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The soul is not immortal

 
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When we die our conscious energy - soul
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


That is not what a soul is.

You are a soul.

You will cease to exist when you die, and your body returns to the earth and your spirit, which has no consciousness of it's own returns to God.

You're not immortal. Only in Christ can we hope for immortality.
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Read Michael Newton's Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls... then do a past life regression session, and tell us your thoughts then.
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When we die our conscious energy - soul
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


That is not what a soul is.

You are a soul.

You will cease to exist when you die, and your body returns to the earth and your spirit, which has no consciousness of it's own returns to God.

You're not immortal. Only in Christ can we hope for immortality.
 Quoting: Photine


9teen Then why are you spreading confusion in your earlier posts before finally speaking some truth. I distrust you.
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Perhaps this will surprise most, even most Christians, but the Bible refers to the soul as immortal zero times, rather, it says "Only God is immortal". 1 Timothy 6:16, and says that the dead "know nothing" Ecclesiastes 9:5.

Indeed, "Christ formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7.

So we are living souls, which consist of two parts: dust (body), and the breath of life (spirit).

When one dies, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7.

So the two parts which make up a soul, a living being are separated at death, and the soul ceases to be.

"The body without the spirit is dead." James 2:26

Nowhere in all of the Bible does is say that the "spirit" has any life, wisdom, or feeling after a person dies. It is the "breath of life" and nothing more.

"the dead do not know anything; they have no further reward--and even the memory of them disappears."
Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV
 Quoting: Photine


so we have to take the words of the bible literally ? (in your opinion)
 Quoting: Army-of-Souls


Yes, and soon those who take the words of the Bible literally will literally be hunted down like dogs and tortured, imprisoned, and murdered.
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
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When we die our conscious energy - soul
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


That is not what a soul is.

You are a soul.

You will cease to exist when you die, and your body returns to the earth and your spirit, which has no consciousness of it's own returns to God.

You're not immortal. Only in Christ can we hope for immortality.
 Quoting: Photine


9teen Then why are you spreading confusion in your earlier posts before finally speaking some truth. I distrust you.
 Quoting: Judethz


What confusion are you talking about?
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
Amos 3:7 WYC
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We are the eternal universe experiencing itself subjectively, through the lenses of perceived "individuality".

We truly are all linked. God is within us all, and everywhere else.

That's the problem with this world. We either think to much, or not at all. We all need to feel with our hearts more.
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This is satanic.
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pffft-spitsmoke
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We are the eternal universe experiencing itself subjectively, through the lenses of perceived "individuality".

We truly are all linked. God is within us all, and everywhere else.

That's the problem with this world. We either think to much, or not at all. We all need to feel with our hearts more.
 Quoting: Master of Nothing


This is satanic.
 Quoting: Photine


pffft-spitsmoke
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73707181


Perhaps you would know it by the name Pantheism.

The idea isn't new, it's as old as Eve:

Genesis 3:5 King James Version
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

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"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
Amos 3:7 WYC
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Perhaps this will surprise most, even most Christians, but the Bible refers to the soul as immortal zero times, rather, it says "Only God is immortal". 1 Timothy 6:16, and says that the dead "know nothing" Ecclesiastes 9:5.

Indeed, "Christ formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Genesis 2:7.

So we are living souls, which consist of two parts: dust (body), and the breath of life (spirit).

When one dies, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:7.

So the two parts which make up a soul, a living being are separated at death, and the soul ceases to be.

"The body without the spirit is dead." James 2:26

Nowhere in all of the Bible does is say that the "spirit" has any life, wisdom, or feeling after a person dies. It is the "breath of life" and nothing more.

"the dead do not know anything; they have no further reward--and even the memory of them disappears."
Ecclesiastes 9:5 KJV
 Quoting: Photine


so we have to take the words of the bible literally ? (in your opinion)
 Quoting: Army-of-Souls


Yes, and soon those who take the words of the Bible literally will literally be hunted down like dogs and tortured, imprisoned, and murdered.
 Quoting: Photine


well, if you agree with the bible literally... what should people do to me if:

- I work 7 days a week ? ; (Exodus 35:2)
- I've committed adultery 20 years ago (Leviticus 20:13) ?

stone me to death ?
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The end of the beginning...
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Interesting..

