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| masterpalerider
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| masterpalerider
(OP) User ID: 73661404 United States05/20/2017 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would still kill or be killed in defense of myself or others, but that's it. I'm struggling to find reason in all this. "Greater love has no man than this: that a man lay down his life for his friends." - Jesus, John 15:13 |
| masterpalerider
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| masterpalerider
(OP) User ID: 73661404 United States05/20/2017 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would still kill or be killed in defense of myself or others, but that\'s it. I\'m struggling to find reason in all this. Me too, bro, me too. Thank you for dropping a line, man. Misery loves company and all that... "Greater love has no man than this: that a man lay down his life for his friends." - Jesus, John 15:13 |
| masterpalerider
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 61421428 United States05/20/2017 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't understand what keeps you people drawn into this life game. Quoting: masterpalerider The big reward is stuffing your cock into a germ-infested mucous membrane that bleeds and births more non-consenting babies to be condemned as slaves? Grappling against the odds and against the atrophy of time, and for what? It all bleeds out through your fingers like handfuls of sand. You say you are gifting life onto children by burdening them with labor and death. And then you praise nature and the circle of life, all while organism feasts upon organism, and suffering abounds. I don't understand. :youreafag: That you, Sheldon Cooper? |
| masterpalerider
(OP) User ID: 73661404 United States05/20/2017 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't understand what keeps you people drawn into this life game. Quoting: masterpalerider The big reward is stuffing your cock into a germ-infested mucous membrane that bleeds and births more non-consenting babies to be condemned as slaves? Grappling against the odds and against the atrophy of time, and for what? It all bleeds out through your fingers like handfuls of sand. You say you are gifting life onto children by burdening them with labor and death. And then you praise nature and the circle of life, all while organism feasts upon organism, and suffering abounds. I don't understand. :youreafag: That you, Sheldon Cooper? It is I. "Greater love has no man than this: that a man lay down his life for his friends." - Jesus, John 15:13 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50173942 United States05/20/2017 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would still kill or be killed in defense of myself or others, but that\\\'s it. I\\\'m struggling to find reason in all this. Me too, bro, me too. Thank you for dropping a line, man. Misery loves company and all that... At least you have the eyes to see clearly. Unlike all the mental zombies around us. Probably Karma is in play, it has to play out before our bodies can catch up with enlightenment of the mind. |
| masterpalerider
(OP) User ID: 73661404 United States05/20/2017 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: masterpalerider I would still kill or be killed in defense of myself or others, but that\\\'s it. I\\\'m struggling to find reason in all this. Me too, bro, me too. Thank you for dropping a line, man. Misery loves company and all that... At least you have the eyes to see clearly. Unlike all the mental zombies around us. Probably Karma is in play, it has to play out before our bodies can catch up with enlightenment of the mind. What's the answer for people like us then? We just suffer in silence? What are we suffering for? "Greater love has no man than this: that a man lay down his life for his friends." - Jesus, John 15:13 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50173942 United States05/20/2017 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At least you have the eyes to see clearly. Unlike all the mental zombies around us. Probably Karma is in play, it has to play out before our bodies can catch up with enlightenment of the mind. What\'s the answer for people like us then? We just suffer in silence? What are we suffering for? When you go down the path of reasoning you can find the causes. The first one being Born in a shitty world like this. None has a chance here, none. Not even the best of the best. This world has been death long time before we got born here. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71612244  United Kingdom05/20/2017 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | At least you have the eyes to see clearly. Unlike all the mental zombies around us. Probably Karma is in play, it has to play out before our bodies can catch up with enlightenment of the mind. What's the answer for people like us then? We just suffer in silence? What are we suffering for? We suffer because there is a burning desire within us. You have to kill that if you don't want to suffer. If you exist, you suffer. It's simple. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25443394 United States05/20/2017 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes but giving children the birth certificate and ssn makes them state chattel liable for the unpayable national debt that they had no say in. That's just Fucking stupid, even worse the parents are willing participants in the criminal deed. Many call themselves conservative Christians hence Jesus's question in Luke 6:46. America votes for democracy and wants its republic back. The land of God for shaken tards choking on corporate bankers cock. |
