TWIN PEAKS: THE RETURN - Discuss the past, present and future of all things Twin Peaks

I don't think Dale Cooper manufactured Dougie because Dougie turned out to be not too nice a person. He was crooked, cheated on his wife and gambled money they didn't have without care for the results.

I think Dale was just aware that Bad Cooper had created the Tulpa Dougie, and wanted to create a good Dougie for Janey-E and Sonny Jim to make up for it.

The red shoes remind him of Audrey.

The pen I think was just in front of him as he sits down so is the first thing he sees but perhaps it reminds of when he handed one to Audrey to check her handwriting to see if it was her who slipped the note under her door.

The door was red before Dale came out of the socket. He only knew it was red because the friend in the casino told him so.

I just realised how much the 'drunk' in the cell looks like Johnny. Even with the right hand side of his face being the most damaged and the repeating of everything said near him, (like his repeating bear which only says "Hello Johnny. How are you today")

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Fat Trout #6: i suspect that the powerful hex enforcing the local crystalline reality structure is now dissolving, becoming fluid and falling like water over rocks from a great height.

Hey Gang!

Weird week. I'm glad I FINALLY got a chance to go through those older questions. In case you're curious, here's what happened to me this week.

The upcoming gig that we had scheduled was to be at an art gallery. It's run by a bunch of - pardon my French - liberal fucks. The worst snowflake scene that you could ever imagine. I mean, they have a group of transgenders that run the "bar" - a counter with a couple of bottles of wine and plastic cups. One of them is about 6'5" and looks like Big Bird. Real high class stuff. I used to volunteer there. Everything was fine - they even tolerated the fact that they knew I hated Hillary Clinton - until the election. Until Trump won. Then I was told in November that my volunteer services would no longer be needed, but that, of course, I was welcome to come back and play there anytime I wanted to. Which I actually did once back in January. Since then, an ex-band member of mine started working there. They were an EX because they couldn't handle the fact that I didn't agree with their liberal views. And when they discovered this week that I was in the showcase band for September, they decided to have our band removed from the gig. Which is fine - they just reopened in a new space and it sounds like shit. It would have been like playing in a friggin' cavern. And it's a blessing in disguise to be able to find out just how much you are hated without actually having to live through it for a night surrounded by artsy fartsy liberals looking down their nose at you. So it's cool. And no offense to any artsy, fartsy liberals out there. I know that some of you are cool.

It's only rock 'n' roll, right Morgan?

And then on a happier note, we're having a psychedelic Twin Peaks: The Return party at my house tonight for the Twin Peaks: The Return finale that should be one of the weirdest and coolest things ever. So yours truly will be witnessing the finale in a yrev, very altered way. With lots of cranked up Nine Inch Nails and Julee Cruise pumping on the stereo before it starts.

So yeah, let's see what all of you have been saying while I was busy reviewing all of those older questions and feeling some true discrimination for the first time in my life other than for having long hair...










INTRO - The Rancho Rosa logo was different - it always is. But the show intro looked the same to me. Are you smoking something good and not sharing it with the rest of the class? It IS the same, isn't it?

WHAT "ALL" MEANS - I took all as clearly meaning that Diane was to kill ALL of the Blue Rose Task Force.

DIANE AS NAIDO - Well, Diane said that she's not herself and that she's at the Sheriff's station. So let's think this through. She would have to be either Naido or the Drunk unless she's somebody we already know. Maybe the Experiment Model was made form her real DNA and body parts. Who knows. It could be the Drunk, though. I don't even know if James Hurley and Freddie Sykes can see him.

RESCUING NAIDO - I do think that Naido is there to be rescued by Agent Cooper just like she rescued him. And, let's face it, it would make sense for Naido to turn out to be Diane with the way that Cooper trusted her on the top of the bell building out in non-exist-ent space.

RICHARD HORNE - I'm pretty sure that Richard has been thoroughly vaporized. But you never know with David Lynch and Twin Peaks.

THE SEED - I think the seed is making a replicant to go and live with Janey-E and Sonny Jim. Either that, or it's going to be used a s a decoy. And just when we think our beloved Agent Cooper has been killed in the final moment of the show, we'll discover that Cooper is safe and that it was actually his seed Tulpa who suffered and died. And everyone will live happily ever after. Amen!










Holy Moley! Don't start crying. You're gonna make ME start crying.










I agree. He was fantastic. I was a little bummed when I first heard his name announced. But just like Robert Blake in Lost Highway, it was the PERFECT role for Mr. Belushi. There's been some real stellar performances on Twin Peaks: The Return.










We seem to have a few things in common. Message me and we'll swap some music or something.










ALL - Yeah, the message was to kill ALL the FBI agents and THAT'S when she started realizing that she probably wasn't going to survive it all.

COORDINATES - I think Diane's were fudged by Albert. And Jeffries figured out that it wasn't good Cooper because of something he said

DOUGIE - You heard right. Except he's not Mike in the credits yet. He's Phillip Gerard. But when him and BOB get back together at the end, he WILL be Mike. And it won't be pretty. I still think this is all about Mike and BOB getting back together again.










Nice! Yeah, there's been a few other possible musical "link points" that I've noticed. That's a good one. The whole thing will be like putting a puzzle together when it's all done.










Dale Cooper: You're a fine man, Bushnell Mullins. I will not soon forget your kindness and decency.

[Cooper shakes Bushnell's hand and turns to go]

Bushnell Mullins: What about the FBI?

Dale Cooper: I AM the FBI.










TAMMY - Wow! I didn't notice that at all. Great catch! It goes by fast. But you are so right. Even her chair appears to be missing. This along with the three Dianes kinda yells three timelines with one of them not even having Tammy in it.

BEETLES - There's more interesting things about Beetles. And Winged Beetles. Maybe we'll get into some of that at some point. It doesn't really tie in with Twin Peaks per se, but some aspects of it do.

END SOUNDS - I see what you mean. Very hard to hear - but there's definitely something there. Great catch!

RICHARD AND LINDA - And the bird was probably stoned.










Excellent. Sounds like they might have a secret plan for that suit.










"THEY" - Who is this "they" that tells you things?

CHARLIE - I think Charlie is a screen memory covering up one of those cloaked guys - that is in a white room - from the season two episode called "Variations on Relations" when Major Briggs tells them about when he first saw the Owl Cave map.

COOPER AND THE MITCHUMS - I couldn't agree with you more. And I'm glad that the Mitchums AND the Pink Girls are flying out to Twin Peaks with Cooper.

MONSANTO - I know someone who speaks Latin and they said that Monsanto most certainly does NOT translate to "shit mountain". I saw that someone else said that on GLP on some thread a couple of weeks ago. But that doesn't make it true. And, in this case, it isn't. Though it probably should be.

