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Societal Importance of Marriage

 
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Happened upon this article. [link to thefederalist.com (secure)]

"Millennials Are Sympathetic to Traditional Gender Roles
What’s clearly not wishful thinking—in fact Kei Kawashima-Ginsberg, Joanna Pepin, David Cotter, the authors of the studies, are not at all pleased by their findings—is the news that only a small minority of millennial voters are feminists, and that, reversing a long-term trend, millennials are more likely than their elders to believe that men and women are “inherently” suited to particular tasks involved in family life." (Less than 50%)

Which lead to this study; [link to stateofourunions.org]

"IN MIDDLE AMERICA, MARRIAGE IS IN TROUBLE. Among the affluent, marriage is stable and may even be getting stronger. Among the poor, marriage continues to be fragile and weak. But the most consequential marriage trend of our time concerns the broad center of our society, where marriage, that iconic middle-class institution, is foundering."

"The retreat from marriage in Middle America cuts deeply into the nation’s hopes and dreams as well. For if marriage is increasingly unachievable for our moderately educated citizens—a group that represents 58 percent of the adult population (age 25–60)[4]—then it is likely that we will witness the emergence of a new society. For a substantial share of the United States, economic mobility will be out of reach, their children’s life chances will diminish, and large numbers of young men will live apart from the civilizing power of married life.

This retreat is also troubling because highly educated Americans (defined here as having at least a bachelor’s degree) have in recent years been largely unaffected by the tidal wave of family change that first hit the poor in the 1960s and has since moved higher into Middle America. Indeed, highly educated Americans, who make up 30 percent of the adult population, now enjoy marriages that are as stable and happy as those four decades ago. There is thus a growing “marriage gap” between moderately and highly educated America.[5] This means that more affluent Americans are now doubly privileged in comparison to their moderately educated fellow citizens—by their superior socioeconomic resources and by their stable family lives.

So the United States is increasingly a separate and unequal nation when it comes to the institution of marriage. Marriage is in danger of becoming a luxury good attainable only to those with the material and cultural means to grab hold of it. The marginalization of marriage in Middle America is especially worrisome, because this institution has long served the American experiment in democracy as an engine of the American Dream, a seedbed of virtue for children, and one of the few sources of social solidarity in a nation that otherwise prizes individual liberty.[6]" (Less than 50%). [Bolded sections chosen by me]

Immediately I reflected on the often pervasive marriage bashing posts found here; along with the seeming desire to see more traditional gender roles and thought this could be food for thought & reflection & an interesting discussion.

Last Edited by ThereRMeds4That on 07/18/2017 05:56 PM
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Alright GLP'ers what say you?

Do you see this reflected in the people you know, higher wealth increases marriage success?

What came first; did lack of economic stability increase marital failure or does marital failure increase economic instability?
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The impact of these cultural forces on marriage in Middle America has been augmented and abetted by the rise in recent years of a new model of what marriage should be. Over the last four decades, many Americans have moved away from identifying with an “institutional” model of marriage, which seeks to integrate sex, parenthood, economic cooperation, and emotional intimacy in a permanent union. This model has been overwritten by the “soul mate” model, which sees marriage as primarily a couple-centered vehicle for personal growth, emotional intimacy, and shared consumption that depends for its survival on the happiness of both spouses.[11] Thus where marriage used to serve as the gateway to responsible adulthood, it has come to be increasingly seen as a capstone of sorts that signals couples have arrived, both financially and emotionally—or are on the cusp of arriving.[12]

Although this newer model of marriage—and the new norms associated with it—has affected all Americans, it poses unique challenges to poor and Middle American adults. One problem with this newer model—which sets a high financial and emotional bar for marriage—is that many poor and Middle American couples now believe that they do not have the requisite emotional and economic resources to get or stay married. By contrast, poor and Middle Americans of a generation or two ago would have identified with the institutional model of marriage and been markedly more likely to get and stay married, even if they did not have much money or a consistently good relationship. They made do.[13]

From [link to stateofourunions.org] (Less than 50%, highlights are mine)
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Alright GLP'ers what say you?

Do you see this reflected in the people you know, higher wealth increases marriage success?

What came first; did lack of economic stability increase marital failure or does marital failure increase economic instability?
 Quoting: ThereRMeds4That


Marital instability came from cyclical childhood sexual trauma coupled with alcohol, drug abuse and the Jeuuish promotion of loosened sexual mores and destabilization of traditional Christian values.

With these abuses came economic instability as people shucked responsibility in favor of "feel good" philosophies and quick-and-easy solutions to adulthood.

Corporate meddling in public education to produce mindless worker drones willing to accept minimum wages and no medical benefits make all of our societal problems virtually unsolvable.
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Alright GLP'ers what say you?

Do you see this reflected in the people you know, higher wealth increases marriage success?

What came first; did lack of economic stability increase marital failure or does marital failure increase economic instability?
 Quoting: ThereRMeds4That


Marital instability came from cyclical childhood sexual trauma coupled with alcohol, drug abuse and the Jeuuish promotion of loosened sexual mores and destabilization of traditional Christian values.

With these abuses came economic instability as people shucked responsibility in favor of "feel good" philosophies and quick-and-easy solutions to adulthood.

Corporate meddling in public education to produce mindless worker drones willing to accept minimum wages and no medical benefits make all of our societal problems virtually unsolvable.
 Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om


Virtually unsolvable? You really think so?
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Virtually unsolvable? You really think so?
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Nobody wants to talk about the root issues.

