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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27084618 Spain 06/06/2017 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Resume has nothing whatsoever to do with whether a person would be an excellent candidate for a manufacturing position. Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om You are essentially requiring mastery of English to prove you can notice detail on a block of wood or whatever it is you do. If you were as smart as you want your applicants to be, you'd judge them based on their motivation and ability to be trained to DO WHAT YOU NEED THEM TO DO and nothing more. Many times an illiterate person will do a far greater job at manufacturing than someone with a PHD in English. Seriously, I think you might just be trolling with a post this stupid. |
First Born Son
User ID: 73158024 United States 06/06/2017 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And OP you might have this all wrong. Do you really want people with great potential working bench assembly jobs. Think about it... If their resumes are outstanding, they will probably quit as soon as someone offers them $1 more an hour. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74975987 United States 06/06/2017 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem on writting a resume is that you relly cant know what each boss wants to see. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74975338 If OP dont like my resume, it dont mean I did somehow wrong ...and thank you also, AC, for making my point. Again. You think your little factory job is so special, dude blue collar jobs don't require resumes....fucking idiot You are probably unemployed waiting for that $250k a year starting job, because you are worth every penny. All your participation trophies make you feel special. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74989348 United States 06/06/2017 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I own a small manufacturing company. Most of the assembly work is done at a bench, with hand tools. The work is not difficult, but quality and consistency is paramount. Quoting: Azaziah We are entering into our busiest time of year, and steady growth combined with losing one of our senior bench techs has caused me to run some ads (after spreading the word around to friends and associates). I have been involved in the manufacturing business for about 30 years, and have seen thousands of resumes. The last couple weeks I have been reviewing a couple dozen resumes a day. What I am seeing now, is stunning and disappointing. When did people stop learning how to compose a sentence? When did they decide that a resume composed of two sentences is somehow complete? The poor level of spelling, grammar, and frankly effort has me perplexed and perpetually face-palming. So far, I have two resumes that were not immediately round-filed. Just two. If this is the current state of our potential work force, we are in trouble. Worker: Heres ya go Mr. OP, built dis just how you asked, OP: YEAH BUT YOU MADE A GRAMMER ERROR.....you're FIRED |
TriggaDre User ID: 74760167 United States 06/06/2017 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Resume has nothing whatsoever to do with whether a person would be an excellent candidate for a manufacturing position. Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om You are essentially requiring mastery of English to prove you can notice detail on a block of wood or whatever it is you do. If you were as smart as you want your applicants to be, you'd judge them based on their motivation and ability to be trained to DO WHAT YOU NEED THEM TO DO and nothing more. Many times an illiterate person will do a far greater job at manufacturing than someone with a PHD in English. Seriously, I think you might just be trolling with a post this stupid. Mastery of English? Spelling and basic grammar needed to write a resume is not fucking mastery of English, its a basic fucking skill every adult should have. Fuckin' retard! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74975987 United States 06/06/2017 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And OP you might have this all wrong. Quoting: First Born Son Do you really want people with great potential working bench assembly jobs. Think about it... If their resumes are outstanding, they will probably quit as soon as someone offers them $1 more an hour. Then why would they apply in the first place? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74989348 United States 06/06/2017 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem on writting a resume is that you relly cant know what each boss wants to see. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74975338 If OP dont like my resume, it dont mean I did somehow wrong ...and thank you also, AC, for making my point. Again. You think your little factory job is so special, dude blue collar jobs don't require resumes....fucking idiot You are probably unemployed waiting for that $250k a year starting job, because you are worth every penny. All your participation trophies make you feel special. And above us here we have another example of someone who will Never own their own business obviously |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72530568 Canada 06/06/2017 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP - I commend you on your thread. And your ability to provide employment to citizens - which is more than probably 95% of those on GLP. This thread and the responses it has generated shows a dividing line between those who are "pre-internet" as someone said, and those after. If a person doesn't understand the importance of constructing a proper resume - which should be easy enough to do in this modern age - where you have spell-check and can take as much time as you need to ensure your sentence structure and grammar is at least acceptable - then they typically are not worth the bother to hire. Laziness and sloth are the trends of the masses today. Which is why Universal Income is so attractive to the unwashed masses. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74989348 United States 06/06/2017 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP - I commend you on your thread. And your ability to provide employment to citizens - which is more than probably 95% of those on GLP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568 This thread and the responses it has generated shows a dividing line between those who are "pre-internet" as someone said, and those after. If a person doesn't understand the importance of constructing a proper resume - which should be easy enough to do in this modern age - where you have spell-check and can take as much time as you need to ensure your sentence structure and grammar is at least acceptable - then they typically are not worth the bother to hire. Laziness and sloth are the trends of the masses today. Which is why Universal Income is so attractive to the unwashed masses. If a person doesn't understand the unimportance of a resume then you're fucking retarded |
JaxP
User ID: 74941146 United States 06/06/2017 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AND also LOLing at people that think resumes are for old people. What the heck do you think Linkedin is. It's a social media platform to make contacts and distribute your RESUME. Clearly some people on here have never looked for a job outside of fast food, even some fast food places require resumes. Everyone in my family keeps an updated resume just in case a job opportunity presents itself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74948773 United States 06/06/2017 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Resume has nothing whatsoever to do with whether a person would be an excellent candidate for a manufacturing position. Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om You are essentially requiring mastery of English to prove you can notice detail on a block of wood or whatever it is you do. If you were as smart as you want your applicants to be, you'd judge them based on their motivation and ability to be trained to DO WHAT YOU NEED THEM TO DO and nothing more. Many times an illiterate person will do a far greater job at manufacturing than someone with a PHD in English. Seriously, I think you might just be trolling with a post this stupid. How the fuck can you expect someone to learn a manufacturing skill if they can't even learn to read and write? You really didn't think this through, did you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74989348 United States 06/06/2017 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL at all the people declaring that blue collar jobs don't need a resume. Quoting: JaxP AND also LOLing at people that think resumes are for old people. What the heck do you think Linkedin is. It's a social media platform to make contacts and distribute your RESUME. Clearly some people on here have never looked for a job outside of fast food, even some fast food places require resumes. Everyone in my family keeps an updated resume just in case a job opportunity presents itself. Lol at you for being wrong |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72920583 Netherlands 06/06/2017 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Resume has nothing whatsoever to do with whether a person would be an excellent candidate for a manufacturing position. Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om You are essentially requiring mastery of English to prove you can notice detail on a block of wood or whatever it is you do. If you were as smart as you want your applicants to be, you'd judge them based on their motivation and ability to be trained to DO WHAT YOU NEED THEM TO DO and nothing more. Many times an illiterate person will do a far greater job at manufacturing than someone with a PHD in English. Seriously, I think you might just be trolling with a post this stupid. |
seer
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TriggaDre User ID: 74760167 United States 06/06/2017 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And OP you might have this all wrong. Quoting: First Born Son Do you really want people with great potential working bench assembly jobs. Think about it... If their resumes are outstanding, they will probably quit as soon as someone offers them $1 more an hour. Damn you guys!!!?!! He is not talking about their qualifications, He is talking about their ability to write a resume and use proper English in doing so. This does not require a college education, it's a skill most of us should have at the age of 16. |
Resister