CORN - I've never heard of the corn-is-alien-food theory. But that can probably be said about a lot of things on Earth.










I don't think that Evil Cooper ordered the backstory. I think that the little bit of the real Diane that was peeking through told the backstory. And yeah, I don't know that they were buying ANYTHING that she was saying at that point.










Yeah. Remember, they are going through a Mexican server. Who knows who may be peeking at them along the way.










Oh, I'm pretty sure her son is vaporized toast. And Edward Louis Severson III is actually Eddie Vedder's real name.










I disagree. I think Gordon knows a LOT more than we know that he knows. You know?










Yeah, I've read many versions of that story. And stories like that give a lot of validity to the idea of beings living in the Inner Earth.










Joe Cocker? Maybe Joe Cocker on sedatives. Or Joe Cocker Lite.

I don't think Audrey is in hell.

And I KNOW that wasn't Blue Pine Mountain. That was just a small rock outcropping.










You're welcome, Sweetroll. Thanks for all of your help. Especially right after each part aired. I generally had other people here to deal with and therefore could never come on thread right after an airing. So thank you for helping to hold down the fort. And I agree, we've had some great ideas floated here by all of you. And their will be more to come. This thread doesn't just end after the finale tonight.










You are SO welcome. It's been a blast. And thank you for joining us. You've added a lot here, keybored.

Yes, tonight is going to be one of the greatest nights in television history. I am more excited than I have EVER been for something on the boob tube. This should be breathtaking and phenomenal to use just two words to describe it. Or, at the very least, wonderful and strange.










I KNEW that was Alice Cooper as the Bosomy Woman at the Convenience Store Motel.








I'll be back with more shortly. This is going to be another long day of posting for me....

Here's the next batch o' mail to be answered...










Here comes a troll idiot. There always has to be at least one. And this one OBVIOUSLY doesn't know squat about the show or they would already know...

a.) We've had two Coopers talking the whole time. Okay, maybe just one. At any rate, this is just the first time that THIS Cooper has spoken.

b.) It's the BEST television show of all time.

c.) It is, by far, the SMARTEST show ever on television.

But hey, we didn't expect YOU to get it.










CSI might be too much for them as well. I've heard that it sometimes can involve minor thinking.










No one here has any degrees in cinema as far as I know. But I'm pretty sure that most here can spell college correctly. Dumbass!

I feel sorry for you that you can't appreciate Lynch's movies and that you feel such a need to come here and tell people who love him and Twin Peaks how much it all sucks. Do you REALLY not understand that you're just talking about your own life? You are miserable. Or you wouldn't do this. Trolling threads like this one just shows how pathetic your life is. That you can't appreciate things or allow others to appreciate things that you don't like without shouting "you suck" with a megaphone. You're looking for attention because you're lonely and a sad human being.

AND you're a fucking Chad...












I'll bet it's that little midget fucker trolling Lynch threads because Showtime wouldn't pay him the ransom that he demanded.










Yeah, that fourth wall is starting to show a few cracks.










THAT'S putting it mildly.










First off, IT'S "SERIES", YOU DUMBFUCK!

Lost Highway was GREAT. Mulholland Drive was ever GREATER (and critically acclaimed). And the joke is on you - just check out this response at Cannes when Twin Peaks: The Return premiered...












Yep. I'll definitely be going back from the beginning again. We may do it right here on the thread. I'll probably wait until after the new book comes out in October.





















Settle down, it's just fan art. But nicely done, huh?










I'm pretty sure that Albert knew Diane previously. He worked alongside Cooper in Philadelphia when Diane worked there, too. I'm pretty sure that he'd been to that bar before, too.

I don't think Naido is Audrey. But hey, you're allowed to have your own wild theories here. I've sure got mine.

And I don't think American Girl is Diane, either. Diane says that she is in the Sheriff's station. So Diane almost has to be either:

a.) Naido
b.) The Drunk that mimics everybody
c.) Freddie's green grocers glove










Thank you. And a hearty cheers to the best country to ever spawn music. Love ya!










Wow! Thank you so much. And hello Australia! I'm glad that you've found the thread useful and I'm glad to know there's been some of you lurkers out there. Don't be afraid to come and talk here after the finale. In fact, we'll probably be here debating what it all means for years. So be sure and check back!










Thanks, keybored!










I disagree. I think that since the Dougie Tulpa was made back in 1997 it had a chance to become it's own person. It was only Cooper up until the point it was made. After that, it made it's own memories. Janey-E fed him crap like chocolate cake every night, so he got a little fatter. he lived in Las Vegas, so he ended up with a gambling habit. Etc.










I tend to agree with you on this one. Especially with the red shoes. The fact that he may need to rescue her again from God only knows where is pretty intense.










I think the Drunk looks and acts more like the bear than like Johnny.










Wow! I'm really hoping that in a few very short hours from now, I will completely understand - and relate - to this post.








That was it for the mail. For now. I'll be back with the Part 16 synopsis and questions in an hour or two...



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I doubt Naido is Audrey too. It was just one of those weird thought you get, like the one I have today about The Fireman being a future Dale Cooper (for his smart suit but is missing nice hairdo) and Senorita Dido being Audrey (for her love of music, but her beauty spot has slipped, as has her figure).

Perhaps Tulpa Diane is Lucy as they both had non-identical mirrored cardigan/bag. Perhaps it is someone else that needs to pick her out if she is the real Lucy, and not her pick out the real Dale, as some think.

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may not mean anything (and probably doesn't) but am i the only one to notice that Naido backwards is "O Dian"?

again, may not be anything to it but with all the backwards talk in this show it got me thinking... especiallyt that diane is "in the Sherrif's station"

There's also the trio Candie, Mandie and Sandie with those letters.

And that brings us to the Part 16 synopsis. So here goes. This is the last time that I'll be doing this until after it's all over <SNIFF, SNIFF>...



