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Leaving the ghetto after 5 years - My experience, and advice ...

 
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Leaving the ghetto after 5 years - My experience, and advice ...
Finally have closed on land out in the country after living in the ghetto for 5 years, an old mill town that was left to disintegrate after the mills closed. In the late 90s there was a big push for revitalization and a lot of artists and musicians moved into the neighborhood, buying under a special tax rate. Not a bad deal and just a couple miles from downtown where they were opening art galleries and music venues.

The houses are solid, built in the 1930s and earlier, and each has about an eighth of an acre as a yard, deep lots for growing Victory gardens. We have been renting from a friend, a musician who bought in during that great tax break. The first couple years weren’t bad here, and as a writer I enjoyed sitting on the front-screened porch and watching the locals.

Our block has kinda been the unofficial “white” block; the neighbor across the street inherited his house from his mom, and owns several on the block. The neighbors next to him are just good country people who own a couple houses next to each other, and plant in their yard and are often offering excess veggies. The neighbor next door was a hunter, and although he’d clean kill in his front yard, he cleaned up well and would often offer fresh venison, wild hog, turkey, or catfish to us. I also do a lot of things for the neighbors, including rides to the doctor, or work, etc, not to mention feeding a lot of people during the ice storm that left us without power for a week (my gas stove still worked, while most had been shifted to full electric).

Our hunting neighbor, though, after fixing up a house that was probably about to be condemned, moved out and rented to a section 8 family. It was last September and there was a tropical storm moving through the night she moved in. I had the door to the screened-porch open to catch the cool air (our houses are only about 12 feet, if that, from each other), and I heard someone yelling. I stepped on the porch to listen and the woman was having a big rant about how she hated white folk.

It was rather hard to understand her, but I got the gist of it – white folks suck, are horrible, are stupid, of the devil, and should die. She couldn’t see me as I had let the evergreen bushes grow very thick around the porch, but I could certainly hear her. And what she didn’t discover until the next morning was that all of her neighbors were white. Her vehicle had broken down and she sent her daughter (about 8-yr-old) knocking on doors and asking for jumper cables. We helped her that morning, despite what I had heard.

When I saw the owner, I relayed what had been said, but he told me she seemed like a nice woman and besides, she wouldn’t be there long. And if I had a problem let him know – he gave me his number.

A couple weeks later I got a big pup.

In the months since then, transients are in and out of her house, eating from the trash, and pissing in the back yard. I live on a corner, have a privacy fence on the street, but a chain link between us. Over the months she and I have had words, but I think I out-crazied her on New Years Eve when they were throwing fireworks in my yard. They were literally sitting on the porch, lighting shit, and throwing it in my yard.

Anyone with pets know those events are stressful to animals, and we had all the animals inside (except the chickens, lol), and the sheer audacity of them doing that had me out front yelling at them. They have a large back yard, why throw them off in my front yard? Couple big fat women tried to get up in my face, but little, old, crazy me (50ish, 5-feet-tall) evidently had them moving down the street. Yes, I checked my crazy card, and it’s about worn down after five years of living here.

Then I hear our new neighbor as she’s sitting on the porch on the phone and telling whomever that if my big pup barked at her or her friends again she was going to kill it, shoot him. I bowed up, we exchanged heated words as I clarified my dog was doing his freaking job of barking when her “friends” were pissing in the back yard, or peeking over the fence to see what they could steal. She ended with, “Alright, then,” and stepped back in the house, slamming the door.

Her landlord doesn’t answer the phone, and hasn’t since he gave me, and the neighbors, his number.

Then the family across the other street moved out (I live on a corner), and I knew it was going section 8. Across that street is a huge house, with a garage with apartments, and a smaller house behind it. Now there are six or more girls with expensive long braids and too many youngens to count living and screaming over there. My neighbors around here immediately said, “Hope it’s not a brothel.” BTW, somehow they can afford the most expensive cars while we’re driving older, paid off vehicles, and there is a lot of traffic over there, and broken beer bottles outside my privacy fence.

