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Cipro ruins LIVES!!

 
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This is very true. Clindamycin is a far better alternative to Cipro.
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Olive leaf extract
Colloidal silver
Oil of Oregano
Fresh raw garlic

The list goes on. I would exhaust all natural remedies before I would think of taking toxic, poisonous, dangerous pharmaceutical drugs.

Always do tons of reading and research before deciding to take any drugs, and before embarking on self healing. It's a great hobby, studying natural health and healing to take care of your own health.
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Wonderful stuff on your list.
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And another thing, for those of you who still have faith in modern medicine EDUCATE your doctor. If he/she doesn't know how damaging this class of drugs is the problem will go on. My daughter who is a nurse told me to stop blaming the doctors. I suppose she is right. It isn't their fault if they don't know. If it were possible I would sue the company. I went from being an able bodied, do anything I wanted to do to now not being able to do much at all with my joints swelling and taking 2 to 3 days to recover from just a little activity. Consider this as a warning. Your life may be saved but it will never be the same.
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And therein lies the rub.

If it is a life or death situation, we'll take the "never be the same" option.

The problem is, handing out antibiotics like aspirin has itself caused many of those life or death situations we now see. Resistant bacteria are the pure result of that practice.

An even bigger culprit is the constant dosing of ppl who eat mass produced meat. Antibiotics are fed to food animals, humans eat the food animals. That practice HAS.TO.STOP.

Nobody in authority will step up to this mega problem. Pharma R&D are left to do whatever they want, and they don't care; it simply means they get to keep collecting grant money to research and develop drugs to treat the illnesses that drugs cause.

Just so many things wrong, and I don't see how we can fix them all....
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eff you op for posting emotional bs video with almost zero information but a crappy attempt at a tear-jerk soundtrack

eff you, eff you
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I didn't even watch the video - I came in here because I already had some awareness. You know who knows - body builders - they were talking about getting "floxxed" years back -

I wish I had known years back - now I am vigilant going forward.
Who cares is someone posted a video - or raised a flag - or sent smoke signals - who cares how the message gets posted - what matters is that it is received.
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the VA gave me a one month supply of Cipro. I am still walking but they never warned me. It is painful now.
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ONE FUCKING MONTH!!!!
Were they trying to kill you????

This should be a last line of defense antibiotic. Stuff you get in the Hospital, not stuff you take home in a jar to take for a month.
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of course VA wants to kill them

hopefully it doesn't go further than tempting them to abuse medications and painkillers

I think at some level for the groups in control its a game of turning one group against another for their benefit, sitting back and laughing while these various other groups attack each other not realizing they've been manipulated

American public is just another group, as are servicemen ... after they have a laugh at getting you to go off and kill or suppress foreigners, they enjoy mistreating them when they return for "benefits", leave them homeless, mentally ill, etc
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I'm in that system - I gave them some benefit of the doubt when I entered that world after my deployment - now I go once a year for my check up - double check and triple check meds they attempt to put me on and really only use them for those terrible pain flares I can't tolerate and want to almost jump off buildings about - by going into their ER for a torodol jab.
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the VA gave me a one month supply of Cipro. I am still walking but they never warned me. It is painful now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70518667


ONE FUCKING MONTH!!!!
Were they trying to kill you????

This should be a last line of defense antibiotic. Stuff you get in the Hospital, not stuff you take home in a jar to take for a month.
 Quoting: Starbird


That's what they did with me, 4 days on a drip, 1 month oral 1200mg. Infection started in my elbow due to spider bite, got the organs so it was "take this." Did I mention the damned Tinnitus from this shit? My God the noise is unbearable.

What a lot of you don't get is that the natural/herbals do no good with this. Tests don't reveal it, there is no cure for it-although one neurologist at DOD was able to show brain structure changes. You can't sue because there's no path to proof. This is also known as "Gulf war syndrome." Get some vets on this thread
 Quoting: Deplorable Billxam


I'm a vet "with the stuff" - I know sometimes these meds are what lies between you and death - that is not what I am talking about - I am talking about the UTI scripts, the minor stuff - here is your Cipro.

