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Why are we so far in debt? Why is it so hard to repeal obamacare? THEORY INSIDE.

 
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Our space exploration was considered infantile, we weren't a threat. Cern, however is an enormous beacon that goes into deep space- signal wise, and we were noticed.
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Re: Why are we so far in debt? Why is it so hard to repeal obamacare? THEORY INSIDE.
Our currency is debt backed by design. Tthats why we are in debt. Change that and all the other stuff you point out is self correcting


Here is a working theory as to why we are so screwed as a country and why nothing worthwhile is getting done even with Trump in office.

I have no link to provide and no solid evidence on my theory - it just a feeling I have after connecting the dots on a great many things that slip under the radar. So here goes.

Have you ever asked yourself why it's been so hard to get a simple repeal of obamacare as promised with a republican senate/house/and president and why this nation is so far in debt and congress keeps spending like there is no tomorrow? Maybe there is in fact no tomorrow.

This is what I mean. My working theory is that the powers that be have pissed away America's fortune on underground bunkers and preparations for a global event of biblical proportion.

Planet X? Inbound asteroid? Who knows? We don't, but they do and they have been preparing for it, planning to scurry underground and leave us to tough it out on the surface.

It is a well known fact that billions of dollars were reported missing from the defense budget just a few days before 9/11 which made us in a sense watch the "other hand" and forget all about the missing money. We were distracted with a national tragedy and the missing money was forgotten. I believe they have been preparing for a while and have known for a while that something wicked this way comes.

And the debt since then has skyrocketed and just keeps growing and growing. That's why the government is spending and not worrying about paying it back- they just have to keep playing musical chairs until the music stops for the rest of us.

Now this got me to thinking about the repeal of obamacare - why has that been so hard to accomplish. You would think that would be fairly simple now with Trump in office. Ready for the simple reason? It's a theory, but it fits with the rest of my suspicions and makes perfect sense.

Democrats and republicans both WANT TO KEEP obamacare - why? Because it has pages of laws that have nothing to do about healthcare and everything to do about control.

Control in the event of a national disaster, a global event maybe that they know is coming? That's why they are stalling to repeal I think because they want to keep the laws in place that will control the cattle.

Last question- why aren't the republicans worried about the wrath of their constituents next election cycle who will vote them out for lies and broken campaign promises of repealing obamacare?

It's simple really, my theory would suppose that whatever event is on the horizon will occur sometime before that next election cycle, so they are not worried about reelection because they know there will be no next election, the event will come first.

This is the same reason they are not concerned with the national debt, they know the event will come and they will scurry to their bunkers without worry of paying anything back.

This theory may or may not be true but someone please tell me why it does not make perfect sense.
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Op, seeding is not a theory. I have learned a lot just from the soldier who accepts our deliveries at the NC base. You guys have no idea how bad things are about to get. This base is underground. I obviously can not disclose where it is.
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Op, seeding is not a theory. I have learned a lot just from the soldier who accepts our deliveries at the NC base. You guys have no idea how bad things are about to get. This base is underground. I obviously can not disclose where it is.
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Well it is, inasmuch as disclosure has not been made to the general public, so if it is true, it is only true to a select few, to the rest of us it is theory.
Also, of course there is an alternate explanation to those of us of the faith, such as nephelim or embodied evil spirits. But in a sense it is all theory until proven by hard facts to the general public.

Nevertheless, let me not split hairs, but let's continue the narrative and advance it a bit more because it is very interesting.

So is it "good" aliens that seeded us and "bad" aliens that want to destroy us? Or are the aliens that claim to have seeded us now wanting to destroy us? In other words, who are the players?

Why is Yellowstone specifically NOT involved in this event? If it is a volcanic event on the horizon why would Yellowstone NOT erupt?

Also what is the nature of the weapon in NC- how was it intended to protect us? What is it's relationship to CERN? What did they hope to accomplish with CERN?

I hope you return AC, things are just starting to get interesting.

And how did you determine the sept 27 date? What exactly is supposed to occur then?
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I will explain nothing else op, your dogma has closed your mind. I can not help you.
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Anyone actually open to surviving, i passed on the advice i was given earlier in the thread. I highly recommend taking it.
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I will explain nothing else op, your dogma has closed your mind. I can not help you.
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I'm sorry you feel that way AC, I did not feel I was being dogmatic about anything. Perhaps the other poster was right about you earlier in the thread, perhaps you have been trolling all along.