PART 16

---OPENING CREDITS - Laura Palmer's face superimposed over the falls and then as it fades - brand new shots of the falls, the red curtains from The Waiting Room/Black Lodge, and the floor of The Waiting Room/Black Lodge.
---Twin Peaks, Washington - Evil Cooper and Richard Horne are driving down a dark road somewhere in eastern Washington near the town of Twin Peaks; Evil Cooper parks the truck and sweeps the area with a spotlight, telling Richard that he got three sets of coordinates and that two of them match; Evil Cooper asks Richard what he should do and Richard says to, "check out the two that match"; Evil Cooper says they are very close to the two that match and points towards a large rock outcropping; meanwhile, Jerry Horne is up on a bluff and looking down on the parked truck; Jerry pulls out a pair of binoculars, but then looks through them the wrong way and freaks himself out; Evil Cooper tells Richard that it's right up on the rock and that because he's 25 years older than Richard, he expects Richard to go climb up the rock and check it out; Evil Cooper hands him a GPS device and tells Richard that it should start beeping when he is close and make a continuous tone when he's on it; Richard begins climbing the rock outcropping; Jerry Horne continues to watch them through the wrong end of the binoculars - making them appear to be REALLY far away; the GPS device begins beeping as Richard reaches the top of the rock; a continuous tone is then heard, Richard says, "I'm there", and then he appears to be electrocuted - his screaming becoming distorted as he disappears in a sizzle and puff of smoke; Jerry Horne - having witneesed all of it - collapses on the ground shaking his head; Evil Cooper takes a last look at the rock outcropping, says, "goodbye my son", and then walks back to his truck; Jerry Horne curses out his "bad binoculars", beating them on the ground; Evil Cooper texts a message to someone at 2:05am which says ":-) ALL." and then gets back in his truck.
---Las Vegas, Nevada - The Hutchens arrive on Lancelot Court and park on the street near the Jones residence; Chantal Hutchens kicks back with her leg up on the lap of her husband - Gary 'Hutch' Hutchens - chewing on some Cheetos while they wait for Dougie Jones to get home; Hutch asks Chantal if she heard "that bird this morning" and she replies, "sure as shit did"; suddenly, Special Agent Randall Headley along with Agent Wilson and two others from the Las Vegas FBI office arrive at the Jones residence looking for Dougie and Janey-E; Headley yells at Wilson to go grab a car and park it out of sight so that he can stake out the house while Headley heads to Dougie's place of business - the Lucky 7 Insurance company; the Hutchens watch the FBI apparently leave and Chantal comments, "good riddance"; meanwhile, at the local Las Vegas hospital, Dougie Cooper is lying in a hospital bed in a coma - Janey-E Jones and Sonny Jim Jones right there by his side; Bushnell Mullins arrives and says that they say Dougie's vital signs are good and strong, but Janey-E tells him that they say that when someone goes into a coma "they can stay there for years"; the Mitchum brothers arrive at the hospital and enter Dougie Cooper's room looking very concerned and carrying a huge bouquet of flowers; Bushnell introduces them to Janey-E and she, in turn, tells Sonny Jim that they are the men who bought him his gym set as well as their new car; Candie, Mandie and Sandie arrive carrying food - finger sandwiches - which Candie starts handing out to Sonny Jim and Janey-E; Bradley remarks that - all things considered - Dougie looks good; Rodney Mitchum asks Janey-E for the keys to her house so that they can stock it up with some food.
---Buckhorn, South Dakota - Back at the hotel and the room that they set up for communications, FBI Deputy Director Gordon Cole is looking at all of the machinery in the room and listening to the computers and monitors beep - which sound just like Cooper's hospital room in Las Vegas.
---Las Vegas, Nevada - Back in the hospital room, the Mitchum brothers along with the Pink Girls have left to go stock up the Jones house with food while Janey-E, Sonny Jim, and Bushnell Mullins sit with Dougie; Sonny Jim says that he has to pee so Janey walks out with him to help him find a bathroom; Bushnell remains and soon his phone starts vibrating - he has a call; it's Phil Bisby from the Lucky 7 Insurance offices alerting Bushnell to the fact that the Las Vegas FBI was just there looking for Dougie and that he told them they were at the hospital; Bushnell asks when they left and Phil tells him it was about ten minutes ago; Bushnell hangs up the phone, looks at Dougie just laying there in his hospital bed with a ventilator tube shoved down his throat, and shakes his head sadly; on Lancelot Court, Chantal grabs a bag of Cheetos and begins munching while her and her husband continue to watch the Jones residence; Agent Wilson has driven around the block and now parks the FBI vehicle so that he can also keep an eye on the house; the Hutchens look bored waiting around and eventually Hutch asks Chantal is she remembers a guy named Sammy; Chantal says that she does remember Sammy and Hutch tells her that Sammy passed away and that he still owed Sammy money; suddenly, a stretch limo along with a food truck pulls up in front of the Jones house; the Hutchens wonder what is going on and Hutch asks if one of the guys that just arrived is Dougie; Chantal yells at him saying, "do any of them look anything like our boss?", calls Hutch "stupid", and then explains her bitchiness by saying that she's on her last bag of Cheetos; Hutch asks her if she is on the rag, which doesn't help; the Hutchens watch as the food truck guys haul boxes into the house and the Pink Girls carry in trays of food; Chantal comments that it looks like "a fucking circus parade"; Agent Wilson hiding out down the street with a partner says, "stretch limo, girls in pink, no Douglas Jones"; the food truck finishes up and leaves while the Hutchens just sit and watch; suddenly, a white car drives up - with Zawaski Accounting, Inc written on it's side - and stops right in front of the Hutchens' van; the Polish Accountant gets out, walks up to the window on the Hutchens' van, and tells them they are in his driveway; the Hutchens look, see that they're not, and tell the Polish Accountant so - Chantal adding that, "we're not even close to your fucking driveway, asshole - go fuck yourself"; the Polish Accountant walks away saying, "I move car" and then gets back in his car and begins ramming the Hutchens' van; Agent Wilson and his partner just sit in their surveillance car watching; Chantal hops in the drivers seat, pulls out a gun, and fires through the front windshield of the Polish Accountant's car, just barely missing him; the Polish Accountant gets out and runs to the back of his car with a gun in his hand and fires back - hitting Chantal in the left arm; Hutch grabs his rifle and fires back while Chantal tries to escape, but the Polish Accountant's car is in the way so she rams it - knocking the Polish Accountant down - and then drives past; the Polish Accountant gets up and shoots into the van, hitting and most likely killing Chantal and causing the van to begin slowing down on it's way down the street; the Mitchum brothers come out of Dougie's house with guns drawn, wondering what is happening and seeing the Polish Accountant walking down the street, reloading his gun, and then firing at the van again - this time hitting and most likely killing Hutch; Agent Wilson and his partner sit in disbelief watching the shot up van roll down the street; Bradley Mitchum turns to his brother and asks, "what the fuck kind of neighborhood is this?" and Rodney replies, "people are under a lot of stress"; the Hutchens van comes to a stop in somebody's driveway at a turn in the road; Agent Wilson and his partner get out of their car with their guns drawn and order the Polish Accountant to put down the gun and slowly back away which he does before raising his arms high in the air; Rodney tells Bradley to put his gun down and grab the girls so that they can get out of there; the Hutchens' van can be seen in flames as Agent Wilson calls for an ambulance to come to Lancelot Court; meanwhile, in the hospital, Dougie Cooper is still hooked up to a ventilator with Bushnell Mullins standing watch over him; suddenly a ringing hum can be heard - EXACTLY like the Tibetan Singing Bowl bell sound that Beverly Paige discovered in the Great Northern Hotel - and Bushnell goes wandering off in the hallway to try and discover where it is coming from; we then see Phillip Gerard and The Waiting Room superimposed over the chair next to Dougie's bed, and THAT'S when FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper sits up in bed and pulls the tube out of his throat; Phillip Gerard says, "you are awake" and Agent Cooper replies, "100 percent"; Gerard tells Agent Cooper, "the other one, he didn't go back in - he's still out" and then hands Cooper the Owl Cave Ring"; Agent Cooper takes the ring and then asks Phillip Gerard if he has the seed which Gerard then produces from his pocket and shows to Agent