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artMan
 User ID: 74590520  Sweden05/01/2017 02:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone could provide such a picture, I will be ETERNALLY thankful ! Quoting: deplorable recollector There is over a year since I try to find such a pic. It seems I can find, much easier, pics of Loch Ness monster, Yeti, chupacabra that a picture of our world. If you are looking for some information to settle the flat earth/sphere earth debate, you don't need to look to second hand sources, that you cannot verify yourself. Basically, all you need to do is to look at the sky, and particularly how things move. The very great difference in between the two models, is how the sun is moving. One one hand, on flat earth, the sun moves towards you, and away from you, at different times. In other words, in the sphere earth model, the sun stays about the same distance from you all the time, meanwhile in FE, it can be 10 times further away than it is in the middle of the day. I guess it comes as no surprise to you, things get smaller the further away they are. So question is, is the sun 10 times smaller at times than it is in the middle of the day? Because of perspective things seem to move slowly far away, yet up close, the movement seems fast, imagine a racing car, comping towards you and pass you. Does this correlate to how the sun moves in the sky, fast at times, slow at times? To wrap this up, anyone with 12 sticks can settle this discussion. Just put one out each hour during the day, in the direction of the sun, and check, IS THE MOVEMENT LINEAR OR IS IT NON-LINEAR????? You see? anyone with 12 sticks and a sunny day can prove you wrong. |
| deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508  United Kingdom05/01/2017 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone could provide such a picture, I will be ETERNALLY thankful ! Quoting: deplorable recollector There is over a year since I try to find such a pic. It seems I can find, much easier, pics of Loch Ness monster, Yeti, chupacabra that a picture of our world. If you are looking for some information to settle the flat earth/sphere earth debate, you don't need to look to second hand sources, that you cannot verify yourself. Basically, all you need to do is to look at the sky, and particularly how things move. The very great difference in between the two models, is how the sun is moving. One one hand, on flat earth, the sun moves towards you, and away from you, at different times. In other words, in the sphere earth model, the sun stays about the same distance from you all the time, meanwhile in FE, it can be 10 times further away than it is in the middle of the day. I guess it comes as no surprise to you, things get smaller the further away they are. So question is, is the sun 10 times smaller at times than it is in the middle of the day? Because of perspective things seem to move slowly far away, yet up close, the movement seems fast, imagine a racing car, comping towards you and pass you. Does this correlate to how the sun moves in the sky, fast at times, slow at times? Well, here is the problem. We don't know how big the Sun is and how far it is. The Sun works on both models, if presented in the given parameters the models assume it is. Nobody, to date, can prove the size , distance and composition of the Sun.Only theories. Just as Earth's composition.Nobody knows what the hell is Earth made of.Only theories. However, after decades of space travel, satellites, ISS, etc...we STILL do not have a clear, non-CGI, non-photoshoped picture of Earth. One would think AT LEAST this we can have... Last Edited by Recollector on 05/01/2017 03:00 PM |
| deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom05/01/2017 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone could provide such a picture, I will be ETERNALLY thankful ! Quoting: deplorable recollector There is over a year since I try to find such a pic. It seems I can find, much easier, pics of Loch Ness monster, Yeti, chupacabra that a picture of our world. If you are looking for some information to settle the flat earth/sphere earth debate, you don't need to look to second hand sources, that you cannot verify yourself. Basically, all you need to do is to look at the sky, and particularly how things move. The very great difference in between the two models, is how the sun is moving. One one hand, on flat earth, the sun moves towards you, and away from you, at different times. In other words, in the sphere earth model, the sun stays about the same distance from you all the time, meanwhile in FE, it can be 10 times further away than it is in the middle of the day. I guess it comes as no surprise to you, things get smaller the further away they are. So question is, is the sun 10 times smaller at times than it is in the middle of the day? Because of perspective things seem to move slowly far away, yet up close, the movement seems fast, imagine a racing car, comping towards you and pass you. Does this correlate to how the sun moves in the sky, fast at times, slow at times? To wrap this up, anyone with 12 sticks can settle this discussion. Just put one out each hour during the day, in the direction of the sun, and check, IS THE MOVEMENT LINEAR OR IS IT NON-LINEAR????? You see? anyone with 12 sticks and a sunny day can prove you wrong. Well, again, both models work, if given certain parameters. |
| artMan
