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Jeff_43
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User ID: 74189055 United States 06/29/2017 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th I have been in the fireworks business for 25+ years, I do shows, managed a wholesale company, and run my own small store. I have some tips to keep you from being ripped off. I posted something similar to this last year.
The average markup on fireworks is over 500% for bigger items. Smaller items such as smoke balls, novelties and smaller rockets 2000% Bigger items have much less markup than smaller ones.
Fireworks are one of the few things that are cheaper at smaller independently owned stores. Stay away from Phantom, TNT, Fireworks Supermarket, and any larger chain stores. They have to pay their bills for staying open all year with the sales mostly from the 4th and some on New Years.
Stick with the seasonal stores, they do not have crazy bills and are mostly people looking to make some extra cash or raise funds for something like a church.
Stores on main highways around tourist towns like Myrtle Beach, or Gatlinburg nothing will be under 500% markup.
Best deals are the night of the 4th or the day after. Most places do not have proper storage and would rather sell at cost than have to return it to a wholesaler who will charge 15-20% restock fee and only take unopened cases.
Cash talks at those stores where a few cash transactions that do not get added to the nights sales helps on the taxes as well as lot fees at tents where the fireworks people pay the land owner a portion of their sales as rent.
Most big name brand fireworks are identical to some smaller less known brand. I have pulled labels off items only to find the original item label underneath. Black Cat and TNT brands are 2 that are the most well known and worst preforming items. I never buy, sell or shoot any Black Cat or TNT items. World class, Winda and Megabanger are some of the best well known brands, but there are tons of smaller brands that are just as good or better.
Your best bang for the buck are the 500gram heavyweight boxes with between 9 and 25 shots. The fewer the shots the bigger they are because there are limits on the amount of powder in one. NEVER buy one that is a 9 shot "3 inch" box because it is a ripoff. The tube is 3 inches but the actual shell is only 2 inches with a sleeve around it. 2 inch diameter shells are the largest allowed for sale in the U.S.
Reloadable kits are nice but you will get tired of shooting them if you have lots. If you buy them the 60 gram canister shells are the best shot. Stick with something like Excalibur shells which are top dog for reloadable. Never buy reloadable shells with more than 2 breaks. No matter how many breaks a shell has the max amount of powder that can be in them is 60 grams. So you get a very nice single or double break or crappy weak 3 to 5 breaks. In addition on the 5 break shells the 5th break will likely be very low and could start a fire or hurt someone.
Rockets are dangerous and have a huge markup.
Roman candles are not as good as they once were. and they have a huge markup. a 6 pack of 10 ball roman candles may sell for between $5 and $10 but they cost less than $0.75 wholesale.
Firecrackers are something that is not as good as they were 20 years ago. If you want firecrackers, stick with the normal firecrackers, do not fall for the big M-80 looking red tube crackers. They are nothing but a single firecracker packed in a fancy tube and better fuse and marked up 1000% or more.
Assortments are rip offs, they may have a few good items but they are loaded with things that do not sell very well or are not very good. If you add the prices up on the things in the assortments, you will find that you are paying more than if you bought each thing off the shelf.
The large 150 to 200 shot Zipper cakes are pretty but not worth the cost, retail on them will never be under $50 with most being well over $100 at the cheapest stores. They are normally fast shots, so you are looking at $50-$150 go in less than 30 seconds.
Buy one get one free sales are for suckers you are not getting anything free, they marked those items up to double or more of what they would sell for without the sale.
The spend $$$ and get $$$ free is a ripoff also. Most the times the free stuff is items that do not sell very good or and bad performers when shot. Plus I guarantee you paid for those "free".
If you spend a lot of cash at a small mom and pop store and they quietly tell you that they have some good stuff in back, chances are they do but it will cost you. Never buy something that looks home made. You will lose a finger or hand. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71899322 United States 06/29/2017 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th dont blow your dick off |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70975244 United States 06/29/2017 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th Why do some states ban them?
And only sell pussy ass sparklers |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71899322 United States 06/29/2017 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th honestly though these salesmen only really sell these fireworks for one day of the season, so the markup is understandable, right? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71899322 United States 06/29/2017 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th Why do some states ban them?
And only sell pussy ass sparklers
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70975244 they used all the water to flush their toilets so their vegetation is highly susceptible to lighting on fire. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75159042 Canada 06/29/2017 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th thank you! 5 stars |
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Jeff_43
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User ID: 74189055 United States 06/29/2017 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th honestly though these salesmen only really sell these fireworks for one day of the season, so the markup is understandable, right?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71899322 making a profit is one thing but ripping people off is another. |
Jeff_43
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User ID: 74189055 United States 06/29/2017 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th Why do some states ban them?
And only sell pussy ass sparklers
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70975244 Nanny state, they want to control your fun. More kids are hurt playing with plastic buckets than are hurt with fireworks every year. They are only dangerous if misused. |
LastOneSitting
User ID: 74617602 United States 06/29/2017 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th Why do some states ban them?