Cooper; Cooper then pulls out some hairs from the back of his head and tells Gerard, "I need you to make another one" which Gerard says he understands before disappearing; Agent Cooper quickly hides the Owl Cave Ring under the pillow right before Janey-E and Sonny Jim come in the room, surprised to see "Dougie" sitting up, and they are all soon joined by Bushnell Mullins; Cooper sends Janey-E and Sonny Jim out to get a doctor and then tells Bushnell to pass him some of those finger sandwiches because he's starving; Bushnell passes him the sandwiches and tells "Dougie" that the office just called and said that the FBI had just been there to see him; a Female Doctor comes in the room just as Cooper is yanking the IV tubes out of his arm (the Female Doctor is played by Bellina Martin Logan who - in the second season of Twin Peaks - played Louie Budway, the Great Northern Hotel clerk who alerted everyone to the fact that the food critic M.T. Wentz was arriving in town); Cooper tells the Female Doctor to check his vitals which she does and they are, of course, "A-OK" so the doctor leaves to prepare Agent Cooper's release papers; Cooper tells Janey-E to pull the car around front and she leaves with Sonny Jim to do so; meanwhile, Cooper tells Bushnell that he's going to need the .32 snubnose that Mullins carries under his left arm; Bushnell hands it over and Cooper tells him to get the Mitchum brothers on the phone; Bushnell does and Cooper tells them to meet him and his family in the Silver Mustang Casino lobby in 20 minutes and to get a plane ready to fly out to Spokane, Washington; the "Twin Peaks Theme" begins to play as the Mitchum brothers wonder what "Dougie" is up to now and Cooper hands a handwritten message to Bushnell Mullins and tells him to give it to Gordon Cole (which Cooper has a feeling will be calling); Cooper shakes Bushnell's hand and thanks him for his kindness and decency and then turns to leave; Bushnell asks, "what about the FBI" and Cooper responds, "I AM the FBI"; Cooper goes outside and tells Janey-E to move over, that HE is going to drive, and they leave - just as the FBI is pulling up in front of the hospital; while driving on the street, Cooper gets directions to the casino from Janey-E, Sonny Jim is impressed with his dad's driving skills, and Janey-E looks blissfully happy.
---Buckhorn, South Dakota - Downstairs, in the hotel bar, Diane Evans sits smoking and drinking as usual when she gets a text message which says ":-) ALL." (it is received as iMessage Today 16:31); Diane seems VERY upset upon receiving the text message and immediately finishes her drink and says, "I remember, oh, oh Coop, I remember" and then punches the coordinates to Twin Peaks, Washington into her phone - 48551420117163956 - and sends them (it is sent in reply to a message received as Text Message Today 16:44); Diane starts shaking and we see that she has a gun in her purse; the same music begins that played when we FIRST saw Evil Cooper driving a car down the road back in Part 1 - the David Lynch remix of "American Woman" by Muddy Magnolias - and Diane begins the trek upstairs, via elevator, to FBI Deputy Director Gordon Cole's communications room where Gordon, FBI Agent Albert Rosenfield and FBI Agent Tammy Preston are; Gordon senses her coming as she approaches the door and says, "come in, Diane"; she enters, sits down, says that she's going to tell them about the night that Evil Cooper visited her, excepts a vodka drink from Albert, and begins her story - sometime in 1992 or 1993, while she was still working for the FBI, Evil Cooper suddenly showed up at her house one night and just walked in; Diane says she held him close and they talked - she wanted to know everything that had happened to him in the last three or four years, but all he wanted to hear about was what was happening at the Bureau; then Evil Cooper leaned in and kissed her - it had only happened once before - and as soon as his lips touched hers, something went wrong and Diane got afraid and Evil Cooper saw the fear in her; Evil Cooper smiled and his face changed and then he raped her; Diane says that afterwards he took her to an old gas station (meaning the Convenience Store); Diane then glances at her phone again which now says ":-) ALL" without a period like it had before (it says that it was received as iMessage Today 15:50 instead of 16:31 like it did earlier); Diane begins hyperventilating and repeatedly saying, "I'm in the Sheriff's station"; then Diane says, "I sent him those coordinates" and adds, "I'm not me" over and over again before finally pulling the gun out of her purse and forcing Albert to shoot her (which he does but we don't see Tammy sitting next to him or even her chair as he fires); Diane immediately drops the gun as she gets knocked back against the wall, and then Albert and Tammy fire on her again which causes her to fly out of the chair and disappear (with it looking like there might have been as many as three Dianes that flew out of the chair and disappeared); Gordon just sits there staring at the others and thinking as Tammy exclaims, "they're real - that was a real Tulpa" and then Gordon turns towards Albert and says, "Sheriff's station"?
---The Waiting Room (The Red Room) - Diane is sitting in the green velvet armchair in The Waiting Room - where Dougie Jones ended up - and Phillip Gerard tells her that someone manufactured her; Diane says, "fuck you" to Phillip Gerard and then a rip and some black smoke can be seen coming from her head as a golden "seed" orb emerges from the rip, her head disappears showing only black smoke and then her whole body crumples in the chair; Phillip Gerard averts his eyes like he always does and after some electrical crackling, only the golden "seed" orb remains in the armchair.
---Las Vegas, Nevada - At the Silver Mustang Casino, Agent Cooper arrives with Janey-E and Sonny Jim and they are met by the Mitchum brothers in the lobby; Rodney Mitchum tells "Dougie" that the plane is all ready to go and Janey-E asks where they are going; Cooper takes Janey-E and Sonny Jim away from the others to talk while the Mitchums discuss how well "Dougie" is talking now and Bradley decides it must be side effects from the coma; Agent Cooper explains to Janey-E and Sonny Jim that he has to go away for awhile, but that soon "Dougie" will be back which then causes Janey-E to say, "you're not Dougie?" and Sonny Jim to panic and say, "no, you're my dad"; Agent Cooper assures Sonny Jim that he is his dad and that he loves them both and soon he will walk through the red door on Lancelot Court and be home for good; having said goodbye he starts to leave, but Janey-E catches up to him and kisses him saying, "whoever you are...thank you"; Cooper leaves with the Mitchum brothers as Janey-E stands with Sonny Jim and watches him go - a slot machine with a scarab beetle on it can be seen before the scene fades to black; Agent Cooper is with the Mitchum bothers and the Pink Girls in the limousine headed for the airport; Candie serves "Dougie" some coffee in a glass and hands Bradley a Bloody Mary; Rodney says, "you don't sell insurance, you're an FBI agent who's been missing for 25 years and we need to get you to a town called Twin Peaks, to a Sheriff's station"; Bradley says that they are not traditionally welcomed in such places and Cooper tells the Mitchums that all that is about to change since he has witnessed that they both have hearts of gold; Candie agrees with Agent Cooper that "they really do" have hearts of gold and they continue on their drive to the airport.
---Twin Peaks, Washington - At The Bang Bang Bar (aka The Roadhouse), the MC who looks just like Little Jimmy Scott introduces Edward Louis Severson (which is Eddie Vedder credited as Edward Louis Severson III - which is his real name) who then performs; near the end of his performance, we see Audrey Horne and Charlie enter The Roadhouse and head for the bar where Charlie orders them two martinis; after Edward Louis Severson's performance, Audrey and Charlie get their drinks - Charlie toasting "here's to us, Audrey" and Audrey toasting here's to Billy"; the MC then suddenly announces that it's time for Audrey's Dance and an old timey looking band of old black jazz musicians begin playing "Audrey's Song" from the original series - the same song that Audrey once danced in front of a jukebox to at the RR Diner; Audrey begins swaying to the music before she even gets up from the bar, but eventually she is in the middle of the dance floor with a spotlight on her while she dances; Charlie remains at the bar watching her; eventually, a man comes running in screaming "Monique" and another man yells, "that's my wife, asshole" and hits the first man in the head with a bottle before jumping on top of him and punching him; Audrey starts looking panicked and runs over to Charlie at the bar saying, "get me out of here"; immediately, there's a sound of crackling electricity and Audrey Horne is suddenly in a stark white room looking at herself - with no makeup on - in a small hand mirror; Audrey gasps and says, "what - wha-what?"
---CLOSING CREDITS - The credits roll over the old black jazz band playing "Audrey's Theme" - BACKWARDS!