User ID: 74590520 Sweden05/01/2017 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone could provide such a picture, I will be ETERNALLY thankful ! Quoting: deplorable recollector There is over a year since I try to find such a pic. It seems I can find, much easier, pics of Loch Ness monster, Yeti, chupacabra that a picture of our world. If you are looking for some information to settle the flat earth/sphere earth debate, you don't need to look to second hand sources, that you cannot verify yourself. Basically, all you need to do is to look at the sky, and particularly how things move. The very great difference in between the two models, is how the sun is moving. One one hand, on flat earth, the sun moves towards you, and away from you, at different times. In other words, in the sphere earth model, the sun stays about the same distance from you all the time, meanwhile in FE, it can be 10 times further away than it is in the middle of the day. I guess it comes as no surprise to you, things get smaller the further away they are. So question is, is the sun 10 times smaller at times than it is in the middle of the day? Because of perspective things seem to move slowly far away, yet up close, the movement seems fast, imagine a racing car, comping towards you and pass you. Does this correlate to how the sun moves in the sky, fast at times, slow at times? Well, here is the problem. We don't know how big the Sun is and how far it is. The Sun works on both models, if presented in the given parameters the models assume it is. Nobody, to date, can prove the size , distance and composition of the Sun.Only theories. Just as Earth's composition.Nobody knows what the hell is Earth made of.Only theories. However, after decades of space travel, satellites, ISS, etc...we STILL do not have a clear, non-CGI, non-photoshoped picture of Earth. One would think AT LEAST this we can have... "We don't know how big the Sun is and how far it is." It does not matter, we are looking at the movement. "Nobody, to date, can prove the size , distance and composition of the Sun.Only theories. Just as Earth's composition.Nobody knows what the hell is Earth made of.Only theories." No need to. Just keep track of the movement of the sun. "However, after decades of space travel, satellites, ISS, etc...we STILL do not have a clear, non-CGI, non-photoshoped picture of Earth." Who cares, we can settle this with first hand math. |
| artMan
User ID: 74590520 Sweden05/01/2017 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone could provide such a picture, I will be ETERNALLY thankful ! Quoting: deplorable recollector There is over a year since I try to find such a pic. It seems I can find, much easier, pics of Loch Ness monster, Yeti, chupacabra that a picture of our world. If you are looking for some information to settle the flat earth/sphere earth debate, you don't need to look to second hand sources, that you cannot verify yourself. Basically, all you need to do is to look at the sky, and particularly how things move. The very great difference in between the two models, is how the sun is moving. One one hand, on flat earth, the sun moves towards you, and away from you, at different times. In other words, in the sphere earth model, the sun stays about the same distance from you all the time, meanwhile in FE, it can be 10 times further away than it is in the middle of the day. I guess it comes as no surprise to you, things get smaller the further away they are. So question is, is the sun 10 times smaller at times than it is in the middle of the day? Because of perspective things seem to move slowly far away, yet up close, the movement seems fast, imagine a racing car, comping towards you and pass you. Does this correlate to how the sun moves in the sky, fast at times, slow at times? To wrap this up, anyone with 12 sticks can settle this discussion. Just put one out each hour during the day, in the direction of the sun, and check, IS THE MOVEMENT LINEAR OR IS IT NON-LINEAR????? You see? anyone with 12 sticks and a sunny day can prove you wrong. Well, again, both models work, if given certain parameters. No, two totally different movements will not produce the same result. In one case, it moves below the horizon, in the second it does not. It produces extremely different results. Reality only match one. Thing is, I do 3D work, and I can show you how the sky would look in the different models. Explain to me, why only the spherical model produces the movement in the sky that we are used to, while the FE model produces a sky that is horrifically different from reality. |
| deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom05/01/2017 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: artMan If you are looking for some information to settle the flat earth/sphere earth debate, you don't need to look to second hand sources, that you cannot verify yourself. Basically, all you need to do is to look at the sky, and particularly how things move. The very great difference in between the two models, is how the sun is moving. One one hand, on flat earth, the sun moves towards you, and away from you, at different times. In other words, in the sphere earth model, the sun stays about the same distance from you all the time, meanwhile in FE, it can be 10 times further away than it is in the middle of the day. I guess it comes as no surprise to you, things get smaller the further away they are. So question is, is the sun 10 times smaller at times than it is in the middle of the day? Because of perspective things seem to move slowly far away, yet up close, the movement seems fast, imagine a racing car, comping towards you and pass you. Does this correlate to how the sun moves in the sky, fast at times, slow at times? To wrap this up, anyone with 12 sticks can settle this discussion. Just put one out each hour during the day, in the direction of the sun, and check, IS THE MOVEMENT LINEAR OR IS IT NON-LINEAR????? You see? anyone with 12 sticks and a sunny day can prove you wrong. Well, again, both models work, if given certain parameters. No, two totally different movements will not produce the same result. In one case, it moves below the horizon, in the second it does not. It produces extremely different results. Reality only match one. Thing is, I do 3D work, and I can show you how the sky would look in the different models. Explain to me, why only the spherical model produces the movement in the sky that we are used to, while the FE model produces a sky that is horrifically different from reality. I cannot explain something I cannot see. Please provide me with the 3d work you have done, regarding both models. Otherwise it's just empty talk. Last Edited by Recollector on 05/01/2017 03:05 PM |