The way i look at it, is that God is the ultimate consciousness that runs through everything and is everywhere. From an acorn seed to a human embryo.

When we die our conscious energy - soul, reconnects with the vast universal ocean of consciousness that is God. I've come to this realization and it honestly makes sense with your OP! Our souls are never separated from God, our subjective perception has caused so many to have forgotten.

hf
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This is 100% it.
I've taken shrooms and was told this.
I survived what would've killed most and saw this.
I live everyday knowing there is no such thing as coincidence.
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“The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering.”
- Bruce Lee
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The Bible says after death a person: returns to dust (Psalms 104:29), knows nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5), possesses no mental powers (Psalms 146:4), has nothing to do with anything on earth (Ecclesiastes 9:6), does not live (2 Kings 20:1), waits in the grave (Job 17:13), and continues not (Job 14:1, 2).
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
Amos 3:7 WYC
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Most of you should be grateful the soul can die.

Where you are all going, it will be a blessing.
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To the person who left me bad karma, I did not pin this thread, a moderator did. So there.
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
Amos 3:7 WYC
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To the person who left me bad karma, I did not pin this thread, a moderator did. So there.
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Oh?

Who keeps pinning your shitty threads?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75200042


Normally it's me. The orange pin tells you that it was a mod.
 Quoting: Photine

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Only some Christians are going to believe what you posted op. Many people do not believe in what you posted and have their own thoughts and beliefs on the soul. Such as myself. Sorry op but I think that must have been a bad interpretation of the Bible. For it is wrong. The energy, soul, spirit, ghost ....whatever word you want to call it IS ETERNAL.
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Omg....the fear of blinking out forever.




Well I guess it is time for everyone to get naked and party.
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Thread: God will destroy you if you eat pork. No true Christian tell people that God will destroy you for eating pork.God gave all animals and plants for people as their friends,source of food.OP won't answer to me because I exposed her heresies ,she won't explain this heresy because she's lost ,lost people tend to repeat same shit over and over again and hestitate to accept the truth
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Revelation 18:2

2 And he cried 1mightily with a loud voice, saying, c“Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and ea cage for every unclean and hated bird!


This verse refers to some birds as being unclean just before the second coming of Christ, so obviously the death of Christ did not abolish the health laws, which God gave to us for our own good and for all time.

"And the Lord commanded us to do all these statutes ... for our good always, that he might preserve us alive." Deuteronomy 6:24

No, the Bible clearly states that all who break them will be destroyed when Jesus returns (Isaiah 66:15-17).

"For, behold, the Lord will come with fire ... and by his sword will the Lord plead with all flesh: and the slain of the Lord shall be many. They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves ... eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, SHALL BE CONSUMED together, saith the Lord." Isaiah 66:15-17.

The definition of consume is:
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: to do away with completely : destroy

Fire consumed several buildings

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To the person who left me bad karma, I did not pin this thread, a moderator did. So there.
 Quoting: Photine


Oh?

Who keeps pinning your shitty threads?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75200042


Normally it's me. The orange pin tells you that it was a mod.
 Quoting: Photine

 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatFace


Those posts say the same thing, lol.
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
Amos 3:7 WYC
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Yes, and soon those who take the words of the Bible literally will literally be hunted down like dogs and tortured, imprisoned, and murdered.
 Quoting: Photine


Jesus wept.
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Only some Christians are going to believe what you posted op. Many people do not believe in what you posted and have their own thoughts and beliefs on the soul. Such as myself. Sorry op but I think that must have been a bad interpretation of the Bible. For it is wrong. The energy, soul, spirit, ghost ....whatever word you want to call it IS ETERNAL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19439566


The part that returns to God (the spirit/breath of life) is not *you*, nor is it conscious, or has any wisdom, or any feeling, etc.

What *you* are (a living being) is a living soul, and it consists of two parts, and cannot exist without them. Body *and* spirit.
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
Amos 3:7 WYC
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To the person who left me bad karma, I did not pin this thread, a moderator did. So there.
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Oh?