Man, what a way to end - and what a set-up for the finale. Holy Moley! I LOVE IT! Here are the brand new questions that Part 16 gave us. As usual, if you can think of any questions that I forgot, please post it for all to see. Here we go...



QUESTIONS

1.) Did Richard Horne get killed on the rock outcropping or did he get zapped somewhere? I'm going with killed. Richard is toast. And a little burnt, at that.
2.) Who exactly set the trap for Evil Cooper up on the rock outcropping that seemed to vaporize Richard Horne? Ahhh...this is a good question. Because TWO people gave him the coordinates that would have left him dead. We'll have to look into this more later.
3.) Who ended up being the person that gave Evil Cooper the single good set of coordinates? A great follow-up question to #2. I'm thinking that Ray Monroe was the one that gave Evil Cooper the good set.
4.) Who did Evil Cooper send the ":-) ALL." text to? It's gotta just be Diane, right? I mean, it's a no-brainer. So why does my brain still hurt about all of this?
5.) What kind of bird was it that the Hutchens heard earlier in the morning? An owl, perhaps?
6.) Who is the Polish Accountant and why did he stupidly shoot off a gun and kill people in his own neighborhood? For an accountant, he sure was packing some serious heat.
7.) Why was there suddenly the sound of a Tibetan Singing Bowl in the Las Vegas hospital? Was it simply because Phillip Gerard was nearby? Because a rift and connection was being temporarily opened between our world and The Waiting Room? If so, what does that mean about the Great Northern Hotel?
8.) Is the Tulpa that Agent Cooper asked Phillip Gerard to make going to be a new "Dougie" for Janey-E and Sonny Jim or is it a trap for Evil Cooper? I'm hoping that it's a trap and that Agent Cooper retires with Janey-E and Sonny Jim. Of course, TECHNICALLY, isn't Agent Cooper still dating Annie Blackburn?
9.) Did Agent Cooper retrieve the Owl Cave Ring from under the pillow before leaving the Las Vegas hospital? Boy, what an ending THAT would be - Agent Cooper looks at the dying Evil Cooper that he just clobbered and says, "It's over...now where did I put that ring?"
10.) Is the Female Doctor supposed to be a grown-up version of Louie Budway who went to medical school? I'm hoping that Louie went to medical school. Otherwise, either Lynch is reusing actors for different roles - which I don't believe or there would have been more of them - or Agent Cooper is putting familiar faces in scenes which could mean that none of it is real. Damn Dreamer!
11.) Why does Agent Cooper think that FBI Deputy Director Gordon Cole will be calling the hospital? Has Cooper - since waking up completely - already had one of HIS dreams that predict the future?
12.) Who sends Diane Evans the ":-) ALL." text while she is sitting in the bar at the Buckhorn hotel in South Dakota? It's Evil Cooper, right? But at this point, Diane seems to think it means something about sending the coordinates - which I thought that she had already done. So she sends them again. Had Diane not already sent Evil Cooper the complete set of coordinates before?
13.) Why does the time change by 13 minutes when Diane immediately replies back to the ":-) ALL." text? Diane replies to the text almost immediately. The time doesn't seem to jump here so there's really no reason for it to be 13 minutes later when we've watched it all happen in less then two minutes.
14.) How did Gordon Cole know that Diane was at the doorway to their communications room at the hotel? Gordon has been getting pretty damn psychic as this whole thing has gone on. So why the hell are the FBI STILL in Buckhorn?
15.) Why did Evil Cooper take Diane to the Convenience Store? I'm thinking that the REAL Diane Evans - the one with the pretty long wavy hair - is being kept at the Convenience Store Motel. Hopefully, when the REAL Agent Cooper shows up, Phillip Jeffries will know that it is him and help him to save the real Diane. How that ties in with her saying that she is in the Sheriff's station - and us thinking that she's somebody else there like Naido or the Drunk - I couldn't begin to tell you. Well, I'll try later.
16.) Why does Diane's text message read differently - without a period - and with the wrong time stamp when she looks at it in the room Gordon, Albert and Tammy are using as a communications room? There are some serious multiple timelines involved in this whole scene with Diane.
17.) Why does Diane keep saying, "I'm in the Sheriff's station" over and over again? She knows something about what is about to go down in the Twin Peaks Sheriff's Department jail. But how can Diane be there?
18.) Why does Diane keep saying, "I'm not me" over and over again? If she is somebody else at the Twin Peaks Sheriff's Department, it can only be a few people. Hmmm...that Deputy Jesse dude sure is freaky. And could this have anything to do with Andy's White Lodge vision of Lucy?
19.) Why can neither Tammy or her chair be seen in the room when Albert first shoots Diane? Is this an alternate timeline where only Albert is there to shoot Diane. Does Tammy Preston even exist in this particular timeline or dimension?
20.) Why does it look like there were two or maybe even three different Dianes when she got shot by Albert and disappeared? Like the Jack Rabbits Palace scene, we are being shown up to three different versions of many things in Twin Peaks: The Return. And keep in mind that this started way back in the original series and Fire walk With Me where there appears to be at least two completely different timelines going on in town.
21.) Will Agent Cooper be returning to Janey-E and Sonny Jim or will he be sending a Tulpa of himself instead? If I think with my heart, I'd have to say that it is going to be the REAL FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper that will be returning to Janey-E and Sonny Jim at the end of this whole mess.
22.) Why is a slot machine with a scarab beetle seen as Janey-E and Sonny Jim watch Agent Cooper leave the casino? Keybored mentioned in a post that the beetle represented rebirth. A scarab beetle is actually symbolic of eternity itself.
23.) Why is Eddie Vedder at The Roadhouse performing under his real name that he NEVER uses? And with that creepy MC introducing him. I have believed for awhile now that this alternate Roadhouse doesn't really exist. Things like this kinda prove it to me. Though, with that final Part 16 scene with Audrey Horne, I don't know that we need much more proof than what we already have.
24.) Why is there an old black jazz band playing "Audrey's Dance" at The Roadhouse? What a GREAT scene. The band was perfect. But very surreal.
25.) Who is the Monique that the two guys end up fighting over at The Roadhouse? I think that Monique is just another made-up person from Audrey's mind/dream.
26.) Who is the guy who came in The Roadhouse looking for Monique? Yet another made up person in Audrey's mind/dream.
27.) Who is Monique's husband that hit the guy that came in looking for her with a bottle at The Roadhouse? And still another made up person in Audrey's mind/dream.
28.) Where exactly is the white room that Audrey Horne is suddenly transported to when she orders Charlie to "get me out of here"? Ahhh...now THAT'S the $64,000 question at the moment. Is she in a coma? A nuthouse? Another dimension? The Black Lodge? The White Lodge? A brand new Gray Lodge? (I'll be posting my full scale crazy theory on this in my final post today.)
29.) Why is the old black jazz band suddenly playing "Audrey's Theme" backwards? Was that cool and creepy or what? What if, after the jazz band plays, the entire finale is all done completely backwards?



