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The United States of America Sues the United States corporation

Federal Judge Kathleen M. Tafoya attempts to block case and Trump Named as Defendant



"The united States of America along with numerous other claimants have filed an action at law against the United States corporation in the de jure District Court of the United States in the case numbered according to the statutory system of numbering 17-cv-01046. The Supreme Court of the United States ruled there are two separate United States in Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244. In said case, the court ruled that the Constitution for the United States of America does not apply to the United States corporate territories. "Constitutional restrictions and limitations were not applicable to the areas of lands, enclaves, territories and possessions over which the Congress had exclusive legislative authority." Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244. The congress does not have “exclusive legislative authority” within the several states which are protected by the United States of America as strictly bound by the Constitution for the United States of America.

Justice John Marshal Harlan wrote the dissenting opinion in Downes v. Bidwell stating “if the principles thus announced should ever receive the sanction of a majority of this court, a radical and mischievous change in our system of government will result. We will, in that event, pass from the era of constitutional liberty, guarded and protected by a written constitution into an era legislative absolutism...It will be an evil day for American liberty if the theory of government outside the Supreme law of the land finds lodgement in our Constitutional jurisprudence. No higher duty rests upon this court than to exert its full authority to prevent all violation of the principles of the Constitution." Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244

Justice Harlan’s fears have come to pass and the United States corporation has been operating against the people within the states and outside the United States federal corporation's territories. As can be evidenced by the revised Trading With the Enemy Act, the United States corporation has referred to the America people as “the enemy”.

The case in which the United States of America has filed an action at law against the United States corporation which includes numerous other government corporate agencies and agents, the other claimants, being the people of the United States of America are agents for the United States of America and they are duty bound to assure the rights of the people are upheld against “enemies, both foreign and domestic.” The United States corporation has made it abundantly clear in the Trading in the Enemy Act that it considers the United States corporation an enemy of the United States of America. As agents for the United States of America, the other claimants in the federal case had formed a real grand jury as permitted by law and upheld by Justice Antonin Scalia in U.S. v. Williams in 1992 and had investigated the legitimacy of the oaths of office and bonds for numerous public officials. The Constitution of Colorado requires that public officials take and oath of office that supports the Constitution of Colorado and the Constitution for the United States of America. Their investigation found that most public servants, including judges, have not taken a constitutionally mandated oath and have not filed a bond with the secretary of State as required by law."<snip> [link to afreecountry.com (secure)]
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The United States corporation has made it abundantly clear in the Trading in the Enemy Act that it considers the United States corporation an enemy of the United States of America.

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Possibly setting up a new revolution here....
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Possibly setting up a new revolution here....
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I know, for a fact, that President Trump is aware of this action.
He has been proving to patriots, that he is what he says he is, as witnessed by the recent withdraw from the Paris Accord, and notably his budget.

The untied States of America has been usurped by BAR attorneys, aka, British agents ... Common Law has been tossed out of courts and replaced with Administrative Law.

As the 'swamp drains' I believe we will see the case move forward. Many Grand Jury's have already been organized to 'judge' the usurpers.
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I know, for a fact, that President Trump is aware of this action.
He has been proving to patriots, that he is what he says he is, as witnessed by the recent withdraw from the Paris Accord, and notably his budget.

The untied States of America has been usurped by BAR attorneys, aka, British agents ... Common Law has been tossed out of courts and replaced with Administrative Law.

As the 'swamp drains' I believe we will see the case move forward. Many Grand Jury's have already been organized to 'judge' the usurpers.
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Correct.
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I know, for a fact, that President Trump is aware of this action.
He has been proving to patriots, that he is what he says he is, as witnessed by the recent withdraw from the Paris Accord, and notably his budget.

The untied States of America has been usurped by BAR attorneys, aka, British agents ... Common Law has been tossed out of courts and replaced with Administrative Law.

As the 'swamp drains' I believe we will see the case move forward. Many Grand Jury's have already been organized to 'judge' the usurpers.
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Yup - behind the scenes MAGA is happening in the courts.

5D chess while the left plays marbles..
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I know, for a fact, that President Trump is aware of this action.
He has been proving to patriots, that he is what he says he is, as witnessed by the recent withdraw from the Paris Accord, and notably his budget.

