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Friends,
If anyone has a helpful suggestion, I would appreciate it!

Long story short: I have a 2 1/2 yr old cat w/UTI. Found this out after he quit using the litter box and I took him to the vet after July 4th week-end (just to let you know how long this has been going on).

In the meantime, he's now on his second round of antibiotics since he could still see evidence of infection. Also saw crystals in his urine on second blood test, He's talking about possibly surgery. Well, we'll see about that!

Well, while we're treating for the UTI, now he's still urinating everywhere - and I mean EVERYWHERE - except the litter box! So in self-defense, I put him in a dog crate - with a litter box when he wakes for about an hour so he HAS to use the litter box (and not my furniture/clothes/anywhere else he deems convenient).

So, my kitty friends, here's where I need your help:
Since putting him in the crate, I'm watching him trying, trying to urinate. He seems NOT able to "go" much now, and is meowing, as if in pain. I think he's trying to pass those pesky "crystals/stones!" All that's passing is a few drops at a time.

I'm wondering if it's necessary to take him back to the vet before his regular scheduled appointment (next week), or if anyone has a suggestion of something I can give him that will help him pass the crystals?

Thanks to those who will write to help. And to those who can't resist the urge to suggest I just make some "cat soup," save your strength.
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What is wrong with the cat?
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I suggest a 24 hour water fast.
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D-manose is very helpful.

But if the cat is straining right now...get him to the vet asap.

Good luck and let us know how things went.rockon
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he's got a bad UTI they only pee in different places

when the Infection is still active.

Hope it's not ecoli very difficult to kill

there is a herb for UTI's called Uva Ursi

I give it to my cats.

another herb very good at killing infections

but hard to find is angelica root.
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D-manose is very helpful.

But if the cat is straining right now...get him to the vet asap.

Good luck and let us know how things went.rockon
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depends on the type of infection


if it is ecoli it will send the pet to hell
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My cat got a UTI and couldn't urinate . I took him to the veterinarian and he had an operation and what ended up happening is that he no longer has a penis now and they just redid his plumbing so he pees like a girl but it did save his life. This is the life and death issue .
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My cat got a UTI and couldn't urinate . I took him to the veterinarian and he had an operation and what ended up happening is that he no longer has a penis now and they just redid his plumbing so he pees like a girl but it did save his life. This is the life and death issue .
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distilled water
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sorry about your cat. i don't have any short term advice (looks like you got some good advice so far) (the d-mannose sounds good but i'd google and make sure it is ok for cats)

but, longterm, my cats like this cat kibble called "wysong uretic". it's a kibble that supposedly helps with urinary problems.

i don't rely on kibble, but i leave a little out for snacks. the barf diet seems to be the best diet for dogs and cats if you can do it. my cats are about half transitioned to it. (bones and raw food). cats are so picky that it is really hard to change them! haha good luck.
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To be honest, just go ahead with the surgery. Male cats are prone to crystals because of the skinny urethra. They can die very quickly from it, don't wait. I had a male kitty with that problem and he almost died. He will not be able to pass them like we can.
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Friends,
If anyone has a helpful suggestion, I would appreciate it!

Long story short: I have a 2 1/2 yr old cat w/UTI. Found this out after he quit using the litter box and I took him to the vet after July 4th week-end (just to let you know how long this has been going on).

In the meantime, he's now on his second round of antibiotics since he could still see evidence of infection. Also saw crystals in his urine on second blood test, He's talking about possibly surgery. Well, we'll see about that!

Well, while we're treating for the UTI, now he's still urinating everywhere - and I mean EVERYWHERE - except the litter box! So in self-defense, I put him in a dog crate - with a litter box when he wakes for about an hour so he HAS to use the litter box (and not my furniture/clothes/anywhere else he deems convenient).

So, my kitty friends, here's where I need your help:
Since putting him in the crate, I'm watching him trying, trying to urinate. He seems NOT able to "go" much now, and is meowing, as if in pain. I think he's trying to pass those pesky "crystals/stones!" All that's passing is a few drops at a time.

