Tucker just kicked NeoCon War Monger Ralph Peters ass.

Peters is a real nut job. Tucker handled him well. Peters is living in a made up world and acting on the made up shit. Scary stuff.

Peters is a nutcase.

Wow! Peter's calls Russians "terrorists." He repeats verbatim the Obama State Department lie that "they target hospitals." And that "they aren't targeting ISIS in Syria." Bullshit. Russia has been targeting ISIS and the other terrorist groups from day one, whilst Obama and the Neocons armed them and sent them into Syria for the purposes of regime change. This Peters character is actually engaging in verbal terrorism against Russia as well as the truth, and he is putting American national security at risk in the process. I can't believe I am watching this naked propaganda and warmongering being so casually uttered. It's like Goebbels reincarnated.
It's sickening to watch but more evidence to my mind that the Neocon establishment wants a hot war with Russia. It is actually diabolical what is happening: there's really no logical reason why anyone would want to have a nuclear war with Russia (and any war with Russia will be nuclear by default). This kind of warmongering demands a preternatural explanation, since it defies the natural human logic of self-preservation of the species. The warmongering seems to have been getting worse and worse since 2001. And this year is the 100th Anniversary of the Fatima Apparitions, where all of this was predicted in the first place. Two paths were offered humanity in 1917 by the Blessed Virgin in that Fatima apparition: Repent or face a chastisement at the hand of a converted Russia. Our Lady wasn't joking.

The US Army belongs to the Muslim Brotherhood.

Peters said Putin is evil cuz he takes out journalists ... OK ... He's got my vote right there. The Donald maybe should take some lessons from a lad on that ... be a LOT less fake news if every time the LIED they got clintoned!!!

That would be Vlad ...

The enemy of my enemy is my friend...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

:Baghdadi:

(k**ling Baghdadi)... could be a big victory in the war on terror. So why aren't more in the US more excited about it and should we be willing to work with Russia against Islamic extremism? ...

For the record? - Lt. Colonel Ralph Peters (Ret.)

Yes.

Maybe YOUR friends take money from foreign governments. I don't and MY friends don't.

I hope they don't. It's appalling - how much of that happens. And it's appalling how much of our policy is influenced by foreign governments and you may see that at work now. The Saudis are dead set against Iran (they have every reason to be). But I'm hearing a lot of people in Washington (and the Gulf states all feel the same way). A lot of people in Washington say, 'Well, maybe, you know, defeating ISIS ISN'T such a victory. We've often focused on defeating the Sunni terror threat embodied by ISIS and now, as we're moving toward achieving that, all of a sudden Iran is the real problem. Why shouldn't we take a moment to celebrate the potential death of Baghdadi?

Well, indeed we should. But I would not jump to the conclusion the Russians k**led him. They actually walked back their claim that they've k**led him. If you look at the timelines, the odds ar pretty good that if he's dead (let's hope he is dead) he was killed by a coalition backed aircraft. The Russians have NOT been seriously fighting ISIS. The Russians in Syria have been bombing hospitals, clinics, refugee columns, schools, and - oh, by the way. They've been bombing the people we've been supporting, the… Assad opposition. Whereas they've been letting US take care of ISIS. And we've done a good job.

The Russians are certainly brutal. So I don't have trouble believing anything you've just said.

But you want an alliance with them?

I don't know why we wouldn't.

Let me tell you why we wouldn't.

It's confusing to me why, when you have a power like Russia, which obviously has interests that divert from ours, but have some that align here. They've lost a lot of people to Sunni terrorism. Why wouldn't we cheer them on in their effort to stamp it out?

Well, certainly we would. But we can't have an anti-terror alliance with terrorists, which is what the Russians are (they're not Islamist terrorists), and they hate the United States of America. Again. Bombing hospitals, clinics, schools... murdering dissidents and journalists at home and abroad. We have nothing in common with the Russians.

More or less than we do with the Saudis - our allies, the Saudis?

Well, the Saudis. I have no brook for the Saudis.

Because they're our main allies in this?

They're not my main ally! I was warning about the Saudis DECADES ago if you read what I wrote about them. And the problem with Iran is that Iran is now - we evaluated just about everybody. We've blown it right and left in the Middle East. And now you've got an Iran building an empire that will stretch from western Afghanistan to the Mediterranean. We've been doing a great job fighting ISIS. We've got the Iraqis, the Kurds especially, moving in the right direction.

But when ISIS is defeated, and it WILL be defeated, and (we) crush the caliphate, and (it) essentially is no more. When it is, we will not be welcome but the Iranians will be. Because we have never had a strategy, we don't have a strategy, and we won't because we've played jailbird checkers and the Iranians and the Russians play chess.