The untied States of America has been usurped by BAR attorneys, aka, British agents ... Common Law has been tossed out of courts and replaced with Administrative Law.

As the 'swamp drains' I believe we will see the case move forward. Many Grand Jury's have already been organized to 'judge' the usurpers.
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Yup - behind the scenes MAGA is happening in the courts.

5D chess while the left plays marbles..
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Yes. It is indeed a thing of beauty! MAGA!
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Thank you Mr President. Maybe that was
another thing they disliked about Scalia.
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UPDATE EDIT:

DAMN, DAMN, DAMN....The case number stated does not correspond to the 'information' noted in the OP article.

Either this is is proof the info is bogus, or, the case number has been purposely changed for unknown reasons.

That said...I'm keeping my comment up, because it helps explain what this alledged lawsuit is about.

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If Trump has this up his sleeve...yowie zowie!

This paper was submitted for public release on May 26th, by an anonymous source.

There really are few further details. The case number is noted to be: 17-cv-01046, undated, as stated below:

"The united States of America along with numerous other claimants have filed an action at law against the United States corporation in the de jure District Court of the United States in the case numbered according to the statutory system of numbering..."

The release infers that this is not a brand new filing, as stated in bold, below:


The case was filed in a court of record, which is by definition, a court that proceeds according to the common law and the magistrate of the court is not permitted to make any decisions. In spite of that fact, the magistrate, Kathleen Tafoya has twice attempted to file an order in the court in an attempt to interfere with the case. It should be noted that Tafoya is also a member of the BAR and has not registered as a foreign agent. The court has corrected the magistrate and ordered her to no longer interfere with the court or she will be held in contempt of court..."

As seen in the excerpts below, it goes on to explain that the Judge attempting to block this has invalid credentials, and, as such, no authority:

"... It should be noted that Tafoya is also a member of the BAR and has not registered as a foreign agent...

"...BAR members are granted the title of nobility “esquire”...

"...The Constitution for the United States of America disallows the United States from granting a title of nobility at Article I, Section 9, Clause 1...

"...This amendment has been hidden from the public for years and has never been repealed...

"...The conspiracy of the BAR includes changing definitions in Black’s Law dictionary to hide the law...

"...More evidence is the change of the definition of “court of record” to hide the fact that a court of record proceeds according to the common law and the “duties of the magistrate are independent of that of the tribunal”. In other words, the judge is not allowed to make any decision or orders."


I'd like to find out when this was filed, on what date, and by whom.

It could very well be valid.

Still...I really have to wonder why, if valid, this is being released at all. As we've been witness to numerous times in past years, all efforts to block important actions have a way of coming to naught.

I would much rather wake up one morning and find out we won out country back, just as clandestinely as it was somehow stolen from us.

In recent years, other parties, such as the bloggerJudge Anna von Reitz, have published articles clearly outlining how our nation was usurped without our knowing, has been operating illegally as the private corporation under Admiralty Law, further outlining the steps needed to return us to a Sovereign nation, known as "the united States of America".

Hopefully others will come by the thread who understand this far better than I do.

If this proves to be a valid filing, by a representative of substance...this is pretty damn hopeful for us!

hf

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the gov has been kickin this can down the road for 150 years.oh when will my chickens come home to roost?
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I hope this is legit. The information within agrees in what I am familiar with especially the BAR association and the fact that our fake Gov't is actually a Corporation.

It is also my understanding that we will have Common law established so that matches up also.

Just need to see some dates and court doc number info which would be helpful with links to this post.
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Well...it IS an actual case.

I found one of the complaints related to it:

Civil Action No. 17-cv-01046-KMT (D. Colo. May. 3, 2017)

Excerpts of note:


The court must construe the complaint liberally because Plaintiffs are not represented by an attorney...For the reasons stated below, Plaintiffs will be directed to file an Amended Complaint...

...The Complaint is deficient because it does not comply with the pleading requirements of Rule 8 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. The twin purposes of a Complaint are to give the opposing parties fair notice of the basis for the claims against them so they may respond and to allow the court to conclude that the allegations, if proven, show that the plaintiffs are entitled to relief...