In garage apartment some new folks moved in over the weekend, and what do you do when you move into a new apartment? Evidently poke your big head into the privacy fence across the way. Luckily, my husband saw him and called him out with a mighty “What the fuck are you doing?” The dude ran.

In my time living here, I have tended to at least three accidents – kids on motorbikes running the stop sign and getting hit. I have seen fistfights in the street. Screaming fights in yards that last for hours. Police chases, one of which ended in a fatal accident across the way, harassment from homeless people (I will never help another homeless person who knows where I live), prostitutes being picked up and dropped off outside my living room window, two young gay guys who I assume where about to have sex in the bushes outside my window (checked the crazy card a couple times that day, because what the ever-living-fuck??). Gunshots on a regular basis, and I’ve found gun casings in the yard, sirens all day and night, thumping stereos sitting at the corner after midnight. Neighbors knocking on the door wanting food (but not peanut butter, because they had that in prison and it makes them itchy), cigarettes, or money – like we’re rich (idiots, we live here too), things thrown in the back yard - from utensils, bottles and cans, food items, back packs (roaming bully kid, I guess), and syringes. We have a feral cat problem (some folks I know have fixed over 30 cats, and released them back to the streets), dog packs, wild roaming roosters, and even a pig.

The local (and very corrupt) government is crazy as hell, taxing everything imaginable as the service gets worse and worse, and more people move away. They not only tax rain water (but took forever to fix the sink hole that opened on a major thoroughfare), they are also taxing folks, responsible pet owners, when they get animals spayed or neutered blink

My advice to those moving into such a neighborhood is be nice, but distant. Don’t befriend anyone, and use that crazy card. I’m sure my new Section 8 neighbors don’t want to mess with the crazy, red-neck (I garden, and have chickens, which is perfectly legal here), woman next door, and I am fine with that. And let them know you are armed.

The next few months will be the hardest as the land is cleared and the construction of the new house, but I see, finally, the quiet and golden light at the end of the tunnel. Thank God!

I’m grateful for the experience as I will have plenty to write about, but I’m thrilled to be leaving.
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I will also admit living in the ghetto helped us pay off our bills and save money toward our dream.
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My go to is to out crazy the crazies.

Shot gun blasts in the back yard at random times for no reason or sometimes for good reasons.

Lots of foul language & I mean a fuckin ass load of cus words that'll make a drunkin sailor blush. To no one in particular or not.

& to be twitchy as all get out. People tend to leave u the fuck alone with only some of that.
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Happy for you!
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Didn't read it all....but the end came through clearly. God blessed him...what a lucky man is he.


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Wow, what a story.

What city are you in, OP? Or state?

Your narrative is a great reminder of why I RENT instead of OWN. If the neighborhood goes to shit I can just up and move when the lease is up. I wouldn't have that freedom as a homeowner.
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I also lived in the ghetto too for several years because I was young and bought a house very cheap, much cheaper than renting. From experience, the best and quietest time in the ghetto is weekdays between about 5am and 11am because all of the worst elements are sleeping. I tried to keep my front yard nice, but every time I cut the grass I would also have to pick up soda cans, broken wine bottle, chip bags and dozens of those little plastic bottles that the convenience stores sell kid's juice in. Also, from time to time dirty diapers that had been thrown over low fence, cigarette packs and whatever else passers by of my home determined they no longer wanted to be burdened with carrying. The apartment across the street was basically a drug super center, with dealers, junkies, crackheads and whores climbing in and out of the lower windows at all hours of the day and night. When I bought a new pickup, the spare tire underneath it was stolen the first night it was parked.
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My go to is to out crazy the crazies.

Shot gun blasts in the back yard at random times for no reason or sometimes for good reasons.

Lots of foul language & I mean a fuckin ass load of cus words that'll make a drunkin sailor blush. To no one in particular or not.