Some interesting new questions. Some are easier than others to answer. It all just sets us up for a HELL of a two hour ride tonight. But, before we get there, I thought we'd talk about a few things. So I'll be back with a final post - before the finale of Twin Peaks: The Return - a little bit later on...

For a bit of humour... Bad Cooper's swansong...

i'm surprised you didn't mention that jerry horne watched the whole richard horne gets crispy scene... he seems as baked as ever and can't even seem to figure out \how to properly used the binoculars he has...

so my question is this, where are they and just how close is evil coop to twin peaks at this point? has to be pretty close due to being in the same area as where jerry wanders i would think...

<edited to add> also... does sonny jim seem like a new kid since dougie cooper decided to play with the electrical socket? entirely new demeanor especially when greeting the mitchum brothers...

Last Edited by alienbaby on 09/03/2017 04:48 PM

I think Jerry managed to save his eyesight by looking the wrong way through those binoculars. Image looking at an arc welding machine with them the right way round.

I wish Bad Cooper could be an avenging angel of sorts who destroys those who deserve it. An avenging tulpa...

In another Universe/Dimension he would be.

Last Edited by keybored on 09/03/2017 05:20 PM

Top Thread!

It looks like we've got some last minute stragglers in the mailbox...










I messaged you.

And you know that I know about wild theories. I have also thought about the Fireman being Cooper, so don't feel alone. And Lucy is wonky as hell. Something is up. Remember Andy's White Lodge vision - things are shaking like a rift is opening between worlds and Andy sets Lucy right in the middle of the hallway.


The thing I have had the hardest time with is trying to figure out how Laura Palmer figures into this grand finale. I guess we don't have long to wait now, huh?










I've thought about it. In fact, I was just asking somebody yesterday if E's and O's had any meaning in Japanese. Like the A's and O's do for people from the Philippines. They said no.

There's also Candie = Diane-C, Mandie = Diane-M, and Sandie = Diane-S. And the Pink Girls will be at the Sheriff's station soon.

However, Diane being Naido would make sense in the fact that Naido tried to help Cooper in The Mauve World. However it all works out, it should be a real trip.










Yep. I mentioned a LONG time ago that I thought these might be Tulpas (though I don't think that we were calling them Tulpas yet) or just people made from Diane's DNA. Buit now it looks like there can also be people made from a Tulpa - like Sonny Jim Jones appears to be. He's really Agent Cooper's son, but a Cooper Tulpa apparently made him with Janey-E.










I love it! Facing the final red curtain.










I DID mention Jerry Horne watching it all go down in the synopsis. Are YOU baked?

I think that they are in the Ghostwood National Forest right next door to the town of Twin Peaks and very close to both Jack Rabbits Palace as well as Glastonbury Grove.

As far as Sonny Jim goes, I think the kid did some quick growing up that day. I didn't see anything too suspicious.










I just want some of Jerry's hydroponic weed for tonight's finale...










I think it'a a LOT more likely that he will be one dead doppelgänger by the end of Part 18.










I smell a spin-off.



















And now, on to some fun stuff and last minute thoughts and theories...



NAIDO'S ORIGINS?

Could this be the origins of Naido? Just watch it - you'll be happy that you did...





THE SEARCH FOR THE ZONE WEBSITE

The counter on Bill Hastings' website reached zero at midnight this morning. AND...nothing. It started going back up again. Here's a link in case it comes into play during the finale...

[link to thesearchforthezone.com]



CREATING TULPAS

They come out how you are now. So if Cooper made Janey-E a copy of himself it would be who he is at that moment including all of the recent memories. The trouble with Diane's Tulpa was that it had her memory immediately after the rape so it was quite traumatized to begin with. Hence her series of male suitors, the smoking, the drinking, the general nervousness, etc. The rape actually happened to the REAL Diane. Wherever she is now.