I find a fan running in my room all the time helps with the tinnitus. I stick to mostly naturals for my other symptoms - and I will tell you the bad part - the bad part is you have divorce yourself from processed foods and sugars when you get that deployment related handicapping mulitisymptom shit they should just rename "Living Hell" -
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And another thing, for those of you who still have faith in modern medicine EDUCATE your doctor. If he/she doesn't know how damaging this class of drugs is the problem will go on. My daughter who is a nurse told me to stop blaming the doctors. I suppose she is right. It isn't their fault if they don't know. If it were possible I would sue the company. I went from being an able bodied, do anything I wanted to do to now not being able to do much at all with my joints swelling and taking 2 to 3 days to recover from just a little activity. Consider this as a warning. Your life may be saved but it will never be the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47890936


And therein lies the rub.

If it is a life or death situation, we'll take the "never be the same" option.

The problem is, handing out antibiotics like aspirin has itself caused many of those life or death situations we now see. Resistant bacteria are the pure result of that practice.

An even bigger culprit is the constant dosing of ppl who eat mass produced meat. Antibiotics are fed to food animals, humans eat the food animals. That practice HAS.TO.STOP.

Nobody in authority will step up to this mega problem. Pharma R&D are left to do whatever they want, and they don't care; it simply means they get to keep collecting grant money to research and develop drugs to treat the illnesses that drugs cause.

Just so many things wrong, and I don't see how we can fix them all....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74999404

Those of us who care do what we can to awaken the masses. I was very angry about this being done to me in what I thought was a position of trust. All of my combined experieces after this has made me a better human being. For that alone I am grateful. I don't know if we can stop the trainwreck but I am doing what I can. I guess things have to get worse before it can get better.
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You people should start making your own lacto-fermented vegetables, make your own cheese and make your own beer/wine. Start getting some real healthy bacteria back into your bodies, you are like a depleted barren garden soil with no compost or nutrients and only teeming with bad pathogens.

Make your own, don't rely on that horseshit pro-biotic nonsense.
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I think issues with our health - with our doctors - is one way in which an individual soul might awaken - the red pill so to speak. It horrible we must learn this route. Those of you who lost seemingly healthy grandparents, those that had to under go surgeries after . . . .

Its just a damn shame - but its also a catalyst - for changing us - for helping us to inform others. My experience is why I raise my son differently - I raise him to be aware, to question - to not simply believe that someone else might know what is right for him.
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You people should start making your own lacto-fermented vegetables, make your own cheese and make your own beer/wine. Start getting some real healthy bacteria back into your bodies, you are like a depleted barren garden soil with no compost or nutrients and only teeming with bad pathogens.

Make your own, don't rely on that horseshit pro-biotic nonsense.
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I make quark - super easy - from good milk I get from local source.
Its one start.
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You people should start making your own lacto-fermented vegetables, make your own cheese and make your own beer/wine. Start getting some real healthy bacteria back into your bodies, you are like a depleted barren garden soil with no compost or nutrients and only teeming with bad pathogens.

Make your own, don't rely on that horseshit pro-biotic nonsense.
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I did and was slowly beginning to get better until my world turned upside down. Where I am now it isn't an option and my body's reaction confirms it. A prayer for my situation would be appreciated. And yes, a return to eating, living in, and promoting a return to a natural way of life would eliminate a lot of problems.
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I think issues with our health - with our doctors - is one way in which an individual soul might awaken - the red pill so to speak. It horrible we must learn this route. Those of you who lost seemingly healthy grandparents, those that had to under go surgeries after . . . .

Its just a damn shame - but its also a catalyst - for changing us - for helping us to inform others. My experience is why I raise my son differently - I raise him to be aware, to question - to not simply believe that someone else might know what is right for him.
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Indeed. A shame it takes such catalysts. Cudos to you with your son. My catalysts also gave me a lot of time on this site which is a catalyst for some. I suppose that is why we came and why we stay. Sigh.
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I Believe that Cipro (1 course) fucked up my ankles. It's probably also responsible for my lack of good bacteria in my intestines. I would NEVER take it again. The doctor said my Sciatic nerve was infected/inflamed.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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5*, OP


