Commiefornia Gov. Brown Defies Trump on World Stage ; Signs Deal with China | |
You_people_are_nuts
User ID: 74791937 United States 06/07/2017 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: You_people_are_nuts No. We didn't. In real life, the civil war was caused by a complex confluence events that included an incompatible stance on immigration policy due to vastly differing regional economies, greatly differing interpretations of moralistic codes between differing cults within the Christian tradition, and the simple political ambitions of political parties in relation to whether newly adopted states would be "slave states" in order to gain or retain more clout in the forging congress. To date, I don't believe that there is any evidence that the civil war was started because a single governor visited a foreign country on one occasion. ...which is precisely why no actual historian or really any educated individual tends to think so. Wrong. The civil war was started by the bank of Chicago and the railroad tycoons that wanted the Souths land to build their iron machine. Before Lincoln became president he was a lawyer...for the railroads. You should check into it. The rich wanted the poors land...and it didn't matter what color it belonged to, they were shot in the back, their farms/homes were burned, or accepted the few dollars that the railroad offered. The point was...the railroad won because it had a president on its side...and the power of wealth. There was nothing complex about it...except how to spin it as something it was not: a war to free slaves. -- No...you're still demonstrabably wrong, and having my bachelors in history I can assure you I've looked into it. In real life and according to actual events the North and the railroad companies alike considered the Souths scant 9,000 mikes of track and inferior, obsolete wood-fired infrastructure to be of little strategic relevance given that it only connected to regions whose chief exports were all low value agricultural commodities and there was little interest in people choosing it as a destination to re-settle when the land grab westward was reaching fever pitch. In fact, southern rail lines were considered so useless that many were actually dismantled so that the ties, spikes, and rails could be repurposed and something useful done with them in a transcontinental sense where there was some sort of actual money to be made moving things of value to places that mattered. In real life, that is. [link to www.civilwar.org (secure)] WTF did I just read? Facts. Those thinge's are called coherently presented facts. I do understand it may be disconcerting encountering them for the first time, but once you get used to using them, you will find it to be a better way. I promise. My name is my mantra. |
Nameless the Deplorable
User ID: 8533752 United States 06/07/2017 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey fellas, we have someone with a brain washed turd in here who has a bachelors in History. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63309817 Enjoy your career in mental masturbation. ? My career has nothing to do with history. That was my undergrad. But thank you for clarifying that you feel someone with a clearly superior knowledge base and formal training in an area simply MUST be "brainwashed" because your relative ignorance of the subject material leads you to conclusions not based on evidence or fact, but rather your own predisposed "beliefs" about things. Or should we rather take the armchair conjecture of someone who by their own admission, doesn't seem to even ascribe value to the study of our past in order to better understand our present? I see...so you're just an asshole with a superiority complex. You and I are not going to get along, on account of you being completely delusional AND an asshole. I don't mind the asshole part, but a delusional asshole with a superiority complex is fkg intolerable. -- 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
Nameless the Deplorable
User ID: 8533752 United States 06/07/2017 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL! China signing a climate deal is like a fat kid signing on a document saying he won't eat any more candy. Quoting: Big Daddy D 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
TheGasMan II
User ID: 74858388 United States 06/07/2017 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's say, just for shits and giggles, California sees China breaking their laughable agreement, which they undoubtedly will. What are California's options? They're not a state with representation in the UN, so they have no recourse to the International Court of Justice, where such disputes are settled. Brown has no authority to close China's consulates in California or expel diplomats. The California National Guard is certainly not going to take on the People's Liberation Army. Quoting: Revbo™ How much did this little photo op cost the good taxpayers of the State of California, I wonder. How many trannies' reassignment surgeries could just the fuel for his jet pay for? How many delta smelts could have been saved? Exactly, this was simply a cover for Brown's free vacation to China and commiefornian's bought it hook, line and sinker. "Every new child born brings the message that God is not yet discouraged of man." - Tagore "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle. :TGMtank: |
M*walk
