their vulnerable frequency.
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Will Thomas is one of the original inventors of the "chem-trail" hoax, too.

Just like Thomas relies on the ignorance of his readers to believe that persistent contrails are really a Huge and Malevolent Secret Plot, he figures that, since 99 percent of his readers don't understand that every semiconductor is susceptible to EMP, it would make exciting reading and keep him in the public eye.

The fact is that just about every military product that uses any kind of solid state components is shielded against EMP for just that reason, just like photovoltaic arrays are protected against being fried by lightning strikes by super-rapid grounding circuitry. Thomas and Rense, although they're both slimeballs, aren't stupid; they know this. But they also know that if they did anything as prosaic as telling the whole truth, the wuwuz would no longer be titillated and wouldn't listen to them any more.

But is what Thomas and Rense say a lie? No.

It's like the website that came out four or five years ago about the "dangers" of DHMO. Everything in that website is true, but, if you never took high school chemistry, you wouldn't realize that it was water they were talking about!

Thomas and Rense aim their stuff to people whose last science course was in 8th grade. They figure (rightly, it appears) that just because you don't have any science education doesn't mean you're too poor to buy their books and whatever else it is they hustle on their sites.

And they're right!

Dilatoriness, you've been scammed again.
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Little Star I see it a bit different than you. I say it's the Zionists who hi-jacked America and the Chinese and Russians just have started to effectively counter that world domination threat from the Zionazis.

IMO.

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Look around you today. See the China invasion?
Sit at a train crossing and count the China cars going by.

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Not that I disagree, but...

What does that have to do with that naive story about solid state circuits that are vulnerable to EMP only coming from China?

They ALL are vulnerable to EMP, no matter who makes them or where in the world they are made...Some might survive at 100 miles from ground zero...Some may not survive at 500...

'Hardening' only goes so far...Faraday can even be overcome...
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Duncan smearing the messengers is not about real arguments.
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Look around you today. See the China invasion?
Sit at a train crossing and count the China cars going by.



Not that I disagree, but...

What does that have to do with that naive story about solid state circuits that are vulnerable to EMP only coming from China?

They ALL are vulnerable to EMP, no matter who makes them or where in the world they are made...Some might survive at 100 miles from ground zero...Some may not survive at 500...

'Hardening' only goes so far...Faraday can even be overcome...
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Well I did digress a bit, but it is connected.

And yes EMP can be what is could be used. But, if America attacts first, when does the EMP take effect?

First strike would most likely hit their spot.

Controlling the missles by a chip is easier.

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AC74079:
You obviously don't get it, the chips are altered to react to customized remote high energy electro-magnetic control signals, not only to EMPs:

" This means that in the event of an attack launched by the United States against Iran, an electromagnetic pulse from a deliberate or accidental nuclear detonation-or from a directed energy weapon manned by Chinese technicians defending their country's interests ashore-will cause many or most American offensive and defensive missile systems to fail to fire, explode on launch, or not detonate on target. Some weapons may even emulate WWII torpedoes and Vietnam- era Sidewinders and boomerang back on the ship, plane or vehicle that launched them. "
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Little Star I see it a bit different than you. I say it's the Zionists who hi-jacked America and the Chinese and Russians just have started to effectively counter that world domination threat from the Zionazis.

IMO.

Peace to You in any case.
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I am very aware of the 12 that rule the world. I know China is under their control just as the rest of the world.

So there is no differance between our words Dil.
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Little star, I fully agree on “dragon” threat. But, whole thing from the article is ridicules. THIS thread is ABOUT that – Chinese's supposed ability to take OUT electronic components selectively WITH A – what? Code in it?

My friend, only threat comes from crappy components and I agree that Chinese are manufacturers of those.

Second, MIC guys are well aware of ANYTHING we can imagine, and only threat comes from the people whose corrupted minds will build high technology devices with ideas of cost-cutting or quisling attitude.

I think that this article is founded on fictional premise (besides - EMP weaponry cannot be selective – but it wasn't about that) and however sounds as sobering possibility is merely a fear-mongering, self-centered piece of crap.

I haven't said anything about future, I spoke about this article...

20-40

P.S It's lil' disagreement - or my view on it - my friends, nothing more...
Derek One Seven (Viable Light Being) on Spiritual warfare thread:

quote 1: 20-40, you seem to take a page out of Nazi Joesph Goebbells', and Adolf Hitler's handbooks (about need to repeat a lie) THEN:
quote 2: 20-40, it is of no surprise to me that you, an obviously concienceless pervert.
quote 3: 20-40, it is of no surprise to me that you, an obviously concienceless pervert.
quote 4: and you are a liar, with admitted connections to the CIA.
quote 5: you are a hypocritical pervert, with admitted connections to the CIA.
quote 6: you are an obvious concienceless hypocrite and pervert, 20-40.

