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Do you not realize how difficult it is for one to be born within the land of lepers?



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How are you defining Reincarnation?
This is how I define reincarnation:
"Reincarnation is the belief that the soul migrates from one body to another, different body, in a long (possibly endless) succession."

If you believe this, the bible does not support your belief.

The most respected scholar to propose the idea was J. D. M. Derrett. However, he was corrected by linguistics/Greek scholars.

IMO: I don't believe you are evil nor do I believe you are a satanic like some have accused you, you are just misinformed.

Bottom line is that there is no substantiation of reincarnation from a biblical view.

I have investigated this before, its a rabbit trail, and soon you learn there many Christian scholars you can trust,have reached the same conclusion: no evidence of reincarnation is in the Old or New Testaments.
 Quoting: Unchained


This sounds dangerously close to an Appeal To Authority fallacy... If 'trusted Christian scholars' don't believe this, then it can't possibly be true - right?

I have a question about this though... Which of these trusted Christian scholars know ancient Greek better than Origen himself? One of the most influential figures in the earliest days of Christianity, who was a staunch defender of the theology against attacks from critics/opponents, and who also happened to believe in the concept of the transmigration of souls... So Origen, a learned man who spoke the native Greek tongue of those days, who spent so much of his energy teaching and defending the early Christian faith - just happened to misread & misinterpret the earliest known scriptures? Or are we to believe he understood the scriptures but decided instead to adopt a belief in something which (modern day Christians claim) is totally refuted by those scriptures?

Something isn't adding up here...

Did Roman Emperors, Popes, and Bishops have an influence in what was to be deemed 'approved/accepted' theology? Yep... Did various translators like Jerome and the KJV translators change and alter meanings of scripture either intentionally or unintentionally, from one language to the next? Yep... Does a spoken message become less and less accurate when plotted against the passage of time? Yep...
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Didn't John say he wasn't Elijah?
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Excellent point!

My opinion is that he simply didn't remember his previous existence which I'm sure most can agree with.

Good job in asking the right questions.

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Lol already gave you karma..
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I was the one that wrote "Love to U!" after what you said in the Hell thread.

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One of the keys to trusting the Almighty:
Matthew 19
13 Then children were brought to him that he might lay his hands on them and pray. The disciples rebuked the people, 14 but Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them, for to such belongs the kingdom of heaven.” 15 And he laid his hands on them and went away.
In what He says, in what he does, trust and do not stray far from Him. Rabbit holes and your ego will blind you such that you can not see Him.

BTW: He healed my wife tonight from horrible pain.
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Jesus said to them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep. But I am going that I may awaken him from sleep.”
(the disciples promptly misunderstood)
 Quoting: JWP

But... but...

They say we die only once.

Does that mean Lazarus is still alive to this day and will never die?!??

Or shall we make up another 'rule' that says...

"OK... everyone dies once except Lazarus Because we said so"

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Hebrews 11:35 Women received their dead raised to life again.
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Whoops.

Looks like someone found another one.

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Well OP, who were you? Be specific.
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Probably a Money Changer.

Love of Money
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Of course it exists
That's the terrifying part to me
Who wants to come back here
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Some come back because they chose to, names change, same spirit.
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How are you defining Reincarnation?
This is how I define reincarnation:
"Reincarnation is the belief that the soul migrates from one body to another, different body, in a long (possibly endless) succession."
 Quoting: Unchained

Everyone is resurrected at the end.

The Believers are saved, though their Soul may face refinement...

1 Peter 4:12
"Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you"


Remember... Soul is flammable. Spirit is not.

The unbelievers will be thrown into the Multiverse Hell (one of the three Hells) where torments await them...

Luke 16:23
"And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom"


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Although the Soul can be destroyed, the Spirit is not destroyed.

Thus, the "Worm dieth not".

The Worm is DNA or Spirit... A, C, G, T.

The 'Code' does not die...

unclemikey-702

Hell is thrown into the Lake of Fire and the Spirit, now stripped of the Soul begins life anew in the Lowest Parts of the Earth... i.e. the Bottomless Pit (the Womb).
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Of course it exists
That's the terrifying part to me
Who wants to come back here
 Quoting: seventyx7

Exactly!!!!

I can think of no greater punishment then to come back to this world again.

You can tell who is living the 'good life' on this thread.

They have no clue what it's like to suffer.

No clue at all.

Those that have suffered, or know others that are suffering have no issue believing what the Bible has been saying all along.

The world is Hell.


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Years ago on C2C AM with Art Bell, Father Malachi Martin, a great scholar and religious man spoke about the "Mystery of Inequity". He explained that We are experiencing the " Mystery of Inequity" ,a time when God has withdrawn his grace and covenant with man and allowed evil to dim our human senses causing us to lose our minds.

Look around you, don't you see how crazy people of every walk of life are acting?
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Iniquity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74977474


So I misspelled a word, does that distract from the truth that I was attempting to share?