Low Earth Orbit User ID: 9652994 United States 06/07/2017 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Associated Press reports, however, that the agreement does not bind either China or California to specific greenhouse gas emissions reduction targets. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75041899 It's non-binding because he doesn't have the authority to sign "deals". A big nothing burger again. I hope this "nothing burger" gets him tossed in the hoosegow! “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71346573 United States 06/07/2017 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The Associated Press reports, however, that the agreement does not bind either China or California to specific greenhouse gas emissions reduction targets." Quoting: Revbo™ So, in typical GLP style, we can say unequivocally, nothing will happen. At least, not on the China side. Just a photo op and a shot at Trump with the governor of California playing at foreign policy. China laughs at your ass, Brown. They have zero intention of ever honoring any climate agreement. I'm sure you'll bring this worthless piece of paper back and use it as an excuse to make the people of California's lives a little more difficult, though. :jay: Of course California's neocommies do not intend to abide by the environmental standards they impose - by - by swat-team raids on American businesses. That's WHY they want the Chinese slaves to build their products; not American. So-o progressive, California. We know why you hate Trump, Brown: you don't like the minimum wage you yourself so vigorously pushed for. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70661422 United States 06/07/2017 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Brown’s China visit was not the first time that he has attempted to lead on the world stage. In late 2015, he traveled to Paris — in the immediate aftermath of the San Bernardino terror attack — to participate in the global discussions around the climate change accords that eventually emerged — and which President Trump subsequently rejected. Quoting: marooned [link to www.breitbart.com] states rights? WHERE'S A VOTE FROM CALIFORNIA VOTERS? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74556774 United States 06/07/2017 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Individual states CANNOT make foreign deals, CONSTITUTIONALLY, but maybe this could be a GOOD thing? America should have STAYED a CONFEDERATION! Ever since the "Civil" War, we've lived under a federal dictatorship. The STATES created the federal government. Maybe it's time to UNCREATE it. |
marooned
(OP) User ID: 70666044 United States 06/07/2017 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: marooned Down South it is referred to as the War of Northern Aggression. Wait.. Wasn't there an amendment at one time stating that lawyers can not hold the office of President of The Untied States? If it existed, we should have kept that amendment....the only lawyer president, in my opinion worth anything, was president Jefferson. -- I could be wrong. No, you are correct. It was the missing 13 amendment. And its removal is interesting. This is an informative read: [link to www.freedom-school.com] Thanks! |
You_people_are_nuts
User ID: 39516266 United States 06/07/2017 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey fellas, we have someone with a brain washed turd in here who has a bachelors in History. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63309817 Enjoy your career in mental masturbation. ? My career has nothing to do with history. That was my undergrad. But thank you for clarifying that you feel someone with a clearly superior knowledge base and formal training in an area simply MUST be "brainwashed" because your relative ignorance of the subject material leads you to conclusions not based on evidence or fact, but rather your own predisposed "beliefs" about things. Or should we rather take the armchair conjecture of someone who by their own admission, doesn't seem to even ascribe value to the study of our past in order to better understand our present? I see...so you're just an asshole with a superiority complex. You and I are not going to get along, on account of you being completely delusional AND an asshole. I don't mind the asshole part, but a delusional asshole with a superiority complex is fkg intolerable. -- Oh c'mon now. It's not a "superiority complex" if true and accurate. Do you hear me saying I'm better as a person in some way? Or just pointing out that I'm far more knowledgeable and skilled in one specific field of study because I have spent years of life towards that end in a formal and dedicated sense. You wouldn't disregard and belittle a plumbers opinion about plumbing issues, would you? Would you think you "knew better" than an engineer about how to construct a bridge...would you? So why would dismiss out of hand the factual, trained, credentialed, and educated statements of a different field of expertise when it's clear and obvious that it's probably more valid than your own since it's not your wheelhouse? There's no shame in that. It doesn't make you a bad person. I most likely don't have an equivalent knowledge about your chosen areas of expertise. But why is this particular topic different for you? My name is my mantra. |
marooned