I'm wondering if it's necessary to take him back to the vet before his regular scheduled appointment (next week), or if anyone has a suggestion of something I can give him that will help him pass the crystals?

Thanks to those who will write to help. And to those who can't resist the urge to suggest I just make some "cat soup," save your strength.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


Yes, he can die from the crystals blocking him. If he is struggling, don't wait!

Is he on a low magnesium food? Hills science diet CD is what you need. We have a cat with the same issue. IF we feed him anything but the CD food, the problem returns.

Science Diet SD should be the first round. IT helps dissolve the stones. Then switch to CD for maintenance.

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And then put him on a food low in ash and magnesium. That will help prevent the crystals in the future. Sorry about your kitty.
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Give him spicy food
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he's got a bad UTI they only pee in different places

when the Infection is still active.

Hope it's not ecoli very difficult to kill

there is a herb for UTI's called Uva Ursi

I give it to my cats.

another herb very good at killing infections

but hard to find is angelica root.
 Quoting: jake


OK, wasn't sure it was safe for cats.

THank you.
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Friends,
If anyone has a helpful suggestion, I would appreciate it!

Long story short: I have a 2 1/2 yr old cat w/UTI. Found this out after he quit using the litter box and I took him to the vet after July 4th week-end (just to let you know how long this has been going on).

In the meantime, he's now on his second round of antibiotics since he could still see evidence of infection. Also saw crystals in his urine on second blood test, He's talking about possibly surgery. Well, we'll see about that!

Well, while we're treating for the UTI, now he's still urinating everywhere - and I mean EVERYWHERE - except the litter box! So in self-defense, I put him in a dog crate - with a litter box when he wakes for about an hour so he HAS to use the litter box (and not my furniture/clothes/anywhere else he deems convenient).

So, my kitty friends, here's where I need your help:
Since putting him in the crate, I'm watching him trying, trying to urinate. He seems NOT able to "go" much now, and is meowing, as if in pain. I think he's trying to pass those pesky "crystals/stones!" All that's passing is a few drops at a time.

I'm wondering if it's necessary to take him back to the vet before his regular scheduled appointment (next week), or if anyone has a suggestion of something I can give him that will help him pass the crystals?

Thanks to those who will write to help. And to those who can't resist the urge to suggest I just make some "cat soup," save your strength.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


Yes, he can die from the crystals blocking him. If he is struggling, don't wait!

Is he on a low magnesium food? Hills science diet CD is what you need. We have a cat with the same issue. IF we feed him anything but the CD food, the problem returns.

Science Diet SD should be the first round. IT helps dissolve the stones. Then switch to CD for maintenance.
 Quoting: The Rickest Rick Sanchez


tbh, Rick and ac, I'm NOT a big fan of Science Diet. It's made by Monsanto, you know?

Anyway, I'll try it, if it makes my little guy better, tho.
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Sounds like he is a low squatter. Get his uti lined out and change to corn or newspaper based litter.
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UTI blockages are common in male cats due to diet alone( specifically dry kibble with non meat ingredients), pure meat eaters have a hard time digesting anything but meat. If it's totally blocked it can be fatal( sound like its urinating so good). I worked at a vet hospital in the late 80's early 90's, AFTER the blockage has been addressed you will need to change the brand of
dry kibble you feed him, as someone stated above they now make a dry kibble exclusively for this, you will need to give him a high acidic canned food daily for a couple weeks usual the liver kidney mix of chicken or beef is what the Vet would recommend, then once its better at least 2 times a week for the canned product.
good luck
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Feed him Royal Canin Urinary SO for cats will help dissolve stones, the vet needs to give you a prescription for it. Make sure he is drinking enough and give him a little apple cider vinegar. If he isn't urinating you will need to take him back to the vet asap.
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only bottled water, never tap water. Milk thistle is good for the liver and kidneys. I have been giving it to my dog and he is 18yrs old. Can animals eat cranberries? if so cranberry is good for UTI's.
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he's got a bad UTI they only pee in different places

when the Infection is still active.

