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Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.

 
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Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
What if in fact aliens exist and are the driving force of our evolution. What if the Bible like many ancient accounts on history, mistaken these beings as God's? How would you feel if your entire belief system was proven to be an inflation of truth from lack of understanding advanced tech. And life on other planets.
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Fallen angels and angels were created as a static number. The only increase noted in the past was when they were having children.
They would have been the makers of all the ancient monuments we have and the destruction would have been part of the flood. The universe should have many such cities that will be abandoned when mankind gets there as all angelic beings will have moved to a new perfected heaven when they can can be given in marriage.
Adam was the first created man. The other beings in Ge:1 were modeled after these beasts and any remains of man is the remains of primates, beasts of the field with the faces of men.

Re:4:7:
And the first beast was like a lion,
and the second beast like a calf,
and the third beast had a face as a man,
and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
What if in fact aliens exist and are the driving force of our evolution. What if the Bible like many ancient accounts on history, mistaken these beings as God's? How would you feel if your entire belief system was proven to be an inflation of truth from lack of understanding advanced tech. And life on other planets.
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That's almost Actually How It Is
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
What if in fact aliens exist and are the driving force of our evolution. What if the Bible like many ancient accounts on history, mistaken these beings as God's? How would you feel if your entire belief system was proven to be an inflation of truth from lack of understanding advanced tech. And life on other planets.
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OP:What if there are no aliens and just God and hell for those who do not believe in Him?
There is no proof left by Aliens as to their existence, but there is Proof left by God, ie the Bible, of God's existence. So which is more credible?
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
G-d is G-d of the entire universe. So i believe if there any succesful other life forms out there, they believe in G-d, and if they are so advanced they must be helpers of G-d. But it's a bit crazy to think about it
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
Fallen angels and angels were created as a static number. The only increase noted in the past was when they were having children.
They would have been the makers of all the ancient monuments we have and the destruction would have been part of the flood. The universe should have many such cities that will be abandoned when mankind gets there as all angelic beings will have moved to a new perfected heaven when they can can be given in marriage.
Adam was the first created man. The other beings in Ge:1 were modeled after these beasts and any remains of man is the remains of primates, beasts of the field with the faces of men.

Re:4:7:
And the first beast was like a lion,
and the second beast like a calf,
and the third beast had a face as a man,
and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Not to be rude but your not answering my question. And the dumbfounded idea that aliens are fallen angels. You would have to interpret the Bible as completely literal. Which would make no sense and preachers wouldn't be necessary to INTERPRET THE BIBLE. it's nothing more then a a desperate attempt of faith to make up any excuse you can to continue to convince yourself that your faith is 100% uncorruptible. We know now that magic is the stuff of fairytales and science continues to reign supreme. If aliens exist that means your entire belief system would be removed entirely or you could go into phycological denial. I don't try to suck people away from their decision to believe in anything. But personally I do believe in complex life, more evolved then humans. The only reason I believe it, is because of the hundreds of sighting I've encountered in the past 15 years. In my experience this is fact. If I seen god or an angel or anything of the sort then things may be different.
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
G-d is G-d of the entire universe. So i believe if there any succesful other life forms out there, they believe in G-d, and if they are so advanced they must be helpers of G-d. But it's a bit crazy to think about it
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Yeah but god could just be a driving cosmic energy that regulates creation and formation. A automatic system. Creation/destruction then back to creation. It may not actually be a sentient being.
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
What if their are no aliens and no god either is just as plausible question that you should probably ask yourself.
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
Fallen angels and angels were created as a static number. The only increase noted in the past was when they were having children.
They would have been the makers of all the ancient monuments we have and the destruction would have been part of the flood. The universe should have many such cities that will be abandoned when mankind gets there as all angelic beings will have moved to a new perfected heaven when they can can be given in marriage.
Adam was the first created man. The other beings in Ge:1 were modeled after these beasts and any remains of man is the remains of primates, beasts of the field with the faces of men.

Re:4:7:
And the first beast was like a lion,
and the second beast like a calf,
and the third beast had a face as a man,
and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Not to be rude but your not answering my question. And the dumbfounded idea that aliens are fallen angels. You would have to interpret the Bible as completely literal. Which would make no sense and preachers wouldn't be necessary to INTERPRET THE BIBLE. it's nothing more then a a desperate attempt of faith to make up any excuse you can to continue to convince yourself that your faith is 100% uncorruptible. We know now that magic is the stuff of fairytales and science continues to reign supreme. If aliens exist that means your entire belief system would be removed entirely or you could go into phycological denial. I don't try to suck people away from their decision to believe in anything. But personally I do believe in complex life, more evolved then humans. The only reason I believe it, is because of the hundreds of sighting I've encountered in the past 15 years. In my experience this is fact. If I seen god or an angel or anything of the sort then things may be different.
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Fairytales?