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| artMan
User ID: 74590520 Sweden05/01/2017 03:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: artMan To wrap this up, anyone with 12 sticks can settle this discussion. Just put one out each hour during the day, in the direction of the sun, and check, IS THE MOVEMENT LINEAR OR IS IT NON-LINEAR????? You see? anyone with 12 sticks and a sunny day can prove you wrong. Well, again, both models work, if given certain parameters. No, two totally different movements will not produce the same result. In one case, it moves below the horizon, in the second it does not. It produces extremely different results. Reality only match one. Thing is, I do 3D work, and I can show you how the sky would look in the different models. Explain to me, why only the spherical model produces the movement in the sky that we are used to, while the FE model produces a sky that is horrifically different from reality. I cannot explain something I cannot see. Please provide me with the 3d work you have done, regarding both models. Otherwise it's just empty talk. Sure, not that the vids I made are finished, but I'm going to upload it. You will see the ridiculous the FE model is. |
| deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom05/01/2017 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, two totally different movements will not produce the same result. In one case, it moves below the horizon, in the second it does not. It produces extremely different results. Reality only match one. Thing is, I do 3D work, and I can show you how the sky would look in the different models. Explain to me, why only the spherical model produces the movement in the sky that we are used to, while the FE model produces a sky that is horrifically different from reality. I cannot explain something I cannot see. Please provide me with the 3d work you have done, regarding both models. Otherwise it's just empty talk. Sure, not that the vids I made are finished, but I'm going to upload it. You will see the ridiculous the FE model is. In the mean time, let me look for 3D models that show the opposite. I know I have seen it, months ago, but I have seen it.Going to take a bit, but i'll find it. |
| artMan
User ID: 74590520 Sweden05/01/2017 03:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: artMan No, two totally different movements will not produce the same result. In one case, it moves below the horizon, in the second it does not. It produces extremely different results. Reality only match one. Thing is, I do 3D work, and I can show you how the sky would look in the different models. Explain to me, why only the spherical model produces the movement in the sky that we are used to, while the FE model produces a sky that is horrifically different from reality. I cannot explain something I cannot see. Please provide me with the 3d work you have done, regarding both models. Otherwise it's just empty talk. Sure, not that the vids I made are finished, but I'm going to upload it. You will see the ridiculous the FE model is. In the mean time, let me look for 3D models that show the opposite. I know I have seen it, months ago, but I have seen it.Going to take a bit, but i'll find it. Show the opposite? You don't even know what you are looking for. How would you know what I'm about to show? How can you tell something is opposite ? |
| deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom05/01/2017 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: deplorable recollector I cannot explain something I cannot see. Please provide me with the 3d work you have done, regarding both models. Otherwise it's just empty talk. Sure, not that the vids I made are finished, but I'm going to upload it. You will see the ridiculous the FE model is. In the mean time, let me look for 3D models that show the opposite. I know I have seen it, months ago, but I have seen it.Going to take a bit, but i'll find it. Show the opposite? You don't even know what you are looking for. How would you know what I'm about to show? How can you tell something is opposite ? I meant a 3D model that explains the Sun better on FE model than globe model (as far as I remember), sorry I didn't explained it. Last Edited by Recollector on 05/01/2017 03:27 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70186654 United States05/01/2017 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice computer generated image. You will not find ONE actual full photo of Earth, only composite images and NASA will even state that in their image disclosure (read the fine print with every image they post). IMAGE = a representation of the external form PHOTO = a photograph PHOTOGRAPH = picture made using a camera It's all in deception using the English language. Our entire Federal government uses this same technique through color of law. it is not computer generated. it was taken on film in 1972. |