& to be twitchy as all get out. People tend to leave u the fuck alone with only some of that.
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Right!! flower Crazy card is the ticket.

Evidently no one wants to deal with the white, redneck, crazy woman, chuckle
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Happy for you!
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Thank you rose

It's been a long 5 years.
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I will also admit living in the ghetto helped us pay off our bills and save money toward our dream.
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Excellent, OP! Live the life you've been wanting while you still can. Living in the country is truly a dream come true. Been living in the country since summer of 1999, and I wouldn't really trade it for anything. If I had a low latency broadband Internet connection at my house I'd literally have no use to ever move to the city.
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Wow, what a story.

What city are you in, OP? Or state?

Your narrative is a great reminder of why I RENT instead of OWN. If the neighborhood goes to shit I can just up and move when the lease is up. I wouldn't have that freedom as a homeowner.
 Quoting: Reader 74829768


Augusta, Ga.

'Bout to cross over the river into SC.
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I also lived in the ghetto too for several years because I was young and bought a house very cheap, much cheaper than renting. From experience, the best and quietest time in the ghetto is weekdays between about 5am and 11am because all of the worst elements are sleeping. I tried to keep my front yard nice, but every time I cut the grass I would also have to pick up soda cans, broken wine bottle, chip bags and dozens of those little plastic bottles that the convenience stores sell kid's juice in. Also, from time to time dirty diapers that had been thrown over low fence, cigarette packs and whatever else passers by of my home determined they no longer wanted to be burdened with carrying. The apartment across the street was basically a drug super center, with dealers, junkies, crackheads and whores climbing in and out of the lower windows at all hours of the day and night. When I bought a new pickup, the spare tire underneath it was stolen the first night it was parked.
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I forgot the damned chip bags, candy bars, and snack refuse, all over the front yard, until the wind takes them to the next yard.

Yep, folks have no idea about not littering. Eat and drop it is how they function blink
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I think this story shows that in 5 years living in a low income environment One can save money to upgrade so to speak themselves.

Think of all the people living in a Ghetto. Many feel they are trapped and stuck.

I wonder what the difference is?
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I think this story shows that in 5 years living in a low income environment One can save money to upgrade so to speak themselves.

Think of all the people living in a Ghetto. Many feel they are trapped and stuck.

I wonder what the difference is?
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Fantastic observation!!

Good for you OP! I really like your writing style and wish you the best twirl
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Didn't read it all....but the end came through clearly. God blessed him...what a lucky man is he.


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Well, middle-aged married couple, but yes, hard work and luck flower
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I think this story shows that in 5 years living in a low income environment One can save money to upgrade so to speak themselves.

Think of all the people living in a Ghetto. Many feel they are trapped and stuck.

I wonder what the difference is?
 Quoting: Archaic Smile


A strong desire, and no smart phones, or new cars, and a wavering but steady focus on the dream.

Shopping for shoes and clothes at the salvation army, eating out maybe 6 times a year, growing food in the yard, and having plenty protein from the chickens.

And more ... And yes, 5 years paid off all of our bills and fixed the credit so we could get out of the ghetto.

Thanks AS, karma going to you for recognizing the hard work we have done flower hugs
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Wow, what a story.

What city are you in, OP? Or state?

Your narrative is a great reminder of why I RENT instead of OWN. If the neighborhood goes to shit I can just up and move when the lease is up. I wouldn't have that freedom as a homeowner.
 Quoting: Reader 74829768


Augusta, Ga.

'Bout to cross over the river into SC.
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Wow just Wow ! I understand. Destroyers come and Destroy they will never Stop ! They can't! They don't have the MENTALLY ,SADDD ,but TRUE. Idol1
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Must have been in Gary, IN. That place DOES SUCK.
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Must have been in Gary, IN. That place DOES SUCK.
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LOL, OK, so my reading comprehension sucks... But Gary is a very similar story.
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Wow, what a story.

What city are you in, OP? Or state?