You turds that love to derail any honest discussion on any subject make me sick.

Make a meaningful observation, but ridicule is simply ridiculous.

neener
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Years ago on C2C AM with Art Bell, Father Malachi Martin, a great scholar and religious man spoke about the "Mystery of Inequity". He explained that We are experiencing the " Mystery of Inequity" ,a time when God has withdrawn his grace and covenant with man and allowed evil to dim our human senses causing us to lose our minds.

Look around you, don't you see how crazy people of every walk of life are acting?
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Iniquity - immoral or grossly unfair behavior.

Inequity - lack of fairness or justice.

hmm
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How do you get turd, derail and ridicule

out of pondering the different, but similar meaning of different words

from one word

and even actually from one letter?

Is your pride that fragile?
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Let's hear what you have to say.
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In essentiality the spirit of the creature world is regenerated, not reincarnated; that is, the spirit of the creature born or generated in the earthy body (material) is reborn into and regenerated in the pure, unblemishable body (spiritual) created in the beginning of the Creation suitable for such occupation.
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Hence, the labors of Messiah being paramount, general reincarnation becomes unnecessary; more especially since progress in the spiritual body is more perfect than in the earthy. Reincarnation also limits multiplication; while multiplication is a Divine edict bearing upon the ultimate peopling of space with intelligences, and with the eternal sparklings of the inanimate. Owing to the transmission of blood and characteristics, however, the spirit of the progenitor still remains identified with the offspring. This may be construed to mean reincarnation, but even by such construction the spirits of both progenitor and offspring are independent of each other; each to reappear in the spiritual semblance of its material existence, yet subject to spiritual progression. In connection with this thought it must be considered that blood is the life; life is the Divine Spark; and that the Blood — the Divine Spark — shall not be eaten, it being God's endowment to the creature.
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Oh that reminds me!

Mark 9:47-48
"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire"

"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched"


Have you ever wondered what that verse means?

Wonder no more.

Reincarnation and karma...

It is better to PAY OFF YOUR KARMIC DEBT IN THIS LIFE AND GO TO HEAVEN RATHER THAN NOT GOING AND HAVING TO PAY IT OFF IN THE NEXT LIFE VIA REINCARNATION.

That is precisely what that verse is saying.
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Do you believe that reincarnation is supported by the Christian Bible?

Are you tired of hypocritical, judgmental so called "Christians" calling you "demon possessed", "Satan" and telling you that you will "burn in Hell for all of eternity" because you believe in reincarnation?

Do you believe that the countless documented cases of children who remember past lives are *not* "possessed by devils"?

Do you believe that we've been lied to as to what Hell really is?

If you answered yes to any of these questions, then this thread is for you!

Let's hear what you have to say.

 Quoting: Base12


In whatever I'm in it's legit but I'm not saying the environment is legit.

Biblically? There are statements like "spirit of elijah" and things about "reincarnation".

My advice? Don't consent to it being a reality if you're a Christian or not a Christian. Say "bye bye matrix (and the flesh)" unless you want to be an energetic slave here and do things that don't confirm to any pre-established sets of morality you might of had.
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I like you OP, but absolutely and categorically disagree, and i have some threads here dealing with this subject.

Reincarnation, to be blunt, is an excuse for sin, and do as thou wilt, ie, i will cleanse the "DEBT IN THE NEXT LIFE". Scripture is plain, there is only One Life, but there are TWO DEATHS.

There is a simpler explanation for past life remembrance, i so like Occams razor, the fallen, have seen it all, and happily play/enable higher self for those who wish to do so.

But i digress, will gladly post my thread links, for further debate, with your permission, still debate is not Him or His power.
are you willing to pray with me, for example, Lord YAHshua/Jesus, if You are real, still alive having risen from the dead, and coming soon, for Your bride, confirm it in power and truth and love to us both, as well, as showing, why reincarnation is not of You, whilst, incarnation, is, amen Father

Thank you OP, bless you in Him.
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Yes

"My past lives and what the bible says about reincarnation"

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Man is the microcosm of the universe!

"As above so below"!

This is why it is said that God is not mocked!

Whatever we do in this life echoes throughout the universe for all eternity!

We cannot ever escape God's law because God is everywhere in everything and in us! That being said though, it is hubris to think of ourselves as "God's" since we are a species with amnesia for the most part.

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This image from your above post, Base12, reminds me
of the mandella that Carl Jung was photographed with
before he died. This was said to be one of his most
favorite symbols (though I never did find out why he
felt that way.) Maybe "squaring the circle" is why
he liked it--it looks very much like the image you
provided, only stylized like the Tibetan Buddhists would
fashion it to be.

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CJzMandalla

Interesting, don't you think?

cheers
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Resurrection is not Reincarnation.

Get it?
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No he doesn't get it.
His mind has been poisoned by seducing spirits.