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| deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom05/01/2017 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Couldn't find the model I was looking for, but the above video it's quite interesting. |
| deplorable recollector
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| Sheshba*zar User ID: 74804152  Tunisia05/01/2017 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone could provide such a picture, I will be ETERNALLY thankful ! Quoting: deplorable recollector There is over a year since I try to find such a pic. It seems I can find, much easier, pics of Loch Ness monster, Yeti, chupacabra that a picture of our world. There's none. But you see, GLP's readership needs UFOs, Greys, and cigar shaped time machines, how would they grant us that there is no outer sapce? |
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| Sheshba*zar User ID: 74804152 Tunisia05/01/2017 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An easy argument: we're being told that ozone, when excited by photons, takes on an opaque bluish tint which is responsible for our blue daylight sky. It's supposed to become so opaque that light emitters like stars can't get their light past it. Only the chief luminary can, namely the sun. Now, how is it then that, from outer space, from the Moon.. (Obligatory)  ..we can see continents or clouds which aren't even light emitters? Shouldn't earth look like Neptune i.e., like a monochrome blue ball? |
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| deplorable recollector
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| deplorable recollector
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 53525886 United States05/01/2017 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You've already seen hundreds of such photos but it doesn't matter what you see, it's all going to be "fake" and "CGI" to you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73814107 I don't care what you want to believe but I wish people like you would stfu. They'll never STFU... Happily, there are only about 100 people on the planet that believe their delusions... |
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| deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom05/01/2017 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You've already seen hundreds of such photos but it doesn't matter what you see, it's all going to be "fake" and "CGI" to you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73814107 I don't care what you want to believe but I wish people like you would stfu. They'll never STFU... Happily, there are only about 100 people on the planet that believe their delusions... Well, add at least 5 more zeroes and you will be closer to the truth. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 53525886 United States05/01/2017 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You've already seen hundreds of such photos but it doesn't matter what you see, it's all going to be "fake" and "CGI" to you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73814107 I don't care what you want to believe but I wish people like you would stfu. They'll never STFU... Happily, there are only about 100 people on the planet that believe their delusions... Well, add at least 5 more zeroes and you will be closer to the truth. Oh... Sorry... There are only about 105 people on the planet that believe their delusions... |
| Larry D. Croc
User ID: 70736097 United States05/01/2017 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No image you find will work for you. Because you already believe them to be fake to begin with. So what's your point? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74067833 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This. In spades. You're entitled to believe what you will, OP. Those of us with opposite views are entitled to the same consideration, are we not? "Socialism only works in two places: Heaven where they don't need it and hell, where they already have it." Ronald Reagan The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan |
| deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom05/01/2017 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You've already seen hundreds of such photos but it doesn't matter what you see, it's all going to be "fake" and "CGI" to you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73814107 I don't care what you want to believe but I wish people like you would stfu. They'll never STFU... Happily, there are only about 100 people on the planet that believe their delusions... Well, add at least 5 more zeroes and you will be closer to the truth. Oh... Sorry... There are only about 105 people on the planet that believe their delusions... Your reply clearly proves how a globetard talks. Mocking is their "proof" they are right. Just like libtards. They ARE RIGHT, and only them. |
| deplorable recollector
(OP) User ID: 73110508 United Kingdom05/01/2017 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No image you find will work for you. Because you already believe them to be fake to begin with. So what's your point? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74067833 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This. In spades. You're entitled to believe what you will, OP. Those of us with opposite views are entitled to the same consideration, are we not? Already replied it's not what I believe. It's what I see. And I see CGI and photoshop. |
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