It's verboten.

For example, the root of almost all of the evil: Alcohol.

Yep.

Animal fathers get drunk and decide it's a good idea to molest their daughters.

Daughters grow up to marry Alcoholic child molesters and the cycle spreads exponentially with each passing generation.

Or it's physical/verbal abuse and THAT cycle continues or worse, gets shuffled into the other for a trifecta.

Now show these people movies about divorce and how cool it is to get a divorce because all your friends are doing it and hey, God is dead so he won't mind, and you're not cool if you're not divorced.

How do you undo this influence and this level of deceptive programming?

How do you tell THIS SOCIETY to go back to hardcore Christian values?

To get rid of their booze
To get rid of their pot
To be of sober and sound mind
To make a vow and keep it
To raise your children with love and kindness but also discipline and value?

How do you tell THIS SOCIETY to get rid of the Jeuus who are pushing their corruption on them unawares? "But then we'll be like Hitler!" they'll cry. "Coexist!" they'll cry.

How do you tell THIS SOCIETY to stop working for free? To literally go on massive work strike until benefits and living wage are restored to alleviate the stress and detrimental health of constantly worrying how you're going to pay a simple bill?

How do you tell THIS SOCIETY that their hard-earned college degrees are indoctrination bullshit?

on and on

It's too deep

Gotta wipe the slate clean, it's the only way.
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Alright GLP'ers what say you?

Do you see this reflected in the people you know, higher wealth increases marriage success?

What came first; did lack of economic stability increase marital failure or does marital failure increase economic instability?
 Quoting: ThereRMeds4That


Johnny Depp was married and he lost 50% of his shit.

Divorce courts don't care what social class a man is from, they WILL rape the money out of him. Lawyers, judges, and cops need to get paid, doncha know.
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Marriage is a death sentence!
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Virtually unsolvable? You really think so?
 Quoting: ThereRMeds4That


Nobody wants to talk about the root issues.

It's verboten.

For example, the root of almost all of the evil: Alcohol.

Yep.

Animal fathers get drunk and decide it's a good idea to molest their daughters.

Daughters grow up to marry Alcoholic child molesters and the cycle spreads exponentially with each passing generation.

Or it's physical/verbal abuse and THAT cycle continues or worse, gets shuffled into the other for a trifecta.

Now show these people movies about divorce and how cool it is to get a divorce because all your friends are doing it and hey, God is dead so he won't mind, and you're not cool if you're not divorced.

How do you undo this influence and this level of deceptive programming?

How do you tell THIS SOCIETY to go back to hardcore Christian values?

To get rid of their booze
To get rid of their pot
To be of sober and sound mind
To make a vow and keep it
To raise your children with love and kindness but also discipline and value?

How do you tell THIS SOCIETY to get rid of the Jeuus who are pushing their corruption on them unawares? "But then we'll be like Hitler!" they'll cry. "Coexist!" they'll cry.

How do you tell THIS SOCIETY to stop working for free? To literally go on massive work strike until benefits and living wage are restored to alleviate the stress and detrimental health of constantly worrying how you're going to pay a simple bill?

How do you tell THIS SOCIETY that their hard-earned college degrees are indoctrination bullshit?

on and on

It's too deep

Gotta wipe the slate clean, it's the only way.
 Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om


Bullshit.

Men have ALL the responsibility and none of the benefits.

Women initiate 70% of divorces due to things like no-fault divorce and abortion.

Women are more likely to cheat than men.

Only a man who is a suicidal idiot gets married in this day and age.
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Virtually unsolvable? You really think so?
 Quoting: ThereRMeds4That


Nobody wants to talk about the root issues.

It's verboten.

For example, the root of almost all of the evil: Alcohol.

Yep.

Animal fathers get drunk and decide it's a good idea to molest their daughters.

Daughters grow up to marry Alcoholic child molesters and the cycle spreads exponentially with each passing generation.

Or it's physical/verbal abuse and THAT cycle continues or worse, gets shuffled into the other for a trifecta.

Now show these people movies about divorce and how cool it is to get a divorce because all your friends are doing it and hey, God is dead so he won't mind, and you're not cool if you're not divorced.

How do you undo this influence and this level of deceptive programming?

How do you tell THIS SOCIETY to go back to hardcore Christian values?

To get rid of their booze
To get rid of their pot
To be of sober and sound mind
To make a vow and keep it
To raise your children with love and kindness but also discipline and value?

How do you tell THIS SOCIETY to get rid of the Jeuus who are pushing their corruption on them unawares? "But then we'll be like Hitler!" they'll cry. "Coexist!" they'll cry.

How do you tell THIS SOCIETY to stop working for free? To literally go on massive work strike until benefits and living wage are restored to alleviate the stress and detrimental health of constantly worrying how you're going to pay a simple bill?

How do you tell THIS SOCIETY that their hard-earned college degrees are indoctrination bullshit?

on and on

It's too deep

Gotta wipe the slate clean, it's the only way.
 Quoting: Jai_Guru_Jesus_Om


Woman date the "bad boys" then they (falsely) assume all men are bad boys.

The problem isn't men, it's that your example woman chose the wrong man and now she doesn't want to take responsibility for her mistake.
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Wow, you guys totally missed the point in order to bag on women.

Wow.

Just wow @ reading comprehension.

This is why things can't be fixed.
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