I'm a little bit confused on a couple fronts. One. We've had over 3,000 Americans k**led in this country by about a dozen acts of terrorism in the last 16 years. NONE of them committed by Shiites. None. ALL of them committed by Sunni extremism. We actually don't face any domestic threat from Iran.

Absolutely right.

We do face a MASSIVE threat from Sunni terrorists supported by Saudi Arabia and all these countries we say are our friends. A.

B. If we're so afraid of Iran, why did we k**l Saddam Hussein, thereby EMPOWERING Iran?

Because we we're stupid.

But why are the same people who supported that "stupid" act... NOW agitating for a war with Iran?

I personally don't know anyone who's agitating for a war with Iran.

I do. I know a LOT of people.

OK. Well, you know different people than I do. I know people that think we have to eventually stand up to the Iranians thanks to President Obama's outright cowardice and shameful treatment of our sailors for which John Kerry THANKED the Iranians when they were captured.

Yes. Disgusting.

But the Middle East is a very, very complex world. We refuse to think clearly about it, honestly about it. Just as you pointed out. No Americans have been k**led in the United States by Shia terrorists, Sunni terrorists. Yet our President just went to Saudi Arabia and praised the Saudis to the skies. Our President seemed determined to do any deal we can with the Russians... Vladimir Putin hates us! He is malevolent. He is as close to pure evil as I can find. He's also brilliant.

I don't understand why any American would want an alliance with Russia. We should be strengthening our alliances with Democracies instead of trashing NATO (which) we should be building up much more strongly. Why attack Australia? Why attack Canada? For God's sakes -

... I'm not vouching for Putin's character. He seems like a shady guy. A strongman for sure. I wouldn't want to live there.

He's a k**ler.

It's hard to see why he's a threat to us. How many wars can we fight at once? How many people can we be in opposition to at once? Why not just accept it? People who are bad people share our interests and - side with them?

You sound like Charles Lindberg in 1938 saying, 'Hitler hasn't attacked us.'

I beg your pardon? Slow down. Hey. Slow down. I am not in any way - You cannot compare me to someone who would make apologies for Hitler. And I don't think Putin's comparable to Hitler.

Well, you're making - I think Putin IS.

I think it's a grotesque overstatement. It's insanse!

Fine. You can think it's insane all you want.

You just compared me to a Nazi apologist because I asked a simple question!

No, no. You get away with this.

Which is, why does it contravene American interests in a common cause with a group that's trying to k**l ISIS?

Because Vladimir Putin INVADED his neighbors, broke a long peace in Europe, he assassinates dissidents and journalists, he bombs women and children on purpose in Syria, he IS as bad as Hitler. And I'm sorry if you don't like the Charles Lindberg thing. I will retract that. But let's just say you sound like SOMEONE in 1938 saying, 'What's Hitler done to US?' Putin is the equivalent of Hiter.

I would hate to go back and read your columns assuring America that "taking out Saddam Hussein will make the region calmer, more peaceful, and America safer" when, in fact, it has done exactly the opposite and it has empowered Russia and Iran, the two countries you say you fear most. Let's just be totally honest here. We don't always know the outcomes.

Right.

They're NOT entirely predictable. So maybe we should lower the moral tone a little bit rather than calling people accommodationist and say, 'We're not exactly sure what's going to happen. We can only make good decisions day by day.'

You made your career being an American Conservative patriot. Now you're suddenly cheering for Vladimir Putin??

I'm not in any sense cheering for Vladimir Putin. I'm cheering for America as always. Our interests ought to come first. To the extent that making temporary alliances with other countries serve our interests, I'm in favor of that. Making sweeping moral claims, comparing people to Hitler, advances the ball not once inch, actually.

Vladimir Putin... HATES America, he wants to hurt us. I'm sorry. All this - suddenly, 'Vladmir Putin's a good guy. Russia's OK.' Not it's not! Russia is evil. Russia is our enemy.

So we cannot in any way do business or make common cause with a country whose leader is "evil", a "bad person"? That takes most of the world off the table. Most countries are run by really bad people. That's not the question.

You're not talking about "dealing with them". You're talking about an ALLIANCE, anti-terror alliance?? Come on.

First step. Cheering on ANY attacks made by Russia against our mortal enemy, our real enemy, ISIS. Why not just say, 'That's great. I don't like Putin. I'm not living in Russia. I'm not taking money from the guy. But a good deed is a good deed no matter who commits it.' Why not just say that?

Putin isn't k**ling ISIS primarily. He's attacking the anti-Assad people while letting US fight ISIS.

Are you convinced - Do you speak Arabic, by the way?

No, I don't.

Oh, you don't. OK.

How's your Russian?