Over and over and over and over. Same post with few sentences added or omitted, same lies and whatever I have tried to say, he has ignored it, and keep posting the same.
BTW, I swear on bible that I have never tried to warn him about misspelled word "concienceless".
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Will Thomas is one of the original inventors of the "chem-trail" hoax, too.

Just like Thomas relies on the ignorance of his readers to believe that persistent contrails are really a Huge and Malevolent Secret Plot, he figures that, since 99 percent of his readers don't understand that every semiconductor is susceptible to EMP, it would make exciting reading and keep him in the public eye.

The fact is that just about every military product that uses any kind of solid state components is shielded against EMP for just that reason, just like photovoltaic arrays are protected against being fried by lightning strikes by super-rapid grounding circuitry. Thomas and Rense, although they're both slimeballs, aren't stupid; they know this. But they also know that if they did anything as prosaic as telling the whole truth, the wuwuz would no longer be titillated and wouldn't listen to them any more.

But is what Thomas and Rense say a lie? No.

It's like the website that came out four or five years ago about the "dangers" of DHMO. Everything in that website is true, but, if you never took high school chemistry, you wouldn't realize that it was water they were talking about!

Thomas and Rense aim their stuff to people whose last science course was in 8th grade. They figure (rightly, it appears) that just because you don't have any science education doesn't mean you're too poor to buy their books and whatever else it is they hustle on their sites.

And they're right!

Dilatoriness, you've been scammed again.
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Hey, Duncan, it's nice to have a rational-minded debunker who have been around the corners for many years! Great post, man!

Dilatoriness is a tool of the highest order.
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Dil,

I understand and if they did get away with this its very bad.

Its also stupid if we bought one chip from China for military purpose. We only have stupid military managers to blame. Stupid Stupid

ice
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AC74079:
You obviously don't get it, the chips are altered to react to customized remote high energy electro-magnetic control signals, not only to EMPs:

" This means that in the event of an attack launched by the United States against Iran, an electromagnetic pulse from a deliberate or accidental nuclear detonation-or from a directed energy weapon manned by Chinese technicians defending their country's interests ashore-will cause many or most American offensive and defensive missile systems to fail to fire, explode on launch, or not detonate on target. Some weapons may even emulate WWII torpedoes and Vietnam- era Sidewinders and boomerang back on the ship, plane or vehicle that launched them. "
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I was right...You're just a clueless C&P parrot...

rolleyes
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If true, we deserve it.

Maybe its just me....

But letting China build part of a weapon that might one day be used against them isn't too smart.
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Solution is simple: The military should only buy American made products. That might even revive the manufacturing of electronics and all other goods they use in the USA.

We should not be buying things that are crucial to our defense and safety from foreign sources. The same applies to things like vaccines and medicines which we have allowed and which, in the past, has caused some problems.
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Dilatoriness is a tool of the highest order.
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Hmmm nice argument, lol.
You don't like the US military to be hoodwinked, no?
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I was right...You're just a clueless C&P parrot...

rolleyes
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Of course you're always right, sure. Maybe mom and dad never encouraged you enough.
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AC74079:
You obviously don't get it, the chips are altered to react to customized remote high energy electro-magnetic control signals, not only to EMPs:

" This means that in the event of an attack launched by the United States against Iran, an electromagnetic pulse from a deliberate or accidental nuclear detonation-or from a directed energy weapon manned by Chinese technicians defending their country's interests ashore-will cause many or most American offensive and defensive missile systems to fail to fire, explode on launch, or not detonate on target. Some weapons may even emulate WWII torpedoes and Vietnam- era Sidewinders and boomerang back on the ship, plane or vehicle that launched them. "
 Quoting: Dilatoriness


He gets it, you don't.

The "...deliberate or accidental nuclear detonation-or from a directed energy weapon manned by Chinese technicians..." is such that it rips electrons out of their orbits and sets a very broad-spectrum blast that will fry any unprotected solid-state device, regardless of where it was made. The only advantages the Chinese (or whomever sets off the pulse) would be that knowing about the pulse, they could shut down or further shield their own vulnerable components during the incident.
Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim?
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Looks like a few false prides got hurt.
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How would you explain this caused by an EMP Dunc?

" Some weapons may even emulate WWII torpedoes and Vietnam- era Sidewinders and boomerang back on the ship, plane or vehicle that launched them. "
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" This has been accomplished by ensuring that its exported semiconductors used in many U.S. military computer and electronic components-from cellphones to missile warheads, fighter jets, frigates, radars, laptops and carriers-can be either accidentally or purposefully deactivated by a silent and invisible electromagnetic pulse delivered at the start of any future conflict. "

You don't necessarily need a nuke to cause an EMP, electrical devices can accomplish such with a wink.
I am here to challenge your indoctrinated false belief that flaming queens don't use shovels ...
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Are you sure the sources were not "Neil & Bob"?
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