| masterpalerider
(OP) User ID: 73661404 United States05/20/2017 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: masterpalerider Thank you for dropping a line, man. Misery loves company and all that... At least you have the eyes to see clearly. Unlike all the mental zombies around us. Probably Karma is in play, it has to play out before our bodies can catch up with enlightenment of the mind. What's the answer for people like us then? We just suffer in silence? What are we suffering for? We suffer because there is a burning desire within us. You have to kill that if you don't want to suffer. If you exist, you suffer. It's simple. Are you saying death is the only way out? Or the practice of asceticism? "Greater love has no man than this: that a man lay down his life for his friends." - Jesus, John 15:13 |
| masterpalerider
(OP) User ID: 73661404 United States05/20/2017 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: masterpalerider Thank you for dropping a line, man. Misery loves company and all that... At least you have the eyes to see clearly. Unlike all the mental zombies around us. Probably Karma is in play, it has to play out before our bodies can catch up with enlightenment of the mind. What\'s the answer for people like us then? We just suffer in silence? What are we suffering for? When you go down the path of reasoning you can find the causes. The first one being Born in a shitty world like this. None has a chance here, none. Not even the best of the best. This world has been death long time before we got born here. I agree. What's the best course of action then? "Greater love has no man than this: that a man lay down his life for his friends." - Jesus, John 15:13 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 50173942 United States05/20/2017 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50173942 At least you have the eyes to see clearly. Unlike all the mental zombies around us. Probably Karma is in play, it has to play out before our bodies can catch up with enlightenment of the mind. What\\\'s the answer for people like us then? We just suffer in silence? What are we suffering for? When you go down the path of reasoning you can find the causes. The first one being Born in a shitty world like this. None has a chance here, none. Not even the best of the best. This world has been death long time before we got born here. I agree. What\'s the best course of action then? Live and let live. Avoid creating more bad karma for yourself and others ... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71612244 United Kingdom05/20/2017 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50173942 At least you have the eyes to see clearly. Unlike all the mental zombies around us. Probably Karma is in play, it has to play out before our bodies can catch up with enlightenment of the mind. What's the answer for people like us then? We just suffer in silence? What are we suffering for? We suffer because there is a burning desire within us. You have to kill that if you don't want to suffer. If you exist, you suffer. It's simple. Are you saying death is the only way out? Or the practice of asceticism? Yes. It is the cold, harsh truth of life. Either way, you are gonna die and the universe will not care. The problem is that, if the desire is still on, it is gonna be a slow and a painful death. That's why the ancients say, it is only you who can save yourself from the pain. |
| SpringLeak
User ID: 74823249 United States05/20/2017 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What part of the country are you in? I totally agree. SpamSpamSignatureSpamSpam Force Ghost Void God Zombie Wookie King From Beyond The Stars - Also I'm modest and understated. "Those who know, don't teach. Those who teach, are fucking with you." "When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift "Whenever possible be more compassionate. It is always possible to be more compassionate." "Four hearts combined are one." "There is a reason we use brains for thinking and concrete for sidewalks." "God is love. All you need is love...and GALAXY BLASTING SPACE WEAPONS." (I knew there was something wrong with this one, it just took me a while to figure it out) "Women are evil, men are dumb, somebody pissed in the beer." "The thing about smart people is: they seem like crazy people... to dumb people." "He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt he who is doing it." "Humanity has driven off the cliff, now the military is holding their hands over our eyes so we don't see the ground coming." "Some of what you read is wrong because the people who wrote it also did not have a very good education and were groping around in the dark when they wrote it. Lets thank them for trying because without people like them we would have a lot more groping to do in a much darker world" |
| masterpalerider
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| masterpalerider