You have your opinions/beliefs and I have mine, am I not entitled to that?
My mind has always been open to anything if I can be proven wrong about what I currently believe. So far you have proven nothing to no one here.

You have offered your narrative of what you say is going down, but with no links or no other proof of what you say other than you say it.

Do you really expect everyone to so quickly believe what you have to say AC, just because you say it?

Everyone in GLP knows all the "uncle intel" that is all bs on this site, so pardon me for not immediately giving your information full credibility.

I started this thread with a "theory" based upon the facts I know.
I offered no proof, but was up front that it was a theory.

You on the other hand offer what you say are facts, and the discussion is appreciated, but you should not be so offended when someone doesn't immediately mindlessly accept your information. We here on GLP are known to question everything.

You are most welcome to resume posting, and I hope you do, you still never answered several of my questions. But if you choose not to, thank you for participating in this thread anyway, your additions were interesting.
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Links to your "facts" are where op? I'm risking my job trying to help people OP.
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I emplore you ,OP- look up barium-bismuth oxide collar. It will save your life when every nuke reactor out thete melts down. Instead of ranting, go right now and look it up. You seem like an emotional female not willing to meet me halfway.
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I am not going to "link" to first hand advice i received at a deep underground military base delivery site, i'm not suicidal.
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Don't believe what i say- just store it away in the back of your mind so you might survive- just trying to help.
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Links to your "facts" are where op? I'm risking my job trying to help people OP.
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I said mine was a working theory up front without facts to support it.
My facts are we are so deep in debt that we can not possibly repay it, but that's ok because no one cares anyway.
The fact is we voted in the liar republicans to get rid of the abominationcare, but they don't care about getting rid of it or thier reelection. Just trying to make sense of these things.
These facts are self evident, like saying grass is green or the sky is blue- don't need any link or further evidence to back up a self evident fact.

As far as your job, don't do anything to risk it, although if what you say is true, your job won't matter in a couple of months either unless you are going underground with them.
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I emplore you ,OP- look up barium-bismuth oxide collar. It will save your life when every nuke reactor out thete melts down. Instead of ranting, go right now and look it up. You seem like an emotional female not willing to meet me halfway.
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Wrong on both accounts, all male, a mountain man. Not emotional at all, well educated and logical.

Wondering how you went from vulcanism with the exception of Yellowstone, which you still have not explained, to nuclear reactors now.

You are giving differing threats without really connecting the dots. As far as the barium-bismuth oxide collar, appreciate the advice, and maybe the youngsters on here may need it, but as for me, I've worked hard all my life, physical labor, my body is starting to age and break down, so when death comes, it will be a welcome relief, I'm not at all afraid of it, or under any delusion that I will survive.
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I am not going to "link" to first hand advice i received at a deep underground military base delivery site, i'm not suicidal.
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Not at all asking you to. Simply trying to offer you an explanation as to my healthy skepticism. You were the one who initiated all if this by challenging my open mindedness and calling me dogmatic.
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Don't believe what i say- just store it away in the back of your mind so you might survive- just trying to help.
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I do appreciate your info and I am taking it in and storing it away.
I still do have more questions about the players (aliens), the weapon, CERN and Yellowstone.

But if you don't feel comfortable answering them or are not at liberty to say I understand, feel free to post and add whatever you feel comfortable saying to the discussion.
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Re: Why are we so far in debt? Why is it so hard to repeal obamacare? THEORY INSIDE.
First if all sorry to some of you reading - I always try to indicate that I am the OP, but I am on a mobile and in the country and if I lose service my ip changes, which happens from time to time. I was writing replys so fast earlier to the AC that I forgot to indicate who I was - but I trust you all figured it out.

Second, for those of you that have been following this thread you know by now that I am an early riser and it's about time for me to hit the sack- so I'll check back in on this thread again tomorrow.

Keep posting, it has become a very interesting discussion.
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Around 1913 something funny happened
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Around 1913 something funny happened
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Astral Goat, do you mean the establishment of the fed?
I would agree ultimately that's what launched us down this road, but what makes no sense is why we stay on it when we know the bridge is out up ahead and we can't continue on it forever without going off a cliff.

Also, I guess the AC from earlier had no more to add, was just dangling carrots from the beginning, or was silenced by his bunker masters.
Sorry to see you not return AC, you were indeed interesting to say the least.
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The simplest fix would be to add a 1/2 cent Federal Sales Tax and then offer to buy into Medicaid at a reasonable rate if you're above the income requirements.

No mandate. Private insurance remains. Rates go down. Only Medicaid will cover pre-existing.