Hope it's not ecoli very difficult to kill

there is a herb for UTI's called Uva Ursi

I give it to my cats.

another herb very good at killing infections

but hard to find is angelica root.
 Quoting: jake


OK, wasn't sure it was safe for cats.

THank you.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


been giving it to my cats for years

wont hurt them hide in wet cat food
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UTI blockages are common in male cats due to diet alone( specifically dry kibble with non meat ingredients), pure meat eaters have a hard time digesting anything but meat. If it's totally blocked it can be fatal( sound like its urinating so good). I worked at a vet hospital in the late 80's early 90's, AFTER the blockage has been addressed you will need to change the brand of
dry kibble you feed him, as someone stated above they now make a dry kibble exclusively for this, you will need to give him a high acidic canned food daily for a couple weeks usual the liver kidney mix of chicken or beef is what the Vet would recommend, then once its better at least 2 times a week for the canned product.
good luck
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I meant to address this, too. My cats are VERY finicky, and DO NOT like "wet" food, such as canned. It would sit and sit and dry out and turn to crust before they'd touch it! I will have to look into the specific dry kibble suggested, tho.

BTW - he has an appointment to see the vet this afternoon (soonest they could fit him in). I wasn't thinking it was a good idea to feed him (HOPING he doesn't need emergency surgery....), but he seems to have settled down since I gave him something. It's a "gravy" thing? I have a few packages of it left from an OLD, OLD cat we had who died a few months back. It's very expensive, so I don't want to have to make it a permanent food (there are 6 cats here!), but I gave it to him as a treat, and I'm glad he ate it. He literally licked the bowl so clean you could use it again! I guess he was hungry! I hope he doesn't need surgery later, as I probably shouldn't have fed him, but he seemed so pitiful, and I knew he hadn't eaten. Gave himself a bath and sleeping now. At least he's not straining to go for awhile now.
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he's got a bad UTI they only pee in different places

when the Infection is still active.

Hope it's not ecoli very difficult to kill

there is a herb for UTI's called Uva Ursi

I give it to my cats.

another herb very good at killing infections

but hard to find is angelica root.
 Quoting: jake


OK, wasn't sure it was safe for cats.

THank you.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


been giving it to my cats for years

wont hurt them hide in wet cat food
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Jake, found this on Amazon:
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Been there before OP, cat had to have surgery to remove uroliths as they were blocking his urethra, they're like grains of sand. he was put on urinary SO food, and after 3 years he had an episode of UTI and xray showed the damn crystals again, switched him to Hills CD stress food and it dissolved the crystals, so try him on the CD stress food (chewy.com) and hopefully you won't have to get surgery, and don't feed anything but the CD stress as ant other food or treats can cause crystals.

Good luck
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I had the same problem.

First, I used NOW product for UTI's for pets. I used 1/4 pill dissolved in filtered hot water and added to wet food.

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Second, I took away all dry food. I would serve my cat about several times a week, canned in water tuna. I would add additional water and the dissolved UTI pill.

Also fed my cat paté grain free foods stirred in ample water.

Third, cleaned floors even tiled floors. And put down Nature's miracle and let dry. And put new styled kitty litter boxes out.

Fourth, this is very important. These are my new styled kitty litter boxes. I put cut down boxes with no more than one cup of kitty litter. My cat used these boxes with about two inch sides. My cat must have disliked the deep kitty litter in boxes. My cat must have disliked the plastic liner I used in the deep kitty litter boxes as well. I have these boxes in my laundry room, two bathrooms and on patio. After one or two urine uses, just throw the box away. The cat uses these boxes.

Fifth, we have a porcelain multi tiered drinking fountain that is filled with filtered refrigerator water. My animals do not like the reverse osmosis filtered water. It hold nearly a gallon of water. The plastic ones smell. Yes, these are pricey but I have had mine 5 years. The cat drinks from it, I happy about that. [link to www.chewy.com (secure)]

UTI in cats have to do with the PH of their urine, too much dry food & not enough water. Their urine needs to be slightly acidic. Adding about 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda to their drinking water will help as well.
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D-manose is very helpful.

But if the cat is straining right now...get him to the vet asap.

Good luck and let us know how things went.rockon
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