Thousands of alien "sightings" abduct

MILLIONS of testimonies by Believers of God, who have a book that is THE most read and published book in the history of mankind. Of which portions the Old Testament that have been dated to at least 600 BC with archeological finds.

Multiple thousands of miracles unexplained by "science", that only the existance of God can explain.

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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
What if in fact aliens exist and are the driving force of our evolution. What if the Bible like many ancient accounts on history, mistaken these beings as God's? How would you feel if your entire belief system was proven to be an inflation of truth from lack of understanding advanced tech. And life on other planets.
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OP:What if there are no aliens and just God and hell for those who do not believe in Him?
There is no proof left by Aliens as to their existence, but there is Proof left by God, ie the Bible, of God's existence. So which is more credible?
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EVERY SINGLE PYRAMID built to ALIGN MATHEMATICALLY PERFECT WITH THE STARS. have accredited their out of the blue knowledge to beings that came from the stars. How is that not proof? You think a bunch of people could build such complex things that baffle historian's even today. But when they tell you the people responsible are from the stars live in specific constellations. We're supposed to just say that can't be true cause the Bible said if your a good boy I'll give you some kind of 50s style heaven with pearly Gates and cheese and crackers next to Jesus? Or a place where you burn for eternity? It's kinda dumb that you actually thing there's no evidence. There government black projects dedicated to extraterrestrials not one program that has shit to do with the Bible. There literally NO EVIDENCE supporting the Bible. But there's tens of thousands of reports every year on ufo encounters.
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
Religions are now and always have been money making schemes. All of their "teachings" circle back to "pay the church." Obvious.
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
Fallen angels and angels were created as a static number. The only increase noted in the past was when they were having children.
They would have been the makers of all the ancient monuments we have and the destruction would have been part of the flood. The universe should have many such cities that will be abandoned when mankind gets there as all angelic beings will have moved to a new perfected heaven when they can can be given in marriage.
Adam was the first created man. The other beings in Ge:1 were modeled after these beasts and any remains of man is the remains of primates, beasts of the field with the faces of men.

Re:4:7:
And the first beast was like a lion,
and the second beast like a calf,
and the third beast had a face as a man,
and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Not to be rude but your not answering my question. And the dumbfounded idea that aliens are fallen angels. You would have to interpret the Bible as completely literal. Which would make no sense and preachers wouldn't be necessary to INTERPRET THE BIBLE. it's nothing more then a a desperate attempt of faith to make up any excuse you can to continue to convince yourself that your faith is 100% uncorruptible. We know now that magic is the stuff of fairytales and science continues to reign supreme. If aliens exist that means your entire belief system would be removed entirely or you could go into phycological denial. I don't try to suck people away from their decision to believe in anything. But personally I do believe in complex life, more evolved then humans. The only reason I believe it, is because of the hundreds of sighting I've encountered in the past 15 years. In my experience this is fact. If I seen god or an angel or anything of the sort then things may be different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71509144


Fairytales?

Thousands of alien "sightings" abduct

MILLIONS of testimonies by Believers of God, who have a book that is THE most read and published book in the history of mankind. Of which portions the Old Testament that have been dated to at least 600 BC with archeological finds.

Multiple thousands of miracles unexplained by "science", that only the existance of God can explain.

sockpuppet sockpuppet sockpuppet sockpuppet sockpuppet
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Millions of dumbass people who were TOLD WHAT TO BELIEVE, VULNERABLE PEOPLE THAT ARE BRAIN WASHED, TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AT A BAD TIME IN THEIR LIFE. TO JOIN A CULT. YEAH ARCHEOLOGY FINDS MY ASSHOLE. POST THEM!!! because i guarantee they will all be pure bullshit. What miracle's are you talking about? Name one just one. And I will discredit that shit with facts right now. You claim a bunch of shit with nothing to support yourself. And unless you can read Hebrew you have no fucking idea what the Bible really says you can only hope that the multiple interpretations of the Bible with many INCOMPATIBLE Languages before the first English interpretations ever existed.
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
What if their are no aliens and no god either is just as plausible question that you should probably ask yourself.
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Because I've seen it with my own eyes. I don't need faith when I have fact
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
G-d is G-d of the entire universe. So i believe if there any succesful other life forms out there, they believe in G-d, and if they are so advanced they must be helpers of G-d. But it's a bit crazy to think about it
 Quoting: 589


Yeah but god could just be a driving cosmic energy that regulates creation and formation. A automatic system. Creation/destruction then back to creation. It may not actually be a sentient being.
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Automated systems dont create anything they just do as they are commanded though
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
Fallen angels and angels were created as a static number. The only increase noted in the past was when they were having children.
They would have been the makers of all the ancient monuments we have and the destruction would have been part of the flood. The universe should have many such cities that will be abandoned when mankind gets there as all angelic beings will have moved to a new perfected heaven when they can can be given in marriage.
Adam was the first created man. The other beings in Ge:1 were modeled after these beasts and any remains of man is the remains of primates, beasts of the field with the faces of men.