User ID: 36421936 United States 06/06/2017 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I own a small manufacturing company. Most of the assembly work is done at a bench, with hand tools. The work is not difficult, but quality and consistency is paramount. Quoting: Azaziah We are entering into our busiest time of year, and steady growth combined with losing one of our senior bench techs has caused me to run some ads (after spreading the word around to friends and associates). I have been involved in the manufacturing business for about 30 years, and have seen thousands of resumes. The last couple weeks I have been reviewing a couple dozen resumes a day. What I am seeing now, is stunning and disappointing. When did people stop learning how to compose a sentence? When did they decide that a resume composed of two sentences is somehow complete? The poor level of spelling, grammar, and frankly effort has me perplexed and perpetually face-palming. So far, I have two resumes that were not immediately round-filed. Just two. If this is the current state of our potential work force, we are in trouble. Writing skills have atrophied in the wake of cell phone texting addictions. It's like a bad drug. The more you do, the worse you get at everything else. Wish I lived close enough to you to apply. I remember your posts about what you do and wish I could afford to buy some your gear. It isn't that it's too expensive. I'm just making less than I have in 20 years. Best of luck weeding through the resumes. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71340271 United States 06/06/2017 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A resume is not term paper. It is an introduction from the prospective employee to the prospective employer. There is no need to write essays. Just explain your experience and abilities. Simple and easy. If the person submitting the applicant has graduated high school and still cannot read, write and spell it shows the training did not take. Why would an employer attempt any more training? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60199293 United States 06/06/2017 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP - I commend you on your thread. And your ability to provide employment to citizens - which is more than probably 95% of those on GLP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568 This thread and the responses it has generated shows a dividing line between those who are "pre-internet" as someone said, and those after. If a person doesn't understand the importance of constructing a proper resume - which should be easy enough to do in this modern age - where you have spell-check and can take as much time as you need to ensure your sentence structure and grammar is at least acceptable - then they typically are not worth the bother to hire. Laziness and sloth are the trends of the masses today. Which is why Universal Income is so attractive to the unwashed masses. Resumés are like cursive. Looks nice but no real purpose. I'd rather meet the person. |
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Prince Unicorn Sun -Sparkle User ID: 65674169 United States 06/06/2017 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used a "reputable" resume service once. My resume came out full of bull points, font changes, and easily noticeable grammatical errors. Furthermore, if resumes look shitty these days, the reason is simple, it's the Internet. If you look at resume examples on the Internet or use a template (even those you pay for) they are shit. I use good ole Strunk and White to correct my grammar. It's the definitive guide on the subject. On another note, I often find people who believe they have some superior grasp of grammar are, more often than not, difficult to work with and not as bright as they like to portray themselves. Do you even Flesch-Kincaid, brah? |
Azaziah
(OP) User ID: 23833670 United States 06/06/2017 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I own a small manufacturing company. Most of the assembly work is done at a bench, with hand tools. The work is not difficult, but quality and consistency is paramount. Quoting: Azaziah We are entering into our busiest time of year, and steady growth combined with losing one of our senior bench techs has caused me to run some ads (after spreading the word around to friends and associates). I have been involved in the manufacturing business for about 30 years, and have seen thousands of resumes. The last couple weeks I have been reviewing a couple dozen resumes a day. What I am seeing now, is stunning and disappointing. When did people stop learning how to compose a sentence? When did they decide that a resume composed of two sentences is somehow complete? The poor level of spelling, grammar, and frankly effort has me perplexed and perpetually face-palming. So far, I have two resumes that were not immediately round-filed. Just two. If this is the current state of our potential work force, we are in trouble. Why not hire someone who can spell and then train THEM? Not enough employers willing to train properly. Most just take from other companies in their industry. Lots of good people out there willing to do the job if you train them. We are willing to train. We have to be. It takes at least a couple months before a new hire is really starting to do well. This is not assembly line work. Each person builds finished machines, from start to finish. Also, the pay can be pretty good for someone who is reliable and does quality work. $20 an hour is not where people start, but it is not unusual. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73678897 United States 06/06/2017 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's YOUR responsibility to train quality and consistency...the quality of your employees should come out of your pocket not theirs...its your business, pay for own bullshit and quit living off others while claiming success Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70775367 You will never have a job. IF your going to sit on your ass all day and speak and write like your texting your buddies, why the fuck would anyone spend any money on you. I would not hesitate to train someone that showed some kind of initiative but you cant train someone who thinks like you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74975987 United States 06/06/2017 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You think your little factory job is so special, dude blue collar jobs don't require resumes....fucking idiot You are probably unemployed waiting for that $250k a year starting job, because you are worth every penny. All your participation trophies make you feel special. And above us here we have another example of someone who will Never own their own business obviously If you owned your own business, you'd go out of business from labor costs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72530568 Canada 06/06/2017 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP - I commend you on your thread. And your ability to provide employment to citizens - which is more than probably 95% of those on GLP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72530568 This thread and the responses it has generated shows a dividing line between those who are "pre-internet" as someone said, and those after. If a person doesn't understand the importance of constructing a proper resume - which should be easy enough to do in this modern age - where you have spell-check and can take as much time as you need to ensure your sentence structure and grammar is at least acceptable - then they typically are not worth the bother to hire. Laziness and sloth are the trends of the masses today. Which is why Universal Income is so attractive to the unwashed masses. If a person doesn't understand the unimportance of a resume then you're fucking retarded ^^^ thank you for your input. Your statement typifies the attitude of the younger generation today. They feel all they need to do is show up and they will be hired at a great wage and given everything. They feel entitled, like the world owes them something for existing. I own a Professional Engineering company. In my life I have worked many jobs, some of which I attained without a resume, but like OP said - a properly scripted resume at least puts forth the appearance that you care. If the advertisement for the job asks for a resume, then it stands to reason the resume you submit should be presentable and without errors, which is easier today than ever before. See - even with the ease of spellcheck and the free resume formats - it is still too much work for the average asshat. OP is right. The future is bleak. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69638564 United States 06/06/2017 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at all the self-entitled pricks who think you don't need a real resume. Listen up tards, the resume is your first task at a new company. If you are too fucking lazy to proof read a resume, then you are too fucking lazy to do the work. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75019878 United States 06/06/2017 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A Resume has nothing whatsoever to do with whether a person would be an excellent candidate for a manufacturing position. Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om You are essentially requiring mastery of English to prove you can notice detail on a block of wood or whatever it is you do. If you were as smart as you want your applicants to be, you'd judge them based on their motivation and ability to be trained to DO WHAT YOU NEED THEM TO DO and nothing more. Many times an illiterate person will do a far greater job at manufacturing than someone with a PHD in English. Seriously, I think you might just be trolling with a post this stupid. Really? If a fucking idiot didn't take time to learn basic grammar what other things has that person let slide? Use your common sense shit-for-brains. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74975987 United States 06/06/2017 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I own a small manufacturing company. Most of the assembly work is done at a bench, with hand tools. The work is not difficult, but quality and consistency is paramount. Quoting: Azaziah We are entering into our busiest time of year, and steady growth combined with losing one of our senior bench techs has caused me to run some ads (after spreading the word around to friends and associates). I have been involved in the manufacturing business for about 30 years, and have seen thousands of resumes. The last couple weeks I have been reviewing a couple dozen resumes a day. What I am seeing now, is stunning and disappointing. When did people stop learning how to compose a sentence? When did they decide that a resume composed of two sentences is somehow complete? The poor level of spelling, grammar, and frankly effort has me perplexed and perpetually face-palming. So far, I have two resumes that were not immediately round-filed. Just two. If this is the current state of our potential work force, we are in trouble. Why not hire someone who can spell and then train THEM? Not enough employers willing to train properly. Most just take from other companies in their industry. Lots of good people out there willing to do the job if you train them. We are willing to train. We have to be. It takes at least a couple months before a new hire is really starting to do well. This is not assembly line work. Each person builds finished machines, from start to finish. Also, the pay can be pretty good for someone who is reliable and does quality work. $20 an hour is not where people start, but it is not unusual. $50 an hour isn't enough for all these snowflakes whining about you. |