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What they didn't tell you about the new affordable care act | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73060375  South Africa05/04/2017 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74817189  Australia05/04/2017 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not that I follow what you guys do over there, but that sounds GREAT! If there is no mandate, just do away with seeing doctors and 'insurance' altogether. I don't think I've seen a doctor for years - and I'm now in my 50s. You guys need to learn to take care of yourselves instead of always reaching out for pharma drugs. And with the exodus of more millions of people, wouldn't the coverage just keep increasing? In the event something really serious hit and you need a stay at a hospital, it'd be cheaper to go overseas. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73060375 South Africa05/04/2017 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not that I follow what you guys do over there, but that sounds GREAT! If there is no mandate, just do away with seeing doctors and 'insurance' altogether. I don't think I've seen a doctor for years - and I'm now in my 50s. You guys need to learn to take care of yourselves instead of always reaching out for pharma drugs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74817189 And with the exodus of more millions of people, wouldn't the coverage just keep increasing? In the event something really serious hit and you need a stay at a hospital, it'd be cheaper to go overseas. if you don't understand the implications I'm not going to spoon feed it to you, sorry!  |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73060375 South Africa05/04/2017 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Congress just did a bait and switch! If you don't have coverage you will still pay the penalty for the time period you go without, the difference is you won't pay it to the Govt, you will instead pay it to private business (Insurance companies)! |
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| hankie
Everything  User ID: 71719409 United States05/04/2017 07:42 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What these motherfuckers didn't tell you about the "new" affordable care act that Congress just voted on and now goes to the Senate, is that while they did away with the "mandate" that you purchase health insurance, they replaced that part with a clause that reads that the insurance companies can now charge you a surcharge! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73060375 This means that while your not required to purchase healthcare, you still get fucked. Here is how that works, say you decide not to purchase healthcare, no problem. You go without healthcare for a year and then decide that you want healthcare. You apply to whatever healthcare company and that company can legally charge you a surcharge for the entire year (or whatever time period be it more or less) that you went without coverage! Congress fucked over the American people once again! They have been and you should have read more, it to the states and the states can open up to other insurance companies and they have rules that have something to do with and anti trust from back in the 1930s. So, this is a lot like the congress old insurance where they got a lot of choices. That is good for the people. The way they will have to work their plan to get money, if they want more money they have to compete. If you think the surcharge is not high for lower income right you are mistaken. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68914307 United States05/04/2017 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuckem...I used to have to pay and now I don't for a "doctor" I will never see. Healthcare is a scam unless you break a leg - they are awesome at that. That is what the ER and chapter 7 is for. Fukem in the ass and let's see how much they charge me on death. Doctors are the actual government's finger in your ass. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73060375 South Africa05/04/2017 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me guess- you're the kind of fucktard who thinks he should be able to go without insurance until he needs a $100k operation then sign up for it the day before and have full coverage.  No, what you describe would have to be covered under the high risk (pre-existing coverage) policies that are being left to the states to figure out! Fuck off troll.......... |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73060375 South Africa05/04/2017 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuckem...I used to have to pay and now I don't for a "doctor" I will never see. Healthcare is a scam unless you break a leg - they are awesome at that. That is what the ER and chapter 7 is for. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68914307 Fukem in the ass and let's see how much they charge me on death. Doctors are the actual government's finger in your ass. Boy, the govt fucking teet sucking trolls are out in force once again! |
| fred also
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| Festus Hoggbottom
User ID: 53205112 United States05/04/2017 07:45 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What happens if your car insurance lapses? How about Life insurance? How about Workers Comp, Home, Renters, or Basic Liability Insurance? Same thing. Why should Health Insurance be any different? Makes sense to me. I did it. I did it on purpose. And I'll do it again. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74817189 Australia05/04/2017 07:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuckem...I used to have to pay and now I don't for a "doctor" I will never see. Healthcare is a scam unless you break a leg - they are awesome at that. That is what the ER and chapter 7 is for. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68914307 Fukem in the ass and let's see how much they charge me on death. Doctors are the actual government's finger in your ass.  Just one more reason to avoid doctors. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73060375 South Africa05/04/2017 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What happens if your car insurance lapses? How about Life insurance? How about Workers Comp, Home, Renters, or Basic Liability Insurance? Same thing. Why should Health Insurance be any different? Makes sense to me. Quoting: Festus Hoggbottom How about your healthy but you don't make enough to get the healthcare, so you go without no problem! Then you get a new position or change jobs and are making enough to get coverage, your still healthy no issues at all, but you will pay the surcharge for the entire time you went without insurance! And since you want to compare car insurance to health insurance, suppose you move to a city and no longer need your car. You drop the insurance no problems. Then a year later you move again and insure your car, they DO NOT reach back and fuck you with a surcharge for that year! Nice try, doesn't fit the situation! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68914307 United States05/04/2017 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuckem...I used to have to pay and now I don't for a "doctor" I will never see. Healthcare is a scam unless you break a leg - they are awesome at that. That is what the ER and chapter 7 is for. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68914307 Fukem in the ass and let's see how much they charge me on death. Doctors are the actual government's finger in your ass. Boy, the govt fucking teet sucking trolls are out in force once again! What spectrum are you? We respect all spectrums on GLP but it is helpful to know the level of retardation. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73060375 South Africa05/04/2017 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What these motherfuckers didn't tell you about the "new" affordable care act that Congress just voted on and now goes to the Senate, is that while they did away with the "mandate" that you purchase health insurance, they replaced that part with a clause that reads that the insurance companies can now charge you a surcharge! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73060375 This means that while your not required to purchase healthcare, you still get fucked. Here is how that works, say you decide not to purchase healthcare, no problem. You go without healthcare for a year and then decide that you want healthcare. You apply to whatever healthcare company and that company can legally charge you a surcharge for the entire year (or whatever time period be it more or less) that you went without coverage! Congress fucked over the American people once again! All Congress did was give the insurance companies (which bought and paid for all Congressmen) the ability to fuck over the average citizen! |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73060375 South Africa05/04/2017 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuckem...I used to have to pay and now I don't for a "doctor" I will never see. Healthcare is a scam unless you break a leg - they are awesome at that. That is what the ER and chapter 7 is for. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68914307 Fukem in the ass and let's see how much they charge me on death. Doctors are the actual government's finger in your ass. Boy, the govt fucking teet sucking trolls are out in force once again! What spectrum are you? We respect all spectrums on GLP but it is helpful to know the level of retardation.   |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28336531 United States05/04/2017 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me guess- you're the kind of fucktard who thinks he should be able to go without insurance until he needs a $100k operation then sign up for it the day before and have full coverage. I don't want to buy their product and believe it should be a right not to be forced to by anything. It's called freedom. America was founded upon that premise. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73060375 South Africa05/04/2017 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me guess- you're the kind of fucktard who thinks he should be able to go without insurance until he needs a $100k operation then sign up for it the day before and have full coverage. I don't want to buy their product and believe it should be a right not to be forced to by anything. It's called freedom. America was founded upon that premise. I agree, but what if you decide to change your mind years later? You will be forced to pay a surcharge for the entire time you went without and will get NO coverage until you pay that surcharge! You think thats right??? |
| fred also
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| Vision Thing
User ID: 69429594 United States05/04/2017 07:57 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What happens if your car insurance lapses? How about Life insurance? How about Workers Comp, Home, Renters, or Basic Liability Insurance? Same thing. Why should Health Insurance be any different? Makes sense to me. Quoting: Festus Hoggbottom How about your healthy but you don't make enough to get the healthcare, so you go without no problem! Then you get a new position or change jobs and are making enough to get coverage, your still healthy no issues at all, but you will pay the surcharge for the entire time you went without insurance! And since you want to compare car insurance to health insurance, suppose you move to a city and no longer need your car. You drop the insurance no problems. Then a year later you move again and insure your car, they DO NOT reach back and fuck you with a surcharge for that year! Nice try, doesn't fit the situation! So if I'm in my fifties and haven't had insurance since 1991, then if it so happened that I ever did have insurance (not sure what would cause that), I would pay the surcharge for 25 years! Right? I never go to doctors, knock wood. I have not been to a doctor since 1991. And I didn't need to then, it was stupid. I take care of my own health with diet, exercise, vitamins, minerals, herbs, and supplements. I can't afford to get sick and miss work - so, I don't. It's always been that way. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 68914307 United States05/04/2017 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fuckem...I used to have to pay and now I don't for a "doctor" I will never see. Healthcare is a scam unless you break a leg - they are awesome at that. That is what the ER and chapter 7 is for. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68914307 Fukem in the ass and let's see how much they charge me on death. Doctors are the actual government's finger in your ass. Just one more reason to avoid doctors. In the good ol' days of being a doctor, they helped the patient live by any means. Today, not so much...they want repeat bidness and encourage a life long relationship with them and as bonus, the hookers pharma gives them. Dr.s today are merely those who can memorize - my cat is smarter than all of them. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 73060375 South Africa05/04/2017 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What happens if your car insurance lapses? How about Life insurance? How about Workers Comp, Home, Renters, or Basic Liability Insurance? Same thing. Why should Health Insurance be any different? Makes sense to me. Quoting: Festus Hoggbottom How about your healthy but you don't make enough to get the healthcare, so you go without no problem! Then you get a new position or change jobs and are making enough to get coverage, your still healthy no issues at all, but you will pay the surcharge for the entire time you went without insurance! And since you want to compare car insurance to health insurance, suppose you move to a city and no longer need your car. You drop the insurance no problems. Then a year later you move again and insure your car, they DO NOT reach back and fuck you with a surcharge for that year! Nice try, doesn't fit the situation! So if I'm in my fifties and haven't had insurance since 1991, then if it so happened that I ever did have insurance (not sure what would cause that), I would pay the surcharge for 25 years! Right? I never go to doctors, knock wood. I have not been to a doctor since 1991. And I didn't need to then, it was stupid. I take care of my own health with diet, exercise, vitamins, minerals, herbs, and supplements. I can't afford to get sick and miss work - so, I don't. It's always been that way. The way the bill is worded - YES! |