Your narrative is a great reminder of why I RENT instead of OWN. If the neighborhood goes to shit I can just up and move when the lease is up. I wouldn't have that freedom as a homeowner.
 Quoting: Reader 74829768


Augusta, Ga.

'Bout to cross over the river into SC.
 Quoting: Turtle Flower

Wow just Wow ! I understand. Destroyers come and Destroy they will never Stop ! They can't! They don't have the MENTALLY ,SADDD ,but TRUE. Idol1
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Sor, Mentality.hf
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Good read, OP. You have a storyteller's voice!
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Good read, OP. You have a storyteller's voice!
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Thank you, and is why I write books, lol.

The next one is gonna be awesome, and as usual GLP gets it first and free flower
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I moved away from blacks once and they eventually followed me. I've learned that it's just as important to move away from liberals as it is blacks. Thanks to liberals, we went from hardly ever seeing a black to having a black mayor in a little over 10 years.

Your neighbor who rented to Section 8 tenants is an asshole and an idiot. You certainly don't want to grow older in a neighborhood like that. Good luck in the country, watch out for some of the "country people" too.
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We live in an area called Harrisburg, in Georgia. One day my husband came home and asked me about my day ... the song he wrote is basically recreating my day (I love when he does that, lol), and the video below gives an actual view of our neighborhood.

"Not Even Pennsylvania" is the title, cuz we've traveled through Pennsylvania, slept there half-a-dozen times, on our way to New England from Georgia, and it's a pretty weird state, comparatively.

BTW - he's a far better drummer than I ever was flower


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White people are afraid of ghettos since they get thier asses beat when they lie.

The good thing about the internet is that white folks can coward behimd a contract when they lie since they can't produce an honest means of revenue for themselves.

What's sad is that house niqqurs are spreading, and helping jewish people place colored folks back in shackles. Just look at the Air Force's modernised plantation commercials.
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I feel for you - it's terrible that not being wealthy means that you have to live among dangerous, dysfunctional criminals and chavs.
I was talking to a guy who earns very little recently and he was telling me about all the various problems with druggies he has had while sharing apartments with others out of financial necessity.
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That was a really interesting read, you wrote it so well I felt I was living there with you!

I've lived in predominantly black areas (in England) - it's OK for a while, but then you think 'Enough'. It's always the good people who move.
I marvel at how just two families can send a whole street down the tubes. You'd think it'd take 3 or 4 tenants, wouldn't you? Nope - just one or two can make the difference between a place being tolerable or 'let's get out of here'; it's the daily weariness of fending things off that gets you down.
I wish you the best in your new place!
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Thanks for the post OP and good luck hf I don't feel so alone now. I have been on the end of this behavior from all races equally.

It is scarey how shameless full grown, generally healthy adults are now a days. I am not talking about the types you mentioned that may not be as neat as a pin, but they are generally self reliant. If they ask for help for something it is only when they are truly in a bind. And they will only ask for that type of help once.

I am talking about people who are devolving to the point where they need someone else to turn their door handles for them, but at the same time they have "evolved" into experts on incredibly complex shit that did not even exist 10 years ago like smart phones, deep plot television shows/movies, games, social media, etc.

Oh and they are also healthy enough to party, socialize, have hobbies, toys, pets, spouses/lovers, kids, etc. They have enough money and mobility enough for events, vacations, gatherings, but they can't drive to the local store to buy a $3 cheapo screw driver. They know you have one. They know you know how to use it for them. They don't see the point in doing any of it themselves. They get enraged if you dare ask them what is preventing them from doing whatever minor task it is for themselves.

uhoh Scared for where our civilization is at right now. Rich or Poor. all races.
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Thumbs up guy, always in the middle of the road in a wheelchair - he stops cars asking for money. He gets a check, according to the other street people, and he has a prosthetic on one leg. He can walk, but finds the wheelchair better for his particular business.

Corner dude, on the damned corner all the time, gossipy 70 something man who has a appetite for young, and transitioning boys.

It is interesting around here, but also horrendously sad.
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