(OP) User ID: 73661404 United States05/20/2017 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: masterpalerider What's the answer for people like us then? We just suffer in silence? What are we suffering for? We suffer because there is a burning desire within us. You have to kill that if you don't want to suffer. If you exist, you suffer. It's simple. Are you saying death is the only way out? Or the practice of asceticism? Yes. It is the cold, harsh truth of life. Either way, you are gonna die and the universe will not care. The problem is that, if the desire is still on, it is gonna be a slow and a painful death. That's why the ancients say, it is only you who can save yourself from the pain. I do have a relationship with God, though I see the wisdom in your philosophy. We have to lay down this life and pick up our cross. All the wisest men throughout time came to that conclusion it seems. "Greater love has no man than this: that a man lay down his life for his friends." - Jesus, John 15:13 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74578175 United States05/20/2017 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From a behavioral perspective the easiest and most obvious culprit in my mind, looks like the current language paradigm. We speak using Aristolean Essentialism. This basically explains a lot of your conception of suffering as a 'fact' of life. From my perspective, suffering appears transient and relative. For instance, if we have to ride in a car without air-conditioning on a very hot day, it may feel taxing. Still, this represents a condition relative to our preferred room-temperature. Other forms of suffering, i.e. depression, can result from prolonged patterns of negative thinking, and you'll see cognitive behavioral therapy can 'help' there, but I'll suggest the essentialist structure of language requires innovation. Also, I would point you toward the General Semantics school, and the work of Alfred Korzybski and David Bourland, Jr. These gentlemen, both deceased, have left us with some language extension technology, we have yet to impart in our speaking. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71612244 United Kingdom05/20/2017 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71612244 We suffer because there is a burning desire within us. You have to kill that if you don't want to suffer. If you exist, you suffer. It's simple. Are you saying death is the only way out? Or the practice of asceticism? Yes. It is the cold, harsh truth of life. Either way, you are gonna die and the universe will not care. The problem is that, if the desire is still on, it is gonna be a slow and a painful death. That's why the ancients say, it is only you who can save yourself from the pain. I do have a relationship with God, though I see the wisdom in your philosophy. We have to lay down this life and pick up our cross. All the wisest men throughout time came to that conclusion it seems. If you're honestly interested in truth, you will naturally find out that god doesn't exist. It is a mental projection. As you go deeper and deeper, get away from all the mental junk you've gathered, you will realize the actual nature of your existence. Existence, I say. ex-itio / stantia (exiting -the -stance) You , have existed your stance (which is" nothingness "- your true origin) Then, desire itself is the will to exist. No desire - no life. No life - no suffering. |
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| masterpalerider
(OP) User ID: 73661404 United States05/20/2017 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From a behavioral perspective the easiest and most obvious culprit in my mind, looks like the current language paradigm. We speak using Aristolean Essentialism. This basically explains a lot of your conception of suffering as a 'fact' of life. From my perspective, suffering appears transient and relative. For instance, if we have to ride in a car without air-conditioning on a very hot day, it may feel taxing. Still, this represents a condition relative to our preferred room-temperature. Other forms of suffering, i.e. depression, can result from prolonged patterns of negative thinking, and you'll see cognitive behavioral therapy can 'help' there, but I'll suggest the essentialist structure of language requires innovation. Also, I would point you toward the General Semantics school, and the work of Alfred Korzybski and David Bourland, Jr. These gentlemen, both deceased, have left us with some language extension technology, we have yet to impart in our speaking. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74578175 Would you elaborate on what you mean by an essentialist perception? Thank you very much for the suggestions, I will look into them. I do think language and complete understanding of terms is crucial for our understanding of the nature of reality. I guess where I'm not sure that we agree is how, for you, suffering is transient, as is joy. For me, I see it all like a holistic pie: we can have flawless ingredients for 99% of the pie, but you parse out 1% of poisonous ingredients into the mix, and the whole thing becomes suspect. Suffering seems to have much more gravity than joy. One can build up a lifetime of joys in a positive momentum, only to have it all ruined in one fell drop of the dice. Whereas, a man can have a whole lifetime of suffering under his belt, and live in it everyday, and the passing pleasures of food and drug do not help pay the debt. "Greater love has no man than this: that a man lay down his life for his friends." - Jesus, John 15:13 |
| masterpalerider
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| masterpalerider
(OP) User ID: 73661404 United States05/20/2017 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know...best theory I have is eternity trying to experience itself via a holographic mirror. In any case, it stops with me, not perpetuating the species to pop out more slaves into this cesspool of a planet. Quoting: )0( I'm right there with you. How sadly ironic is it that true humanity and decency finds its expression in those that will no longer be expressing? We can look at the data on high intelligence and see how it selects itself out of the gene-pool. "Greater love has no man than this: that a man lay down his life for his friends." - Jesus, John 15:13 |