Just an idea
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The simplest fix would be to add a 1/2 cent Federal Sales Tax and then offer to buy into Medicaid at a reasonable rate if you're above the income requirements.

No mandate. Private insurance remains. Rates go down. Only Medicaid will cover pre-existing.

Just an idea
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I would concur with that idea, it makes common sense.
Now why common sense is never to be found in Washington is beyond me.

Of course a 1/2 cent federal sales tax gets a foot in the door to be increased to 1 cent, then 5 then 10 etc etc ad infinitum.

I'm not opposed to a federal sales tax (consumption tax) or a flat rate fair tax with no exemptions, but they need to abolish the irs first and it's pages and pages of loopholes otherwise we will have an income tax AND a sales tax both of which could go up.

But that's a whole other subject I guess.
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The simplest fix would be to add a 1/2 cent Federal Sales Tax and then offer to buy into Medicaid at a reasonable rate if you're above the income requirements.

No mandate. Private insurance remains. Rates go down. Only Medicaid will cover pre-existing.

Just an idea
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I would concur with that idea, it makes common sense.
Now why common sense is never to be found in Washington is beyond me.

Of course a 1/2 cent federal sales tax gets a foot in the door to be increased to 1 cent, then 5 then 10 etc etc ad infinitum.

I'm not opposed to a federal sales tax (consumption tax) or a flat rate fair tax with no exemptions, but they need to abolish the irs first and it's pages and pages of loopholes otherwise we will have an income tax AND a sales tax both of which could go up.

But that's a whole other subject I guess.
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Since my wife and I have a baby now, our Federal Poverty Level is $29,000 or so.... But, they made it in Florida it's FPL * 1.38 it's just a little over $40,000 combined. We do not make that. Ever since getting Medicaid... We save so much money. Medications are paid for. We're reaching middle age so blood tests are done, real physical examinations.... That we could not due without insurance.


It reminds me of how a drunkard in 1961 stood before a Judge in Florida and said "The United States Constitution says I receive an attorney." The Judge apologized, and said it only applies to special circumstances or capital crimes.


The last line of his hand written appeal to supreme Court and now on his tombstone

"Each era finds an improvement in law for the benefit of mankind."

Supreme Court ruled 9/0 that everyone had right to legal representation... And that started the Public Defenders office and first half of.Gideon Marianda


.... It's the little people who ultimately change legal history, as Gideon, a drunk who loved to Gamble, made true.

Who's turn is it now to appeal petition for writ of certiorari and change healthcare in America.... Ourselves?
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The underlying systems (governmental and commercial) are broken and no longer economically viable. The changes needed to really "fix" healthcare are going to cause so much hardship on society (middle class and blue collar would bear the biggest brunt) that there would be chaos. Hence, they are going to let it crash and burn and play the blame game before determining an appropriate alternate path.
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So when Trump says "let it fail" avoiding the $3.50 posters who scream he's a NWO Puppet....

What's the end goal here? Obamacare implodes and the Dems beg for help?

Why hasn't it imploded yet?
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So when Trump says "let it fail" avoiding the $3.50 posters who scream he's a NWO Puppet....

What's the end goal here? Obamacare implodes and the Dems beg for help?

Why hasn't it imploded yet?
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The dems won't be begging for help, if anything in three more years the stupid sheeple American people will be begging for a dem in the White House if nothing gets done with trump and the liar republicans.

The end game, simply put, is single payer health care which sounds great if you can't afford health insurance, but anywhere it's been tried it leads to death panels- look at what has been going on with Charlie Gard in England as an example.

Of course we will get single payer insurance if I am wrong and we are all still here 3 years from now- but if you go back and reread my original post you'll see I think there is a darker reason for all the infighting and overspending that has nothing to do with party lines or healthcare.

Your signature says you are a new Christian. First of all congratulations and welcome to the family! Second of all, if you haven't visited this topic in the Bible yet, what I am suggesting is coming may coincide with what's coming in Revelation, like sixth seal type stuff.
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Will do OP. I'll read through the entire thread. Why don't you make a free account for karma reasons alone? And also, since you seem intelligent, I can follow your threads.
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Will do OP. I'll read through the entire thread. Why don't you make a free account for karma reasons alone? And also, since you seem intelligent, I can follow your threads.
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Thanks Intercessor, I appreciate the kind words. I've thought about making an account before, but I really don't post all that often, I'm more of a lurker and figure it's one more user name and password to try to remember lol.
But I'll keep it in mind :)





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