It's non existent. I would never claim to be a Russian expert. But I'm not sitting here talking about groups about whom I know very little, and I bet you're in that category, in Syria and saying, 'Their freedom fighters, they're serving the interests of freedom or Democracy or American interests,' when, in fact, a lot of these groups, we know very little about them. Some of them are truly bad people who don't have our interests at heart.

Indeed. We're not backing the truly bad people. And how about Assad? Is Assad a good guy?

Ask Christians and blah who lived in Syria who he protected.

If we align with Russia we are aligning with Iran, with Assad.

And that's bad for American interests because why??

Do you think Iran is good for American interests?

I think Iran's a bad country and in a lot of ways against America and American interests. But within the context of Syria, Assad was much better for America than the people I believe you hope to replace him with.

The Kurds? How about the Kurds?

So, the Kurds are going to run Syria?

No. They're going to have their independence.

You're going to break up Syria into lots of little countries... because it worked so well in Iraq?

It hasn't broken up yet. The problem with Iraq was in 2003, when we had the chance, we DIDN'T break it up.

We didn't break it up. Last question. Would you, knowing what you know now, that deposing Saddam - his subsequent death empowered Iran dramatically and, in fact, we explicitly HELPED Iran gain traction in Iraq. Do you think that was a wise idea and do you think there are any lessons going forward in Syria that maybe when you take out a secular leader the vacuum is filled by even worse people?

That is a valid point you can make... In 2003 we did a great thing inexcusably badly. Rumsfeld k**ling the MP brigades - there are a lot of reasons for it. We believed any Iraqi emigree who spoke English with an Oxford accent or wore a well tailored suit. Our intentions were great. But if I had to do it over again, no. I would not get rid of Saddam Hussein because we hadn't thought it through.

But you're confident that we've thought through what comes after Assad whose run the country for decades, peacefully, actually?

K**ling half a million of your own people probably doesn't mean you should remain in charge.

Before the civil war. I don't make any apologies for Bashar Assad.

It sounds like you're sitting here making apologies for him.

So because I'm asking rational questions about what's best for America I'm a friend to strongmen and dictators? ... My only point is when Syria was run by Assad, 10% of the population was Christian and they lived in relative peace.

That is absolutely true. It is also true...

What's happened to those people now?

It's also true his father k**led 30,000 or more people. Let's be fair. Barack Obama certainly blew it right, left and center from shear trepidation, cowardice and his inability to ever make a decision. But we are where we are with half a million Syrians dead, primarily killed by the Assad regime, the Iranians, Hezbollah, and now the Russians. Yet you want us to align with the Russians, with Iran, with Assad...

I want us to act in America's interests and stop making shallow, sweeping moral claims about countries we don't fully understand and then hope everything will be fine in the end. I just saw that happen and it didn't work!

You're doing that with Russia!

I'm not doing that now. I'm merely saying if a country we don't like takes active steps to k**l people who are a threat to us, I'm going to pause and applaud. I'm not going to stand back and compare their leader to Hitler because it makes me feel virtuous. That's what I said.

But the fault in your logic is that Assad, the Iranians - the Russians are k**ling the anti-Assad forces...

You haven't explained why I as an American should be terrified by Iran or Assad. I think an American leader should act in the interests of their own country primarily. That's the number one job they have. And they're not doing it.

You changed the subject. You couldn't answer me on Putin so you changed the subject to Assad. I want to know why you think Vladimir Putin's OK.

I don't think he's OK. He think he's fighting ISIS. ISIS is a threat to us.

You want an anti-terror alliance with Russia.

:Peters:

Bombs that k**l ISIS.



Last Edited by XJDUB on 07/12/2017 03:45 PM

Peters' voice is hillarious. How can anyone take him seriously with the voice of an twelve year old girl?

good debate ... tucker won and didn't even get to use the real facts

ISIS was running huge truck convoys shipping oil that everyone knew about, Russians showed photos to Obama and later Russia destroyed those convoys and stopped them

how about the most important real fact, 9/11 was a false-flag ... I can even believe it was basically carried out by Israel for its own benefit and our own intel agencies are running about assuming someone important must have a handle on it, that we actually did it, but nobody is allowed to investigate and in reality it was Israel .. can you imagine ? in the presidents briefing we pretend the false-flag was real ... they all think that our govt did it, in reality it was Israel

socially constructed reality that departs from objective reality in significant and dangerous ways

this mindset is probably applauded in large parts of military establishment ... they're just stuck in it and don't open their eyes and look at the world as it really is

I was listening to this on XM last night. Couldnt believe the propaganda spewed by this asshole

Thanks for the transcript.

How can anyone take this asshat (Peters) seriously after he put on the Pom Poms and cheered for the Iraq war, and now says it was wrong but does the same thing for Syria?



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