ORDERED that within thirty days from the date of this Order, Plaintiffs shall file an Amended Complaint that complies with this Order. It is

FURTHER ORDERED that Plaintiffs shall obtain the court-approved Complaint form, along with the applicable instructions, at www.cod.uscourts.gov, to be used in filing the Amended Complaint. It is

FURTHER ORDERED that if Plaintiffs fail to comply with this Order within the time allowed the court will dismiss the action without further notice.

Dated May 3, 2017.


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The opening article of this thread shows that the Judge named here has no jurisdiction.

Until we SEE the original lawsuit filed, I guess we remain in the dark. Donald Trump, having been named Defendant, would be the party representing our Unconstitutional Government.

So very mysterious at this point.

This seems to indicate that UNKNOWN PARTIES are attempting to sue our current Unconstitutional government to win our Constitutional Government back. Who are these parties. Maybe it's Trump, himself cool2

Who knows?
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...sigh
More "sovereign citizen" nonsense.
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whoa, if this is true is AMAZING!
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the B A R guild is the ultimate "TPTB"

it is an ancient secret society and most of the members have no idea what they are a part of.

so here we have one group claiming to be the original, praying (petitioning/suing) in their adversaries temple for relief. yeah, that will not end well.

FWIW these templars, the Temple BAR, the synagog of satan.

at least this will bring more attention to the real "elite"

the BAR Guild
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OP's source is a sovereign citizen rag.
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Well...it IS an actual case.

I found one of the complaints related to it:

Civil Action No. 17-cv-01046-KMT (D. Colo. May. 3, 2017)

Excerpts of note:


The court must construe the complaint liberally because Plaintiffs are not represented by an attorney...For the reasons stated below, Plaintiffs will be directed to file an Amended Complaint...

...The Complaint is deficient because it does not comply with the pleading requirements of Rule 8 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. The twin purposes of a Complaint are to give the opposing parties fair notice of the basis for the claims against them so they may respond and to allow the court to conclude that the allegations, if proven, show that the plaintiffs are entitled to relief...

ORDERED that within thirty days from the date of this Order, Plaintiffs shall file an Amended Complaint that complies with this Order. It is

FURTHER ORDERED that Plaintiffs shall obtain the court-approved Complaint form, along with the applicable instructions, at www.cod.uscourts.gov, to be used in filing the Amended Complaint. It is

FURTHER ORDERED that if Plaintiffs fail to comply with this Order within the time allowed the court will dismiss the action without further notice.

Dated May 3, 2017.


[link to casetext.com (secure)]

The opening article of this thread shows that the Judge named here has no jurisdiction.

Until we SEE the original lawsuit filed, I guess we remain in the dark. Donald Trump, having been named Defendant, would be the party representing our Unconstitutional Government.

So very mysterious at this point.

This seems to indicate that UNKNOWN PARTIES are attempting to sue our current Unconstitutional government to win our Constitutional Government back. Who are these parties. Maybe it's Trump, himself cool2

Who knows?
 Quoting: esoteric Morgan



Good find! I contacted the website where the law suit information was posted and asked if they could link the actual court doc to the post. I will see if I get a response.
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YUGE!
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Link to case text 17-cv-01046

Last Edited by duFontaine. on 06/01/2017 10:01 PM
"Accept now that all you have seen from the day of your birth on the surface of the earth, to the present, are wonderful only because the finite mind of man is confused with fragments of evidence, that, from whatever direction we meet them, spring from an unreachable infinity."

"There was a man who could create what could not be imagined. A temple so great you questioned if it was built with human hands. A man who built an idea into the greatest force the world has ever known. A world built from a single word. I care not for the folly of man but for the end of human contention."
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Here are some highlights, but it doesn't name the Plaintiffs. Sounds like some group that doesn't know what they're doing. Filing a pro se complaint in civil court. The Judge didn't block anything, they Plaintiffs didn't follow court procedure. If they were serious they might have put a bit more effort into it and at least filed the correct complaint with the correct information. And from this we don't even know what the complaints are.



"Plaintiffs initiated this action by filing a pro se Complaint. (Doc. No. 1.) They seek damages and various forms of declaratory judgment. The court must construe the complaint liberally because Plaintiffs are not represented by an attorney.