(OP) User ID: 70666044 United States 06/07/2017 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey fellas, we have someone with a brain washed turd in here who has a bachelors in History. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63309817 Enjoy your career in mental masturbation. ? My career has nothing to do with history. That was my undergrad. But thank you for clarifying that you feel someone with a clearly superior knowledge base and formal training in an area simply MUST be "brainwashed" because your relative ignorance of the subject material leads you to conclusions not based on evidence or fact, but rather your own predisposed "beliefs" about things. Or should we rather take the armchair conjecture of someone who by their own admission, doesn't seem to even ascribe value to the study of our past in order to better understand our present? I see...so you're just an asshole with a superiority complex. You and I are not going to get along, on account of you being completely delusional AND an asshole. I don't mind the asshole part, but a delusional asshole with a superiority complex is fkg intolerable. -- Oh c'mon now. It's not a "superiority complex" if true and accurate. Do you hear me saying I'm better as a person in some way? Or just pointing out that I'm far more knowledgeable and skilled in one specific field of study because I have spent years of life towards that end in a formal and dedicated sense. You wouldn't disregard and belittle a plumbers opinion about plumbing issues, would you? Would you think you "knew better" than an engineer about how to construct a bridge...would you? So why would dismiss out of hand the factual, trained, credentialed, and educated statements of a different field of expertise when it's clear and obvious that it's probably more valid than your own since it's not your wheelhouse? There's no shame in that. It doesn't make you a bad person. I most likely don't have an equivalent knowledge about your chosen areas of expertise. But why is this particular topic different for you? That's a pretty solid reply. |
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oldmandowntheroad
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68946289 United States 06/07/2017 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow. Gonna have to revisit that. Good stuff, Thanks! ****************************** "things happen b4 15 may u stay china brown cheat and go with putin and china then brown putin china war against japan tiwan poeple with same eye shape" ****************************** |
Just Phil
User ID: 51473726 United States 06/07/2017 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The Associated Press reports, however, that the agreement does not bind either China or California to specific greenhouse gas emissions reduction targets." Quoting: Revbo™ So, in typical GLP style, we can say unequivocally, nothing will happen. At least, not on the China side. Just a photo op and a shot at Trump with the governor of California playing at foreign policy. China laughs at your ass, Brown. They have zero intention of ever honoring any climate agreement. I'm sure you'll bring this worthless piece of paper back and use it as an excuse to make the people of California's lives a little more difficult, though. I guess he is too stupid to realize how small and unintelligent it makes him look. Even the gooks revel in it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68946289 United States 06/07/2017 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "BROWN CHEAT" I remember, "GO WITH CHINA" I do not. Can you find the page it says that on? ****************************** "things happen b4 15 may u stay china brown cheat and go with putin and china then brown putin china war against japan tiwan poeple with same eye shape" ****************************** |
You_people_are_nuts
User ID: 38414405 United States 06/07/2017 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | During the Civil War, Robert L. Owen Sr., who had been one of the engineers surveying for the railroad and who had risen through the ranks, succeeded McDaniel as President. The railroad served as a key supply, food and troop movement route for the Confederate States Army, particularly from the capital of Richmond to the interior at Chattanooga, Tennessee. The V&T moved also key raw materials: copper from mines near Cleveland, Tennessee, lead from mines near Bristol, salt from Saltville, Virginia and saltpeter from caves throughout the region. Union forces finally captured much of the railroad and destroyed tracks and rolling stock in late 1864, although service was periodically interrupted by a series of cavalry raids earlier in the war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63309817 Correct. Case in point. Even during the war there was little to interest in preserving the infrastructure for future use as armies do with things of strategic importance (think oil wells in Iraq). ...and after much (not ALL...but a lot) was salvaged for use to the west. Very much the reason no professional historian I'm aware of considers the civil war to be about rail lines. lol My name is my mantra. |
You_people_are_nuts
