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Protecting the Constitution from Career Politicians

 
Little Red Hen

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06/21/2017 08:18 AM
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I'm not so sure I trust the state governments either, especially in places like California, Illinois and here in New York, where extremely Liberal and Globalist filth in the cities dictate everything for us in the country and small towns. When you have people like Andrew Cuomo and Chuck Schumer in your state government, you have the enemy to freedom inside the gates, controlling the gate.
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06/21/2017 08:26 AM
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Just my 2 cents here,
1. Term limits for all, Rep's, senate and appointees.
2. T.O.N., Bring back the Titles of Nobility clause
3. Corporations are not people, but can be held accountable.
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06/21/2017 09:56 AM
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term limits.

trump promised to work on them.

i'll give him some time though.

but he better not forget.

a cure to the maxine waters and pelosi's of the world.

solve a lot of problems.
 Quoting: Grove Street


He has the right idea. I just don't believe that term limits can ever be passed by the men who would be limited by it.

I'm 48 years old, and for as long as I remember, Congressional candidates have been promising to balance the budget and pass term limits.
 Quoting: BadProgBad


How about passing a law that says if they don't balance the budget, they won't get paid until they do?
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Or no raises unless their constituents agree, or better yet their pay is the average of their constituents.
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06/21/2017 11:08 AM
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This has been brought up several times on GLP.

The main issue seems to be can a ConCon be limited to a set number of issues?

People say yes but what's to prevent it from being hijacked?

And then it's good bye to the BOR? Particularly the second, fourth, fifth and 1st.

Along with other things.

It will look like the UN charter after it's over.
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There is no way that you could get more than 3 or 4 states to ever even consider any changes to the Bill of Rights. That's not even a realistic fear given the ratification process.

Some potential amendments being discussed include:
* term limits for Congress
* states review for Supreme Court decisions
* term limits for SCOTUS
* balanced Federal budget
 Quoting: BadProgBad


Congress is a great problem.they(most) have superseded the will of the people and allowed/have been the reason for our government takedown. Jason Chaffetz said it.We need to get it back it is not too late and never will be.

Thank you again for the government lesson it has been way too many years since school but I crave this more than ever
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06/21/2017 11:09 AM
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Just my 2 cents here,
1. Term limits for all, Rep's, senate and appointees.
2. T.O.N., Bring back the Titles of Nobility clause
3. Corporations are not people, but can be held accountable.
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06/21/2017 02:06 PM
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term limits.

trump promised to work on them.

i'll give him some time though.

but he better not forget.

a cure to the maxine waters and pelosi's of the world.

solve a lot of problems.
 Quoting: Grove Street


He has the right idea. I just don't believe that term limits can ever be passed by the men who would be limited by it.

I'm 48 years old, and for as long as I remember, Congressional candidates have been promising to balance the budget and pass term limits.
 Quoting: BadProgBad


How about passing a law that says if they don't balance the budget, they won't get paid until they do?
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All for it. Maybe you can get your representative to sponsor the bill.

chuckle
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06/21/2017 02:09 PM
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It needs to be a crime punishable by death for any official to violate the constitution.
BadProgBad  (OP)

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06/21/2017 02:13 PM
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I'm not so sure I trust the state governments either, especially in places like California, Illinois and here in New York, where extremely Liberal and Globalist filth in the cities dictate everything for us in the country and small towns. When you have people like Andrew Cuomo and Chuck Schumer in your state government, you have the enemy to freedom inside the gates, controlling the gate.
 Quoting: Little Red Hen


One should never trust any politician completely, you are correct. At least the closer the person is to the local community, the more control each individual has.

Also, consider that special interests are bribing men in Washington DC, as a matter of course. When this issue is decided at the State level, the DC politicians cannot influence them. Imagine how much more difficult it would be to influence the vote if you were trying to influence 50 separate state bodies. That's DC x 50. Much more daunting and less effective.

Don't trust the men, but I have much more faith in the possibilities.
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06/21/2017 02:15 PM
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Just my 2 cents here,
1. Term limits for all, Rep's, senate and appointees.
2. T.O.N., Bring back the Titles of Nobility clause
3. Corporations are not people, but can be held accountable.
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I wasn't aware it was not still there. Hmmm.
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BadProgBad  (OP)

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06/21/2017 02:19 PM
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Congress is a great problem.they(most) have superseded the will of the people and allowed/have been the reason for our government takedown. Jason Chaffetz said it.We need to get it back it is not too late and never will be.

Thank you again for the government lesson it has been way too many years since school but I crave this more than ever
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Jason has apparently more bark than bite. It appears he is getting out of DC as fast as he can. I wonder what they said to him.

I do believe that it is not too late, but the Convention of States may be one of our last opportunities to get it back.
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06/21/2017 02:21 PM
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It needs to be a crime punishable by death for any official to violate the constitution.
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bump
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06/21/2017 02:25 PM
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It needs to be a crime punishable by death for any official to violate the constitution.
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bump
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Violation of one's oath doesn't seem to invite any censure any more, does it? Honor and integrity are no longer esteemed in our schools. Quite the opposite.
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06/21/2017 08:23 PM
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There is a lot of disinformation circulating concerning the Article 5 Convention of States. First, it is wrong to call it a Constitutional Convention. It is not convened to write a Constitution. It is convened for the purpose of proposing Constitutional amendments, and is called a Convention of States.

A Convention of States, after debate among delegates nominated by the various States, would then forward any proposed amendments to the 50 States for consideration, in the same exact way that any Constitutional amendment proposals coming out of Congress would be considered for ratification. If our Constitution has survived without being totally rewritten by Congress, then there is no reason to believe that there is any danger of the same thing happening if the proposals come out of the States. They are, after all, the exact same thing--proposals which will be subjected to the same exact ratification process as outlined in the Constitution.
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