When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74765110 United States 05/13/2017 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools Fuel Pools refer to the old, used nuclear fuel rods that are still radioactive, and are usually kept above, or next to the reactors in the same containment buildings. This is like keeping your can of gas, right next to your generator. If your generator blows up, or catches fire so too does your fuel can, and bye bye. One disaster becomes a huge one. The Difference is with Nuke accidents, the killing effect from the radiation goes on and on way past thousands of years. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74804615 United States 05/13/2017 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools Fuel Pools refer to the old, used nuclear fuel rods that are still radioactive, and are usually kept above, or next to the reactors in the same containment buildings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74765110 This is like keeping your can of gas, right next to your generator. If your generator blows up, or catches fire so too does your fuel can, and bye bye. One disaster becomes a huge one. The Difference is with Nuke accidents, the killing effect from the radiation goes on and on way past thousands of years. When the power grid dies the Nuclear Reactor won't be able to send itself the power it produces. Do you see the problem with your thread premise? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68697376 United States 05/13/2017 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools 25? There are over 100 nuclear power plants in the U.S. alone. And yes, they can run on the power they generate, durr. The problems occur when there is no one manning the plants, for whatever reason, war, economic collapse, pandemic outbreak... They would all be SCRAMMED before they could meltdown anyway, you'd think. That's all automated. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74879272 United States 05/13/2017 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools Fuel Pools refer to the old, used nuclear fuel rods that are still radioactive, and are usually kept above, or next to the reactors in the same containment buildings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74765110 This is like keeping your can of gas, right next to your generator. If your generator blows up, or catches fire so too does your fuel can, and bye bye. One disaster becomes a huge one. The Difference is with Nuke accidents, the killing effect from the radiation goes on and on way past thousands of years. When the power grid dies the Nuclear Reactor won't be able to send itself the power it produces. Do you see the problem with your thread premise? Here's the problem. If power is lost to the pumps circulatiing water to the fuel pools, the water boils away, exposes the fuel rods, and then they melt. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74883448 France 05/14/2017 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools Backup power Generators fail, and eventually will run out of fuel, Without resupply, the cooling and operating power to operate each site will have the same flaws that caused the Fukushima Disaster. People have families, When the Grid goes down, or any other problem that causes people to question the safety of their families, the operation, safety and resupply of Nuke Plants will become compromised. Major Earthquakes will damage bridges, roads, power lines and other utilities. Do you think the Federal and state Governments will use helicopters to deliver fuel to Each and Every Nuke plant, to keep the generators going? What about maintenance, those big "backup" generators will not run forever without maintenance and part replacements. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73612519 United States 05/14/2017 07:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools And this is why I think the whole concept of an EMP attack is totally stupid. The radiation released throughout the world would be devastating. So why would anyone do that to themselves? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52006826 United States 05/14/2017 07:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools Although i agree that nuclear power and associated waste products are not good Op is missing facts. Fukushima was a Generation 1 design which had flaws. These flaws caused the different stages of plant destruction. The operators were already instructed to move generators to higher ground by failed to do so. This one oversight would have prevented the disaster. The other problems came from the way the hydrogen built up inside the buildings. The reality is that any Generation 1 designed reactor complex with known flaws should have been decommissioned before any problems arose |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72143481 Mexico 05/14/2017 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools Actually NO. All they have to do is run the reactors at 2 percent output and generate their own power on site. They could idle for 1000 years after the grid went down. We were not told the truth about Fukushima. |
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User ID: 72234993 United States 05/14/2017 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools How do I know I was involved with the installation of some of this equipment in two plants,and as far as I know it's an on going upgrade, when new improvements are available they get installed. Is it fool proof, who knows no one has ever conducted a major EMP test likes needed to know but I think it would have to be total extinction of people for melt downs to happen, or total failure of the equipment mains and backups of which there are more than one. Last Edited by Daggo on 05/14/2017 09:17 AM :Pirate Flag: 8-14-2018 The day Free Speech died in America |
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User ID: 72234993 United States 05/14/2017 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools Actually NO. All they have to do is run the reactors at 2 percent output and generate their own power on site. They could idle for 1000 years after the grid went down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72143481 We were not told the truth about Fukushima. Fuku happened due to total destruction of the plants system when that 20+ foot wall of water hit the plant. It was built in a stupid place that was in danger from day one. Last Edited by Daggo on 05/14/2017 09:22 AM :Pirate Flag: 8-14-2018 The day Free Speech died in America |
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User ID: 74863574 United States 05/14/2017 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools 25? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68697376 There are over 100 nuclear power plants in the U.S. alone. And yes, they can run on the power they generate, durr. The problems occur when there is no one manning the plants, for whatever reason, war, economic collapse, pandemic outbreak... They would all be SCRAMMED before they could meltdown anyway, you'd think. That's all automated. Power Plants can't run on the power they generate. That is why they have electric step-down distribution sites close to the power plant. If those sites go down, due to controller or transformer failure, then the nuclear power plant is virtually dead. No power can be transmitted or fed back to the plant to be utilized... Yes, lots of nuclear plants are automatically scrammed, still the pools have to be cooled and evaporation takes a toll on water level. Without the pumps operating, the rods would be exposed and you'd get a FUKU disaster... It takes months if not years for the rods to be cooled sufficiently to be stored externally underground.... |
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User ID: 74863574 United States 05/14/2017 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools Actually NO. All they have to do is run the reactors at 2 percent output and generate their own power on site. They could idle for 1000 years after the grid went down. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72143481 We were not told the truth about Fukushima. That wouldn't work. It has to do with Power Transfer. It would be like trying to plug your toaster into a 50,000+ volt power line.... Last Edited by DuckNCover on 05/14/2017 09:35 AM |
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User ID: 73740591 United States 05/14/2017 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools America Destroys the World with Nuclear Bombs, Reactors and Waste. Quoting: USA Fukushima 74765110 Depleted Uranium Weapons are dirty bombs that kill forever. [link to www.youtube.com] Beyond Treason FULL LENGTH a History told by those who used, where tasked to clean up Depleted Uranium Weapons use(A Impossible Task) and those who oppose the Destruction caused by these weapons of mass Destruction Thread: Hiroshima,Nagasaki,Fukushima - American Nuke Destruction of Japan and the World Hiroshima,Nagasaki,Fukushima!!! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Fukushima & Pacific Ocean Health Update 7/28/15 What sort of person even thinks about this and then goes on a forum and tells people that they were warned? Are you admitting that someone is thinking about a terrorist threat in the USA, op? -- 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
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America User ID: 6147536 United States 05/14/2017 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools here is a silly question. If nuclear energy can provide energy for decades, then why do they need a power grid to cool it down. Shouldn't it be able to power itself? |
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User ID: 74829298 United States 05/14/2017 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When the USA Power Grid Dies, 25+ Nuke Plants will eventually go Fukushima when their ON Site Power Fails to power Cooling to Reactors/fuel pools You, Sir, are a fuckwit and have no place on this board with thinking people. Go watch your collection of Hitlery promises. If the US experiences an EMP attack I expect ALL GE Mark I reactors to Fuku and we have at least a dozen of those turds in operation. GE should be held accountable for releasing a lethal POS upon the world I am a retired radiation hardness and susceptibility engineer. I know what I am talking about. If you live within 100 miles of a Mark I get a Geiger counter and some iodine. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
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