INANIMATE TULPAS

So, is this other worldly Roadhouse a fake Black Lodge version like I've been thinking? Or, after Part 16, are we being told that this Roadhouse is being dreamed up by Audrey Horne? What I'm really asking is - can buildings and places be Tulpas? Are there inanimate Tulpas? Can these Lodge entities create places? Or even worlds? UH-OH!



LINDA

I know that we've still got Mickey's wife over in the New Fat Trout Trailer Park that I've thought all along would end up being THE Linda. And she still might be. But there's always a chance that it's Evil Cooper and Diane's daughter from THAT rape. Though it COULD still easily be Richard's twin sister.





THE FURNACE ROOM DOOR

So what's behind that friggin' closed door down in the furnace room of the Great Northern Hotel? Here's my guess.

We heard the same Tibetan Singing Bowl bell sound that we heard in the Great Northern Hotel at the Las Vegas hospital. And that was when Phillip Gerard appeared to Agent Cooper as he woke up. He's been Phillip Gerard on the credits during all of Twin Peaks: The Return. has anybody else been wondering about MIKE?

I think that MIKE may be what's behind that closed door in the furnace room at the Great Northern Hotel. I think that in that extra furnace room, closet, or whatever it is, we may see a scene that looks something like this...





EVIL COOPER'S DATE SLIP

When Phillip Jeffries said "we used to talk" to Evil Cooper, he tells Jeffries that it was in 1989 - which is WRONG. So I believe that Jeffries knew that it WASN'T the real Agent Cooper and that Jeffries gave him the wrong coordinates on purpose. The fact that they match with somebody else's wrong coordinates is another story. Anyways, see for yourself...



The complete Phillip Jeffries scene from The Missing Pieces can be seen here. He mentions February 1989 because he knows Laura's murder will be takling place then. But it was several months before - in 1988 - when he pops into that office...





PHILLIP JEFFRIES AND ALBERT ROSENFIELD

So, are these two in cahoots? We know that Phillip Jeffries supposedly contacted Albert once and talked to him about saving Agent Cooper (that whole "man in Columbia" fiasco). Are they STILL working together? That could be why there are TWO sets of coordinates leading to what appeared to be a trap set on that rock outcropping where Richard Horne ended up getting fried.

Think about it - they already had the trap set. It all depended on what people said and did. Diane starts texting with someone who seems to be working against the FBI and Agent Cooper. The FBI discovers that she's working for the wrong side (they don't realize that she may be a Tulpa or Lodge entity yet). They already know that there's something hinky about the Cooper that they saw in the South Dakota prison. So Albert let's Diane see the picture of the coordinates on Ruth's arm - that he had already doctored - leading whoever she is working with to the trap.

Meanwhile, the Phillip Jeffries Cháhú (Chinese for teapot) has to make a judgement call whenever he meets or converses with any Coopers. So they talk for awhile. Jeffries reminds Cooper of something that happened prior to when he was "born" - the scene at the Philadelphia FBI office when Jeffries popped in after being missing for almost two years. But Evil Cooper says that it was in 1989 which gives him away as an imposter. So he also gets one of the sets of coordinates that leads to the trap that Jeffries and Albert set.

Of course, if the above is all true it would mean that Gordon Cole had been left out of the loop. The new question then would be why.



THE TWENTY-FIVE YEARS

I think that it's hard for doppelgängers to relate to times from before they were "born". They seem to not come into existence until a person wanders into The Waiting Room or has some serious interaction with a Lodge resident. We've seen quite a few doppelgängers, but none of people still alive and untouched by the Lodges. Or something like that.

I think that is what Evil Cooper meant when he told Richard Horne that he was 25 years older than he was. The real Cooper - Dale Bartholomew Cooper - was supposedly born on April 19, 1954. Making him just over 60 during Twin Peaks: The Return. Richard Horne should be about 25 during Twin Peaks: The Return. So Evil Cooper should have said that he was 35 years older than Richard. But Evil Cooper feels like he has lived 25 years. So when Richard pops up, he says that he's been around for twenty-five years longer than Richard has. I'm not sure what - if anything - this might mean. But it seemed weird since the years mentioned were off by a decade.



IT'S GOOD TO BE WRONG SOMETIMES

Speaking of being off, I'm glad I was wrong about Sonny Jim Jones biting the big one. I thought he was a goner for sure. Who knows - maybe I'll be wrong about the death of Sheriff Harry S. Truman. Though I do maintain that he's either dead or coming back in the finale tonight. They can't just leave him in hospice like this.



RICHARD HORNE DOES NOT AGREE/THE COORDINATES

Now Richard Horne, on the other hand, is NOT happy about being wrong. And if the bad coordinates came from Jeffries and Diane, then the good coordinates that Evil Cooper is carrying could have only come from the ones that Ray Monroe got from Bill Hastings' secretary Betty who died mysteriously in a car crash soon after Ray got his hands on said coordinates.

So, where exactly do these coordinates lead? Is it really the Twin Peaks Sheriff's Department jail? Wouldn't they just call it that and forget about all of those fancy numbers? It really can't be to Glastonbury Grove - even though in Part 2 we saw Hawk heading there while talking to the still alive Log Lady on the phone - because Evil Cooper wouldn't need coordinates to know how to get there. Plus, these are probably the coordinates that Major Garland Briggs had Bill Hastings and Ruth Davenport find for him. So where DO they lead? To Jack Rabbits Palace?



JACK RABBITS PALACE

And speaking of Jack Rabbits Palace, is Hawk and Company going to head back out there on 10/2 at 2:53? And, if so, shouldn't Andy start getting their lunchboxes together?





AGENT COOPER'S NORMA/ANNIE DILEMMA

If the good FBI Special Agent Dale Cooper is finally out, then he has to be wondering, "how's Annie"? Right? RIGHT? Realistically, that should be one of the first things that he wants to find out when he arrives in Twin Peaks. After some cherry pie and coffee, of course. WAIT! That's when he'll see Norma. And then...

Hawk even mentioned Annie - though he didn't connect her with Norma - when he told Sheriff Frank about the missing pages from Laura Palmer's diary. You can't pretend that she wasn't there. Agent Cooper rescued her. Sheriff Harry S. Truman found her with Evil Cooper at Glastonbury Grove. They just suddenly reappeared. But still, who was she? WHO IS ANNIE?

She must have been a Tulpa then, right? But Norma acknowledged her as Norma's sister. Of course, Norma had a mother then, too. And Annie isn't mentioned anywhere in The Secret History Of Twin Peaks. Mom is mentioned - as being dead. All of this needs to be addressed in order for everything to come together - the original series, the book, Twin Peaks: The Return, and beyond.