I found this out many years ago when I had the beginnings of pneumonia. They gave me one, 500 mg dose of Levaquin in the ER, and by the next day the top of my wrist was very painfully inflammed in a red lump, the tendon/connective tissue was under attack. It took a really long time to heal. After that I never allowed them to give me, or anyone in my family, any floxacin or quinolone antibiotics and it is written in all our charts. I pray they can remove these from the market because they are so dangerous and painfully debilitating.
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I Believe that Cipro (1 course) fucked up my ankles. It's probably also responsible for my lack of good bacteria in my intestines. I would NEVER take it again. The doctor said my Sciatic nerve was infected/inflamed.
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One course has put people in wheelchairs. One course is what I had also. Can't remember if it was a 7 day or 10 day. Memory issues are another side effect.
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For those of you who have tendonitis I suggest you look into apitherapy, specifically bee venom therapy.
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Grape seed extract, if you take enough of a dose (at least 1mg per lb of body weight) is very helpful for tendonitis, as are b vitamins.
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Cipro caused my c-diff after only a couple doses.
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Did your shits start smelling like horse manure? Mine did.
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WORSE than that!
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the VA gave me a one month supply of Cipro. I am still walking but they never warned me. It is painful now.
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ONE FUCKING MONTH!!!!
Were they trying to kill you????

This should be a last line of defense antibiotic. Stuff you get in the Hospital, not stuff you take home in a jar to take for a month.
 Quoting: Starbird


That's what they did with me, 4 days on a drip, 1 month oral 1200mg. Infection started in my elbow due to spider bite, got the organs so it was "take this." Did I mention the damned Tinnitus from this shit? My God the noise is unbearable.

What a lot of you don't get is that the natural/herbals do no good with this. Tests don't reveal it, there is no cure for it-although one neurologist at DOD was able to show brain structure changes. You can't sue because there's no path to proof. This is also known as "Gulf war syndrome." Get some vets on this thread
 Quoting: Deplorable Billxam



And 1200 mg is a SHIT TON of a high dosage!

YIKES!!
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Cipro caused my c-diff after only a couple doses.
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thats interesting it did same thing to my grandma massive c-diff issue,,she also had severe pain in her legs as well..

i think it did something to her heart 5 weeks after taking it she needed a pacemaker put in...then dies another 6 weeks after that..
she never had any severe issues until the doc put her on cipro..

the pharm industry is the fucking devil..
 Quoting: Waffles ™


scared


HORRY SHIT, waffles!!!!


When I was better and went back to the Dr, he said C-diff was wicked and he had "lost" 4 patients in the past year to it!


I figured I was healthier, and "lucky," and dodged a bullet. Now I wonder if the meds he prescribed were the problem in the first place for all those other people.

It was bad, but it never really occurred to me that I could DIE, until he said that.....
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Cipro absolutely fucked me up with severe Achilles tendonitis. The pain is slowly resolving with angstrom magnesium, but lesson learned. I could have been crippled for life.
I would prefer not to.
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We believe it was levaquin that led to a relative's Aortic aneurysm.

Risk of Aortic Dissection and Aortic Aneurysm in Patients Taking Oral Fluoroquinolone.
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Cipro kills bacteria.
So does gasoline.

Chemo kills cancer cells.
So does gasoline.

Sunlight kills bacteria and cancer cells, .....
uuuh, don't need gasoline.

Get the frig outside and get some Sunlight. Remove the underarm products so your lymph system CAN DRAIN, and SWEAT. Stop drinking city water. Stop consuming fluoride and birth control. Get your minerals right.

Stop being sick
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BUMP !!!
Praise God from Whom all Blessings flow !!!
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Interesting topic
I took this medication and my tendons started feel
Sensitive but I am back to normal.

Location : my wrists
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this crap

WONT GIVE YOU C-DIFF

you already had c-diff if you take this or any other kinda antibiotic and get c-diff

if you are subject to get c-diff

TAKE PRO BIOTICS

not just yogurt

and c-diff is BAD "SHIT" it can kill

but thnx for the thread i never knew it was such bad shit
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It can wipe out some of your resident good bacteria to the point that it will not grow back.

Replenishing good bacteria with probiotics is a fallacious concept. None of the strains have ever been shown to colonize. The longest they have been shown to survive is about 4 weeks.

Use antibiotics only as a last resort in a life or death situation.
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Cipro must come from some substance(s) used for strong curses.
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Cipro absolutely fucked me up with severe Achilles tendonitis. The pain is slowly resolving with angstrom magnesium, but lesson learned. I could have been crippled for life.
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You're lucky to get a second chance. To some extent, it could have effected every tendon in your body. You may be in a recovery phase for a long time. It's hard to get around without your tendons.
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Cipro caused my c-diff after only a couple doses.
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C-diff can be cured by a "fecal transplant". Gross, but true. It's best to take it from a genetic relative.

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Cipro caused my c-diff after only a couple doses.
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C-diff can be cured by a "fecal transplant". Gross, but true. It's best to take it from a genetic relative.

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