Major fire in London tower block - ongoing updates -

Maybe something to it, but it can't be proven as false it's the average number given by various firefighters and other services and it would sound about right, 150 dead is plausible and probable.

It's however understandable that there is a halt on releasing the number of dead until they have been accounted for, and verified.

If this building falls it's was one of the alfabet agencies who did this

Why no release on the number who made it out alive? They gave a number on those who were treated in hospital, but what about a head count on the numbers who were all sleeping on the floors at the community centre/s? Surely that's not too hard to do.

I honestly think they don't have a clue, and to be honest there is nothing stopping an independent head count either.

And it would represent an accurate number on how many died because there's no way of knowing g how many were actually in the flats at the time, unless they tap into things like what flat was using more power at the time, things like CCTV if active and so forth.

... and you have not noticed that it was empty????

no....

Even a rough count of known survivors, that isn't fully accurate, would be a start. They could have made a phone number public thru the media for unaccounted survivors to phone up and notify they're safe( the ones who aren't sleeping at the community centres).

Makes me think the authorities have a fairly good idea on the number of survivors and it isn't a pretty number so they're keeping it hushed up.

I think they do have an idea and the only reason they aren't stating it is because of the insurance reasons for the owner of the bldg. They will have to pay big to those families.

i still think that this was a ritual...

As I said there is nothing stopping an independent head account of those in shelters and so forth

A theory is a theory, at least you're not ramming down others throats and calling it gospel.

The comments underneath are interesting:

'No shock. That's what I see here from the people being interviewed. No shock. Only very detailed and coherent descriptions of what happened.'

'Exactly. It looks very fake. The only thing real is the building burning. How can people believe an appliance burned an entire building like that in record time? Plus the crisis actors and that video of fake screams of the kid. It's manufactured. I still haven't seen one body or a real victim yet. People should have a lot more cameras from their phones too right? If people were jumping you would think people would be filming it in this day and age.'

'i think the agenda is to revamp building codes and retrofit buildings worldwide at massive, massive costs and that will reap a windfall of billions upon billions of dollars to the criminals associated with the building industry and construction companies.

In fact the very next day in Australia the Prime Minister said that all buildings in the country needed to be audited for safety and must be re-fitted if not up to code. However there are ALREADY very strict building codes in place, VERY strict . And the Prime Minister announcing this the very next day, only one day after the fire and before any investigation into the cause of the fire had been even spoken of.

Whatever the agenda is you can guarentee it will be related to money, follow the money. I'm sure gentrification of London is also part of the agenda too. One thing seems obvious and that is that these crisis actors are lying their asses off .... so I can safely assume nobody was killed or injured in this deliberately lit fire ..... more trauma porn.'

live stream not being shown on MSM at all

protestors calling out the evil ideology of neoliberalism

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^ ditto

On another thread a lady heard from a radio show, most the beds remained empty. Staff believe HUNDREDS have died. Very few survivors.

London fire: 'Outrageous' lack of help for Grenfell tower victims


There are many things fuelling the anger felt here.
The catastrophic loss of life is the primary factor, of course. But there is also the fact that people are finding it very difficult to get any information.

There does not appear to be any central official point here on the ground where people can go to get answers and support. No marquee with "help centre" written on the side.

No officials with lanyards guiding confused and desperate people to counsellors.

There has been a huge voluntary response, with local churches and others helping people.

Donations have flooded in - too many now - such is the public response.

And unseen officials are caring for those in hospital and working to find empty accommodation in which to house those left homeless.

And yet on the ground people speak of a total lack of coordination from the government and Kensington and Chelsea council.

Local residents' association representatives say some families are still sleeping on floors in centres around the Grenfell Tower four days after the fire.

'Absolute chaos'

They talk of absolute chaos. And they say what they regard as the inability of the local council to respond to their needs and concerns is "symptomatic of why we had this disaster".






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Stuart*

Protests led by Corbyn supporters. And yet:

On June 7, 2005, @jeremycorbyn voted to exempt tower blocks built before 2007 from requiring sprinklers.

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Show your evidence he did that then, otherwise you're just smearing with unsubstantiated rumour like you usually do.

Because he's a backwards retard that will only jump on something to push forth his own agenda.

There is no evidence he voted to do that.

Maybe not but he is still a backwards retard and not to be trusted just like any other politician

Yeah but for what? What was the meaning of this day?

Bit wicker man like

i should think the smell of decay will kick in soon , sad to say its a hot day in the uk today

Not as much as you'd think it's a sickening notion and I hate to say it but the bodies would be sealed and smoked.

Any some would be cremated

Thread: People keep telling me should be weeping over Grenfell Towers but I remember Shannon Matthews.