THE THREE #6 POLES

Okay. On to the electrical pole at Sparkwood & 21. One of Andy's White Lodge visions of the future centered around this pole being shown in three consecutive shots. It could, of course, mean 666. But this pole has always represented death - the Teresa Banks murder during Fire Walk With Me as well as the little boy that Richard Horne ran over with the truck in Twin Peaks: The Return. And it has also represented those that have "disappeared" - like Special Agent Chester Desmond in Fire Walk With Me.



ALBERT'S ALTERNATE TIMELINE NAME

Remember when I showed you that the Hayward living rooms were completely different within a week's span of time - from Fire Walk With Me to the original series. I've suspected ever since - partly because of things that writer Robert Engels said during interviews - that we have ALWAYS been dealing with at least two timelines and possibly even three or more at times. There definitely seems to be three during Twin Peaks: The Return.

At any rate, Albert's last name - Rosenfield is NOT Rosenfield during Fire Walk With Me. He is very clearly credited Fire Walk With Me as being Albert Rosenfeld. In the original series, he is credited as FBI Agent Albert Rosenfield.

Things like this have been there the whole time. Hidden in plain sight.



CHANGING IDENTITIES/THE JUMPING MAN

So, I've been thinking. If Diane is in the Twin Peaks Sheriff's Department and is someone else - Naido, the Drunk, Lucy, Jesse, etc. - how can this be? If Candie is really Laura or Diane or anybody else - how can this be? If Ronette Pulaski is also the American Girl - how can this be?

Is it possible that The Jumping Man technology that we saw in the house above the Convenience Store - when The Jumping Man literally tuned in to Phillip Jeffries so that Evil Cooper could talk to him - can also be used to "change" a person into somebody else? Was Diane taken inside The Jumping Man and spit out as somebody else? Are people being replaced - some with similar features and names and some with completely different faces and names - as part of an overall infestation of Twin Peaks.

I know that sounds nuts. But no more nuts than what is probably going to be revealed in just a couple of hours from now.



AUDREY'S DREAMWORLD

Which brings us to THIS. Audrey's Dreamworld. A place where nobody knows your name. I'm pretty sure that all of the wonky Charlie and Roadhouse scenes with ten thousand people being mentioned that we've never heard of before were all just figments of Audrey's imagination. Or, more appropriately, participants in Audrey's Dream.

OR...

Are they people like her that have also been taken away someplace. Is the white room that Audrey is now in what some people refer to as the "nuthouse"? Where all of the people that we have heard are missing actually are? And, if so, were they taken and are being held against their wills?

OR...

Is Audrey Horne actually in a coma and hearing things being said around her that is then making her make them all become real? Boy, maybe I'M the one that's nuts. That sounds crazy, right?

OR...



OPERATION: TWIN PEAKS

Is this all - especially the town of Twin Peaks - just a computer simulation experiment being run by the government and military? Maybe it was started by Dougie Milford and Major Briggs. That's the good version. The OTHER version would have it being some kind of alien or inter-dimensional beings that are running the program on people that have been abducted and/or captured.

Either way, in this little scenario, everybody that is hooked into the Twin Peaks program projects whatever it is that THEY want it to be. They literally create the world - and town - that they end up living in. All are thinking that they live in this town called Twin Peaks, but they are all just jointly hooked up to the computer simulation and are guinea pigs for Operation: Twin Peaks. Things are thrown into the simulation by the people monitoring it - like a girl's murder or a food critic coming to town - just to see how the various people react to it.

Audrey Horne's vital signs started going bonkers and she was pulled out of the program. That is what we saw at the end of Part 16. The way to pull somebody out of it is to show them their own reflection which is why Audrey awoke with a mirror in her hand.

Hey, I'm spitballin' here!

This theory actually makes EVERYTHING ever seen make sense. When we were in the Hayward house during the series, it was always seen through Donna's eyes. But when we flashbacked to Fire Walk With Me, we were living Laura Palmer's final week and so everything we saw was from HER perspective. And her perception of what the Hayward house should look like is what we saw in Fire Walk With Me. Which is completely different than Donna's.

Maybe there is only one "dreamer" for a certain amount of people in each simulation. So in the one where Audrey is the dreamer, she's dealing with Charlie, Billy, Tina, Chuck, Megan, Paul, Chloe, Emma and all of the other new names I left out. That's why we don't know anyone. In Big Ed's simulation, he just made Norma come back to him because he's figured out how to use his head to make things happen.

Hmmm...did I mention that this simulation might be run by the military industrial complex?








That's all for now.

I wish you all a YREV, VERY good viewing of the finale. This should be SOOOOO cool. I love you all and I'm glad we took this journey together. I'm sure that we will be talking on this thread about Twin Peaks for a long time to come. I'm sad that it's over - like most of you probably are - but excited to see where it goes tonight. Some of us have been waiting a LONG time for what is about to occur.

There will be NO messing around tonight. Agent Cooper does NOT have time for any bullshit. It's time to get things done!

There will be NO messing around tonight. Agent Cooper does NOT have time for any bullshit. It's time to get things done!

It's nice to see that the Conversation is lively around the dinner table leading up to tonights 2-part conclusion. Can't wait. Enjoy :-)ALL

Time to get the coffee and cherry pie ready! I hope everyone enjoys the finale!

is the season any good?

Here we go!

Honestly, it isn't. The writing is terrible, the new characters are bland and one-dimensional, there's no point to the majority of the scenes, and even the original characters are a mockery of what they once were.

The formerly interesting character of Dr. Jacoby is even used to mock Alex J o n e s and conspiracy theorists, and Lynch made himself the star of the show, rather than Dale Cooper. It's shameful.

There's an excellent thread called "Twin Peaks Return: The Profoundly Disappointed Support Group" that lists hundreds of detailed reasons why this season is so dreadful - written by fans of Twin Peaks, no less.

I can't list the direct link to the thread, here, but you should be able to find it via a web search engine.

If you're looking for a television series that explores the exact same ideas, symbols and issues, though, you should check out "Carnivale", if you haven't seen it, yet. It ran from 2003-2005, it's absolutely brilliant, and it looks as though many of the elements from that show were poorly plagiarized in the new season of Twin Peaks.

F**K you AC

Derp Derp
You know

Let's put it this way, tonight's 2 hours better be the most mind-fucking-blowing 2 hours of my life I've ever hard, or I'm going to have to go ahead and agree with you.

I thought with episodes 1-4 and episode 8, we were in good shape for a strong finish. We'll see.

Do we need to kill you trolls with fire to stop you or...?

Just another one of those mature, classy and articulate comments from a fanboy.

Fanboys always have such charming and witty comebacks. I don't get why people don't take you Hollywood media obsessed folks seriously.

/s

LOL...Obviously you didn't bother to watch the show you're critiquing. What a pill.