And only sell pussy ass sparklers
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70975244 Christie just signed into law allowing sparklers and other fireworks that don't go "BANG" or fly into the sky here in New Jersey. I'm so happy I could just shit. Just think...sparklers and toot-horns to celebrate the 4th. |
MissCleo
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Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th my pets hate 4th of July. |
Flyover County
User ID: 33986322 United States 06/29/2017 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th
Thunderbomb were the shit when I was a kid in the 70s and early 80s. We blew up all kinds of shit. Bottle rockets were awesome then too. My little brother burned our neighbors wheat field down one year If something can corrupt you then you're already corrupt. Bob Marley |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75159559 United Arab Emirates 06/29/2017 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th A radio station is playing a promo:
"Listen for the sound of little billy blowing his fingers off (BANG - AAAHHHHHH) and call in to win" :D |
Copperhead
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73647323 United States 06/29/2017 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th OP, what happened to M-80's? And M-80 ROMAN CANDLES? |
Trashy
User ID: 71740445 United States 06/29/2017 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th thank you! 5 stars
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75159042 There's a 95% chance you are a candy ass uniparty tory. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3956460 United States 06/29/2017 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th dont get caught. make big BOOMS fire |
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Copperhead
User ID: 75117063 United States 06/29/2017 04:28 PM
Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th Stay away from the motherfuckin bootleg fireworks. [ link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75066638 United Kingdom 06/29/2017 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41557729 United States 06/29/2017 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th Why not go to the bank and take out $200 in $20 bills put them in the middle of the street and set them on fire. It may not be as fun as fireworks but the outcome is the same. |
Flyover County
User ID: 33986322 United States 06/29/2017 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th Why not go to the bank and take out $200 in $20 bills put them in the middle of the street and set them on fire. It may not be as fun as fireworks but the outcome is the same.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41557729 Just but some black powder and several feet of safety fuse If something can corrupt you then you're already corrupt. Bob Marley |
The Old Timer
User ID: 50874131 United States 06/29/2017 04:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th
Why do some states ban them?
And only sell pussy ass sparklers
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70975244 Nanny state, they want to control your fun. More kids are hurt playing with plastic buckets than are hurt with fireworks every year. They are only dangerous if misused. Quoting: Jeff_43 TPTB don't want you having real fireworks....you might use them against them in the form I IEDs Lets go Brandon!!
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73647323 United States 06/29/2017 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th OP, what happened to M-80's? And M-80 ROMAN CANDLES?
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1712129 United States 06/29/2017 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th I like the standard firecrackers from Mexico.
The ones wrapped in green twine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73647323 United States 06/29/2017 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th OP, what happened to M-80's? And M-80 ROMAN CANDLES?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73647323 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73647323 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74841941 United States 06/29/2017 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th Why do some states ban them?
And only sell pussy ass sparklers
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70975244 Can't even get those in Massachusetts. And honestly, those are the only ones that should be illegal. In all my years of fireworks escapades, the worst injuries I ever got were from those stupid fucking glowing red hot sticks of death. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74915107 United States 06/29/2017 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th work at plant surrounded by redncks an hispanics on holidays they all shot off these massive fireworks clouds of smoke over plant had ta put onmask to shut down. |
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Jeff_43
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User ID: 74189055 United States 06/29/2017 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th Why do some states ban them?
And only sell pussy ass sparklers
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70975244 Can't even get those in Massachusetts. And honestly, those are the only ones that should be illegal. In all my years of fireworks escapades, the worst injuries I ever got were from those stupid fucking glowing red hot sticks of death. Quoting: R. Wordsworth I still have a small scar from 40 years ago thanks to the glowing red hot stick of death... They now make them with bamboo sticks. Much safer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73647323 United States 06/29/2017 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th OP, what happened to M-80's? And M-80 ROMAN CANDLES?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73647323 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73647323 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73647323 |
Jeff_43
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User ID: 74189055 United States 06/29/2017 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th OP, what happened to M-80's? And M-80 ROMAN CANDLES?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73647323 Are you referring to the "flashing Thunder" roman candles made by Temple of heaven? They were on the open market for a couple years but were banned. They are still around but are now classified as class B and it takes a BATF permit to buy them legally, but they are still around in the backrooms of some shops. Back in the 80s we used to shoot them at streetlights, the flash that they made when they popped would put out the light so the other fireworks could be seen better. If you aimed too good and hit the light, it would stay out till the broken bulb was replaced. |
Flyover County
User ID: 33986322 United States 06/29/2017 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th A bucket of water. A beer can with the top cut off. Put a hole in the bottom of the beer can that holds a firecracker. Put the can in the bucket of water. Light the firecracker. Run. We used to get 30 ft of air that way If something can corrupt you then you're already corrupt. Bob Marley |
Jeff_43
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User ID: 74189055 United States 06/29/2017 05:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: tips for anyone buying fireworks for the 4th thanks for the pin. |
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