Re:4:7:
And the first beast was like a lion,
and the second beast like a calf,
and the third beast had a face as a man,
and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger

Not to be rude but your not answering my question.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71509144

The question was about aliens being the seed for life on earth. The 4 beasts I mentioned are the seed that was used for all life except mankind.

And the dumbfounded idea that aliens are fallen angels. You would have to interpret the Bible as completely literal.
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I do and it works out quite well.

1Co:4:20:
For the kingdom of God is not in word,
but in power.


Which would make no sense and preachers wouldn't be necessary to INTERPRET THE BIBLE.
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They aren't, all the flock needs is copies of the 1611KJV to be published. The flock talking between themselves.

it's nothing more then a a desperate attempt of faith to make up any excuse you can to continue to convince yourself that your faith is 100% uncorruptible.
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That would be the mandate of the Churches, I'm classified as a 'gentle reader' in the 1611KJV preface. A little bit of info here and there and eventually the correct picture emerges. This earth is a seed bank for life to start of the new earth when mankind is immortal and the universe is the new earth

We know now that magic is the stuff of fairytales and science continues to reign supreme.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71509144

The Bible reads better if you use a 21 Century mind and look at the Bible in that respect. One example is the old earth creation theory which allows for the earth to be 4B years old when it experienced it's first sunrise/sunset due to light being created.

If aliens exist that means your entire belief system would be removed entirely or you could go into phycological denial.
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The RCC should be in denial over the beloved Disciple being a woman that meant more to Jesus than the Apostles did. The Jewish version crumbles when the 10 Commandments are parked and the dating that was around when Adam was created. The 10 Commandments are for a sinful earth and they are the law during the time it takes to complete all things associated with two bruises from Ge:3:15

I don't try to suck people away from their decision to believe in anything. But personally I do believe in complex life, more evolved then humans. The only reason I believe it, is because of the hundreds of sighting I've encountered in the past 15 years. In my experience this is fact. If I seen god or an angel or anything of the sort then things may be different.
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From the time of 70AD (Luke:21:24) and the start of the time of the Gentiles until the last 42 months as given in Re:11. The two witnesses will have powers like Moses and Aaron has so that last 3 1/2 year period will be when proof will again be visible. Prayers for safety will be answered for people who are repented Gentiles. That is why no proof of God's activities will be found.

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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
What if their are no aliens and no god either is just as plausible question that you should probably ask yourself.
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Because I've seen it with my own eyes. I don't need faith when I have fact
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It is a very vague answer do you mean god or aliens or are you just an internet crazy we can ignore.
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
What if in fact aliens exist and are the driving force of our evolution. What if the Bible like many ancient accounts on history, mistaken these beings as God's? How would you feel if your entire belief system was proven to be an inflation of truth from lack of understanding advanced tech. And life on other planets.
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
The theme of your thread is, "What if". That accomplishes nothing. "What if's" are just other variables that have already been considered or variables that may not even exist.

A hardcore Bible believer can toss that back at you. What if aliens aren't real? What if evolution isn't real? What if the Big Bang isn't real? All of these are valid questions as none of them have been proven. The last two are theories that we have put in a category of, "Most likely happened" rather than, "We know for a fact this is what happened".
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
What if in fact aliens exist and are the driving force of our evolution. What if the Bible like many ancient accounts on history, mistaken these beings as God's? How would you feel if your entire belief system was proven to be an inflation of truth from lack of understanding advanced tech. And life on other planets.
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Gen 1 says in Hebrw and Greek transliteration to English "In a Beginning created Gods the heaven and Earth. So The Gods of the Heaven would be alien. Jesus or Yahoshua came from Heaven so he would have been an alien.
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Re: Dear all congregations of the Bible I have a question.
What if in fact aliens exist and are the driving force of our evolution. What if the Bible like many ancient accounts on history, mistaken these beings as God's? How would you feel if your entire belief system was proven to be an inflation of truth from lack of understanding advanced tech. And life on other planets.
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lazyskate Don't worry about us we are safe in the arms of the Lord. Worry about yourself because your the one who is in trouble.

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If an iceage climate made the desert belt green and the age lasted 360,000 years mankind probably could lean to co-operate rather than be in a constant battle for a few resources like we have in these days. More food would mean we could become much larger just like every other creature that has unlimited food and zero enemies.

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