User ID: 38414405 United States 06/07/2017 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: You_people_are_nuts ? My career has nothing to do with history. That was my undergrad. But thank you for clarifying that you feel someone with a clearly superior knowledge base and formal training in an area simply MUST be "brainwashed" because your relative ignorance of the subject material leads you to conclusions not based on evidence or fact, but rather your own predisposed "beliefs" about things. Or should we rather take the armchair conjecture of someone who by their own admission, doesn't seem to even ascribe value to the study of our past in order to better understand our present? I see...so you're just an asshole with a superiority complex. You and I are not going to get along, on account of you being completely delusional AND an asshole. I don't mind the asshole part, but a delusional asshole with a superiority complex is fkg intolerable. -- Oh c'mon now. It's not a "superiority complex" if true and accurate. Do you hear me saying I'm better as a person in some way? Or just pointing out that I'm far more knowledgeable and skilled in one specific field of study because I have spent years of life towards that end in a formal and dedicated sense. You wouldn't disregard and belittle a plumbers opinion about plumbing issues, would you? Would you think you "knew better" than an engineer about how to construct a bridge...would you? So why would dismiss out of hand the factual, trained, credentialed, and educated statements of a different field of expertise when it's clear and obvious that it's probably more valid than your own since it's not your wheelhouse? There's no shame in that. It doesn't make you a bad person. I most likely don't have an equivalent knowledge about your chosen areas of expertise. But why is this particular topic different for you? That's a pretty solid reply. Well thank you :) I do what I can. My name is my mantra. |
You_people_are_nuts
User ID: 38414405 United States 06/07/2017 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Individual states CANNOT make foreign deals, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74556774 CONSTITUTIONALLY, but maybe this could be a GOOD thing? America should have STAYED a CONFEDERATION! Ever since the "Civil" War, we've lived under a federal dictatorship. The STATES created the federal government. Maybe it's time to UNCREATE it. *sigh* I swear my work here is never done. #1. In real life the Constitution only prohibits states from enacting treaties with foreign powers. Although in fairness, it is customary that things like arms deals and large scale trade agreements also need a 2/3 majority at the Fed level, too. #2. This neither, treaty, arms deal, nor trade agreement. #3. States have always had the right to set their own environmental, laws, policies, rules, ordinances, etc so long as it was not LESS stringent than the federal stipulations which would supersede it in any court of law with a discussion about 30 seconds long. #4. If you read more than just the headline...the very same article you are so outraged about takes great care to note that this wasn't binding in any way or can even be considered an agreement. #5. By rule of law, even a county, municipality, private corporation, or single individual could have done the same with Chinese government without issue. #6. Take away the irrational fear of the name "Jerry Brown" and you're left with a governor who had a conversation that resulted in at MOST a memorandum of understanding that his state and the Chinese counterpart should try and cooperate on environmental stuff but requiring or obligating neither party to do so. #7. Even if it did...it still wouldn't supersede Federal agreements in place that might be more stringent. So...what are you all bent out of shape about? That two guys from different countries sat in a room and said they should try and help one another if possible? My name is my mantra. |
Nameless the Deplorable
User ID: 8533752 United States 06/07/2017 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey fellas, we have someone with a brain washed turd in here who has a bachelors in History. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63309817 Enjoy your career in mental masturbation. ? My career has nothing to do with history. That was my undergrad. But thank you for clarifying that you feel someone with a clearly superior knowledge base and formal training in an area simply MUST be "brainwashed" because your relative ignorance of the subject material leads you to conclusions not based on evidence or fact, but rather your own predisposed "beliefs" about things. Or should we rather take the armchair conjecture of someone who by their own admission, doesn't seem to even ascribe value to the study of our past in order to better understand our present? I see...so you're just an asshole with a superiority complex. You and I are not going to get along, on account of you being completely delusional AND an asshole. I don't mind the asshole part, but a delusional asshole with a superiority complex is fkg intolerable. -- Oh c'mon now. It's not a "superiority complex" if true and accurate. Do you hear me saying I'm better as a person in some way? Or just pointing out that I'm far more knowledgeable and skilled in one specific field of study because I have spent years of life towards that end in a formal and dedicated sense. You wouldn't disregard and belittle a plumbers opinion about plumbing issues, would you? Would you think you "knew better" than an engineer about how to construct a bridge...would you? So why would dismiss out of hand the factual, trained, credentialed, and educated statements of a different field of expertise when it's clear and obvious that it's probably more valid than your own since it's not your wheelhouse? There's no shame in that. It doesn't make you a bad person. I most likely don't have an equivalent knowledge about your chosen areas of expertise. But why is this particular topic different for you? But you see...your knowledge of actual history in this case is inaccurate. You are simply regurgitating what someone else taught you and what they taught you is incorrect. I'll also add that you were the one that did type that you had a clearly superior knowledge base...no one else typed that. Just you. So please, take your wounded puppy dog act somewhere else. There is no sympathy for that play here. It was after all, you that assumed you were the most educated person on this forum, while simultaneously insulting others with your assertions. This is an act of desperation for attention and reeks of youthful ignorance. Perhaps, in between your ego stroking, you'd like to offer an actual opinion on the ORIGINAL topic of this thread, before you derailed it into a "I'm so smart because I typed it" mess. -- 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