"The court has reviewed the Complaint and finds Plaintiffs fail to provide a short and plain statement of their claims in compliance with the pleading requirements of Rule 8 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Plaintiffs fail to provide a short and plain statement of their claims showing they are entitled to relief because they fail to provide specific and clear factual allegations in support of their claims.



"The court, however, will give Plaintiffs an opportunity to cure the deficiencies in the Complaint by submitting an Amended Complaint that meets the requirements of Fed. R. Civ. P. 8.



"Plaintiffs must show in the Cause of Action section of the Complaint how each named individual caused the deprivation of a federal right.


"to state a claim in federal court, a plaintiff must explain (1) what a defendant did to him; (2) when the defendant did it; (3) how the defendant's action harmed him; and (4) what specific legal right the defendant violated as to each and every claim.

Last Edited by duFontaine. on 06/01/2017 10:16 PM
"Accept now that all you have seen from the day of your birth on the surface of the earth, to the present, are wonderful only because the finite mind of man is confused with fragments of evidence, that, from whatever direction we meet them, spring from an unreachable infinity."

"There was a man who could create what could not be imagined. A temple so great you questioned if it was built with human hands. A man who built an idea into the greatest force the world has ever known. A world built from a single word. I care not for the folly of man but for the end of human contention."
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we need Judge NAPOLITANO to explain this stuff

please Mr Nap..... do piece on v=fox asap!!!
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Well...it IS an actual case.

I found one of the complaints related to it:

Civil Action No. 17-cv-01046-KMT (D. Colo. May. 3, 2017)

Excerpts of note:


The court must construe the complaint liberally because Plaintiffs are not represented by an attorney...For the reasons stated below, Plaintiffs will be directed to file an Amended Complaint...

...The Complaint is deficient because it does not comply with the pleading requirements of Rule 8 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. The twin purposes of a Complaint are to give the opposing parties fair notice of the basis for the claims against them so they may respond and to allow the court to conclude that the allegations, if proven, show that the plaintiffs are entitled to relief...

ORDERED that within thirty days from the date of this Order, Plaintiffs shall file an Amended Complaint that complies with this Order. It is

FURTHER ORDERED that Plaintiffs shall obtain the court-approved Complaint form, along with the applicable instructions, at www.cod.uscourts.gov, to be used in filing the Amended Complaint. It is

FURTHER ORDERED that if Plaintiffs fail to comply with this Order within the time allowed the court will dismiss the action without further notice.

Dated May 3, 2017.


[link to casetext.com (secure)]

The opening article of this thread shows that the Judge named here has no jurisdiction.

Until we SEE the original lawsuit filed, I guess we remain in the dark. Donald Trump, having been named Defendant, would be the party representing our Unconstitutional Government.

So very mysterious at this point.

This seems to indicate that UNKNOWN PARTIES are attempting to sue our current Unconstitutional government to win our Constitutional Government back. Who are these parties. Maybe it's Trump, himself cool2

Who knows?
 Quoting: esoteric Morgan



Good find! I contacted the website where the law suit information was posted and asked if they could link the actual court doc to the post. I will see if I get a response.
 Quoting: Bluebird1 66433951


Great idea! Hopefully they'll know how to locate it.

hf
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We're getting closer.

I'm really interested to see if this filing looks as if it has some merit.

Thanks!
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bump
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Well, it's about time

Most Yanks are too fucked up (brainwashed) to realise there are moar than one 'America'

There is the corporation UNITED STATES (see presidential podium - doesn't 'say' United States of America), of which Trump is the CEO, that none of you voted for (you where polled) because only the owners of a corporation can select their CEO & not the employees

United States of America is the constitutional republic country, and the 'government' of that entity is currently vacant

You guys should really start reading some real books, oh, and turn the fucking telly off

burnit
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OP's source is a sovereign citizen rag.
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Better than Haaretz or the ADL's daily email.
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Considering Israel stole their nation, why would they be such cunts about Americans taking theirs, back?
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Do the people of Palestine, have sovereignty from Jehovah? Or, can you ever convert them? Oh? So you really have no ideological basis for anything you do. So, it's just "force" that is your God. Okay then.
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Because I agree with others above: AMERICANS CAN FREE THEMS#$LVES FROM THE LAW CULT

Need to stop funding Israel first, then also demolish dual citizenships and export those who are welfare rabbis





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