Who keeps pinning your shitty threads?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75200042


Normally it's me. The orange pin tells you that it was a mod.
 Quoting: Photine

 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatFace


Those posts say the same thing, lol.
 Quoting: Photine


I've had plenty of posts I've self-pinned get mod pinned.
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To the person who left me bad karma, I did not pin this thread, a moderator did. So there.
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Oh?

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Normally it's me. The orange pin tells you that it was a mod.
 Quoting: Photine

 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatFace


Those posts say the same thing, lol.
 Quoting: Photine


I've had plenty of posts I've self-pinned get mod pinned.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatFace


Is that what you claim happened?
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
Amos 3:7 WYC
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Garbage.This poster promotes hatred against ordinary people ,Christians for example Catholic Poles

Thread: Isn't it a bit coincidental that the most Catholic country (Poland) is seen as the savior of Europe?

This poster is mentally unstable ,who the fuck spends whole hours writing this garbage?

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Someone who is getting PAID to do it
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Oh?

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 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatFace


Those posts say the same thing, lol.
 Quoting: Photine


I've had plenty of posts I've self-pinned get mod pinned.
 Quoting: BoatyMcBoatFace


Is that what you claim happened?
 Quoting: Photine


Does it matter? Quit being a libtard and censoring speech you don't agree with. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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So what's the point....to tell us all that we are dead and that is it?
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Only some Christians are going to believe what you posted op. Many people do not believe in what you posted and have their own thoughts and beliefs on the soul. Such as myself. Sorry op but I think that must have been a bad interpretation of the Bible. For it is wrong. The energy, soul, spirit, ghost ....whatever word you want to call it IS ETERNAL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19439566


The part that returns to God (the spirit/breath of life) is not *you*, nor is it conscious, or has any wisdom, or any feeling, etc.

What *you* are (a living being) is a living soul, and it consists of two parts, and cannot exist without them. Body *and* spirit.
 Quoting: Photine


That's what you choose to believe. Many people see it different.
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Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.'
Then they also will answer, saying, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?'
Then he will answer them, saying, 'Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.'

And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.



Matthew 25:41-46
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Omg....the fear of blinking out forever.




Well I guess it is time for everyone to get naked and party.
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glpaward
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We are the eternal universe experiencing itself subjectively, through the lenses of perceived "individuality".

We truly are all linked. God is within us all, and everywhere else.

That's the problem with this world. We either think to much, or not at all. We all need to feel with our hearts more.
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 Quoting: Army-of-Souls

Wrong
propoganda you are demons under mind control
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Garbage.This poster promotes hatred against ordinary people ,Christians for example Catholic Poles Thread: Isn't it a bit coincidental that the most Catholic country (Poland) is seen as the savior of Europe? This poster is mentally unstable ,who the fuck spends whole hours writing this garbage?

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Catholics are biggest Muslim enemies not their friends
 Quoting: Kek the Winged Hussar


"The great counterfeit religion was Roman Catholicism, called “Mystery, Babylon the Great, the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth.” Revelation 17:5. She was raised up to block the gospel, slaughter the believers in Christ, establish religions, create wars and make the nations drunk with the wine of her fornication as we will see..

Somehow the Vatican had to create a weapon to eliminate both the Je-ws and the true Christian believers who refused to accept Roman Catholicism. Looking to North Africa, they saw the multitudes of Arabs as a source of manpower to do their dirty work.

Some Arabs had become Roman Catholic, and could be used in reporting information to leaders in Rome. Others were used in an underground spy network to carry out Rome s master plan to control the great multitudes of Arabs who rejected Catholicism. When “St. Augustine” appeared on the scene, he knew what was going on. His monasteries served as bases to seek out and destroy Bible manuscripts owned by the true Christians.

The Vatican wanted to create a messiah for the Arabs, someone they could raise up as a great leader, a man with charisma whom they could train, and eventually unite all the non-Catholic Arabs behind him, creating a mighty army that would ultimately capture Jerusalem for the pope.."

Sound familiar?

hitler

This comes from the Ex Jesuit, Alberto Rivera who was murdered for exposing them.. He became a fundamentalist Protestant!

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"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
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Can't we all agree to disagree and live in peace with each other's beliefs ? Each person can believe whatever they want as long as they respect others right to believe what they want and don't hurt anyone else. Done.





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