You_people_are_nuts
User ID: 38414405 United States 06/07/2017 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: You_people_are_nuts ? My career has nothing to do with history. That was my undergrad. But thank you for clarifying that you feel someone with a clearly superior knowledge base and formal training in an area simply MUST be "brainwashed" because your relative ignorance of the subject material leads you to conclusions not based on evidence or fact, but rather your own predisposed "beliefs" about things. Or should we rather take the armchair conjecture of someone who by their own admission, doesn't seem to even ascribe value to the study of our past in order to better understand our present? I see...so you're just an asshole with a superiority complex. You and I are not going to get along, on account of you being completely delusional AND an asshole. I don't mind the asshole part, but a delusional asshole with a superiority complex is fkg intolerable. -- Oh c'mon now. It's not a "superiority complex" if true and accurate. Do you hear me saying I'm better as a person in some way? Or just pointing out that I'm far more knowledgeable and skilled in one specific field of study because I have spent years of life towards that end in a formal and dedicated sense. You wouldn't disregard and belittle a plumbers opinion about plumbing issues, would you? Would you think you "knew better" than an engineer about how to construct a bridge...would you? So why would dismiss out of hand the factual, trained, credentialed, and educated statements of a different field of expertise when it's clear and obvious that it's probably more valid than your own since it's not your wheelhouse? There's no shame in that. It doesn't make you a bad person. I most likely don't have an equivalent knowledge about your chosen areas of expertise. But why is this particular topic different for you? But you see...your knowledge of actual history in this case is inaccurate. You are simply regurgitating what someone else taught you and what they taught you is incorrect. I'll also add that you were the one that did type that you had a clearly superior knowledge base...no one else typed that. Just you. So please, take your wounded puppy dog act somewhere else. There is no sympathy for that play here. It was after all, you that assumed you were the most educated person on this forum, while simultaneously insulting others with your assertions. This is an act of desperation for attention and reeks of youthful ignorance. Perhaps, in between your ego stroking, you'd like to offer an actual opinion on the ORIGINAL topic of this thread, before you derailed it into a "I'm so smart because I typed it" mess. -- You're misinformed on so many levels, it's astonishing. -It's not possible to get a get a history degree by "regutlrgitating" knowledge. Your statement makes it painfully obvious that you imagine university level coursework is the same as high school level, thus further substantiating my point that this is plainly not your wheelhouse. Aside from the couple of watered down gen-ed history classes just about everybody has to take, you get an "F" on anything you do that "reflgurgitates" someone else's' analysis. You have to conduct your own research and rely heavily on primary documents. -I'm assuming nothing. Simply reading through the posts will indicate that one of the posters is not like the others. That being said, I cannot say by any stretch that I'm "the most educated" here. There could very well be someone with a PhD in mathematics who happens to misunderstand the past greatly, as it is not their expertise. However, in terms of history at least, I feel like I'm on really, really solid ground here. -check out my post a little earlier if you'd like something more on-topic where I correctly pointed out that the very article that has so many people screaming "civil war!!" cites that the end result was non-binding. This makes it an "agreement" with a lower case "a"...like agreeing upon where to go to dinner tonight. Not an "Agreement" like one would have in a contractual sense. Hence, there was nothing at all in least bit controversial that occurred...much less unconstitutional as some on here are asserting. All this fuss over two guys from different countries who think it'd be cool if they could help one another out so there's less toxic shit in their backyards. Civil war!! The Constitution!! Commies!! lol Perhaps my username is pretty accurate, huh? My name is my mantra. |
AquaBrat
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Martini & Cigar
User ID: 73079170 United States 06/07/2017 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When I was a kid I remember my dad coming home making a cocktail turning on news and telling Jerry Brown off calling him fukin fuk idiot......then switching the news to star trek. and now I do the same. Fuking fuk idiot! A word of caution to neophyte Martini drinkers: When taken to excess, this perfectly civilized drink can lead directly to uncivilized behavior. |