See his other threads, he brings some interesting stuff and then he adds the poison, in this case it's the eastern mysticism he tries to fuse with the Bible.

Just like rat poison, a lot of sweet stuff and then the drop of poison that kills.

The televangelists does the same dog and pony show.

The Bible speaks on this subject as well:
30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Reincarnation is the same garbage as the catholic heresy called purgatory. That also think you as a person can save yourselves, that's what reincarnation basically teaches.

The Bible says you can't blot out your evil works with your good works. You need someone to impute their righteousness to you, that someone is Jesus Christ.

Reincarnation is basically denying the message of Jesus Christ, what OP says is "oh sin is no big deal, you'll just be forgiven and reincarnated" while Jesus says he's the only way to the Father:
John 14:6King James Version (KJV)
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

you can tell it earlier in the thread where he makes straw men about girls that suicide and garbage arguments like that, also showing OP has no clue about the seriousness of sin.

Jesus had to die to save us from sin, that's how serious that is, he had to die so you could live, by running with this reincarnation bs you're basically doing like all the other fools trying to get in some other way:
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a bunch of thieves and robbers, that's all.

It's a garbage teaching propped up by some colour pictures. No depth, it's as shallow as India and hinduism. Just more works BS.
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Oh that reminds me!

Mark 9:47-48
"And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire"

"Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched"


Have you ever wondered what that verse means?

Wonder no more.

Reincarnation and karma...

It is better to PAY OFF YOUR KARMIC DEBT IN THIS LIFE AND GO TO HEAVEN RATHER THAN NOT GOING AND HAVING TO PAY IT OFF IN THE NEXT LIFE VIA REINCARNATION.

That is precisely what that verse is saying.
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No it's not saying that, watch yourself here.
You've just stepped into a minefield, my advice if go backwards in your tracks, or you might step on a spiritual landmine and then that's it.
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OP - "you shall not surely die"
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^^^
That is called Transhumanism.

The promise of immortality.

Extending Telomeres will probably be their first attempt at this.

Transhumanism is the Mark of the Beast.
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*sigh*

You're even more of a heretick than I first thought.
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Check this out...

Matthew 16:28
"Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom"


Q: How can some of the folks standing there with Jesus not die until Jesus returns thousands of years later?

A: Reincarnation

So many verses are easily explained by this simple concept.

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I get it now!

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But Lord, he stinketh!

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Years ago on C2C AM with Art Bell, Father Malachi Martin, a great scholar and religious man spoke about the "Mystery of Inequity". He explained that We are experiencing the " Mystery of Inequity" ,a time when God has withdrawn his grace and covenant with man and allowed evil to dim our human senses causing us to lose our minds.

Look around you, don't you see how crazy people of every walk of life are acting?
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Iniquity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74977474


So I misspelled a word, does that distract from the truth that I was attempting to share?

You turds that love to derail any honest discussion on any subject make me sick.

Make a meaningful observation, but ridicule is simply ridiculous.

neener
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Years ago on C2C AM with Art Bell, Father Malachi Martin, a great scholar and religious man spoke about the "Mystery of Inequity". He explained that We are experiencing the " Mystery of Inequity" ,a time when God has withdrawn his grace and covenant with man and allowed evil to dim our human senses causing us to lose our minds.

Look around you, don't you see how crazy people of every walk of life are acting?
 Quoting: Loup Garou


Iniquity - immoral or grossly unfair behavior.

Inequity - lack of fairness or justice.

hmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74977474


How do you get turd, derail and ridicule

out of pondering the different, but similar meaning of different words

from one word

and even actually from one letter?

Is your pride that fragile?
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I stand corrected. You are not a TURD, the way you initially critiqued me misled me. Sorry about that, and thank you kind Sir for correcting my spelling and enlightening me and others on the very profound and different meanings of the words.

Words do indeed have power.

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Jesus said to them, “Our friend Lazarus has fallen asleep. But I am going that I may awaken him from sleep.”
(the disciples promptly misunderstood)
 Quoting: JWP

But... but...

They say we die only once.

Does that mean Lazarus is still alive to this day and will never die?!??

Or shall we make up another 'rule' that says...

"OK... everyone dies once except Lazarus Because we said so"

rolleyes
 Quoting: Base12

Mark 12:24-27King James Version (KJV)

24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?

25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

26 And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?

27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.
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refreshing thread op

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You believe reincarnation because you want to believe reincarnation because you refuse to believe in your final accountability to God.
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:9teen: That's about it.
 Quoting: Judethz


So you’re judged on one birth. Or you’re judged on a number of births. What’s more logical?
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Yu have never actually thought about it mathematically because even that shows it to be impossible.

How? Count the living souls now... and then work backwards with ever smaller numbers.

How does that work? It doesn't.

Simple proof that I bet you cannot understand.
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In the Golden Age the population is small and in the Iron Age the population is large and in the Golden Age the population is small. What’s so hard to understand?





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