Why bother, honestly?

I would still kill or be killed in defense of myself or others, but that's it.

I'm struggling to find reason in all this.

The reason for it all is to insure the survivability of our species.

I would still kill or be killed in defense of myself or others, but that's it.

I'm struggling to find reason in all this.

5 stars.

An English author a few centuries ago wrote:

"People leading lives of quiet desperation."

The history of humanity has been full of misery and suffering, some people more than others.

Even those humans lucky enough to be born into a happy, comfortable slice of life will still be forced during portions of their life to face the death of loved ones, the suffering or even tragedies striking without notice some of the people around them and, of course, their own mortality.

If people can make it out of here without too much unhappiness, regret, sorrow, pain and anxiety, they'll be damn lucky.

All of this, however, is less likely or more liable to be actually worse because millions of people throughout the US and Europe are now more secular and more disconnected from faith and spirit than ever before.



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I don't have anything else better to do.

I don't understand what keeps you people drawn into this life game.

The big reward is stuffing your cock into a germ-infested mucous membrane that bleeds and births more non-consenting babies to be condemned as slaves?

Grappling against the odds and against the atrophy of time, and for what? It all bleeds out through your fingers like handfuls of sand.

You say you are gifting life onto children by burdening them with labor and death.

And then you praise nature and the circle of life, all while organism feasts upon organism, and suffering abounds.

I don't understand.

The only word I noticed in your whole post is cock

Are you AI?
Is this a project?

LOL!

From a behavioral perspective the easiest and most obvious culprit in my mind, looks like the current language paradigm. We speak using Aristolean Essentialism. This basically explains a lot of your conception of suffering as a 'fact' of life. From my perspective, suffering appears transient and relative. For instance, if we have to ride in a car without air-conditioning on a very hot day, it may feel taxing. Still, this represents a condition relative to our preferred room-temperature. Other forms of suffering, i.e. depression, can result from prolonged patterns of negative thinking, and you'll see cognitive behavioral therapy can 'help' there, but I'll suggest the essentialist structure of language requires innovation. Also, I would point you toward the General Semantics school, and the work of Alfred Korzybski and David Bourland, Jr. These gentlemen, both deceased, have left us with some language extension technology, we have yet to impart in our speaking.

Would you elaborate on what you mean by an essentialist perception?

Thank you very much for the suggestions, I will look into them.

I do think language and complete understanding of terms is crucial for our understanding of the nature of reality.

I guess where I'm not sure that we agree is how, for you, suffering is transient, as is joy. For me, I see it all like a holistic pie: we can have flawless ingredients for 99% of the pie, but you parse out 1% of poisonous ingredients into the mix, and the whole thing becomes suspect.

Suffering seems to have much more gravity than joy. One can build up a lifetime of joys in a positive momentum, only to have it all ruined in one fell drop of the dice. Whereas, a man can have a whole lifetime of suffering under his belt, and live in it everyday, and the passing pleasures of food and drug do not help pay the debt.

OMG you are talking to yourself.
This is ONE OF THOSE weird threads.
It will probably get to 1000 pages.

Two pages in & it's like I've found my brothers for the first time.
Didn't even realize I was looking for them...or that they might even exist.
Tears welling up & lump in throat..

No, but with a paranoid disposition that strong, will it matter in my saying no?

What in the actual fuck?

Was that Emerson?

I couldn't agree more.

Thanks for stopping by, brother.

Two pages in & it's like I've found my brothers for the first time.
Didn't even realize I was looking for them...or that they might even exist.
Tears welling up & lump in throat..

I can get by with foreplay

This whole thread is fake. First you post your existential crisis - and then you "Love bomb" people. What a mood swing. You are playing with people.
Not good and I see you.

Was that Emerson?

I couldn't agree more.

Thanks for stopping by, brother.

you would surely love to read the philosopher Arthur
Schoepenhaur.
seriously,,,you would love him,,,
he asks the same as you...says mankind should just
stop reproducing..

Sorry, that phrase was actually coined by an American, Henry David Thoreau, who died in 1862.

Back then, even the mightiest of the mighty did not have certain modern creature comforts and conveniences that many of us in 2017 take for granted.

But in a way our modern lifestyle makes the idea of both our life (and anxiety caused by the possibility that anyone of us at any future time may be knocked down by some major misfortune) and death even a greater instigator of discomfort or unpleasantness.

No surprise, therefore, that so many humans do turn to (and need to turn to) the spiritual and religious.




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