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"Scientists have now obtained and analyzed the genome of ancient Mycenaean people and found they are strongly related to modern Greeks.

Digging further back into the genome, the Mycenaeans were also shown to be related to the Minoans, a Bronze Age civilization on the island of Crete, which flourished before Mycenaea. The Minoans have often been declared the first proper civilization of Europe, who led the way for the Mycenaeans to enter mainland Greece and eventually become the famed Classical Greeks.

This trail of genetics doesn’t end just there. Around three-quarters of the Mycenaeans' and Minoans' ancestry originated in Anatolia, present-day Turkey. The remaining quarter can be traced back to the Caucasus, near modern-day Iran. Modern Greeks, in turn, can trace their ancestry back to here.

"Minoans, Mycenaeans, and modern Greeks also had some ancestry related to the ancient people of the Caucasus, Armenia, and Iran. This finding suggests that some migration occurred in the Aegean and southwestern Anatolia from the further east after the time of the earliest farmers," lead author Iosif Lazaridis said in a statement."

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It was told by the Sumerians themselves that they traded with the Kingdom of Aratta before Sumeria blossomed into a full fledged civilization. It's clear that Aratta was a predecesor of Sumer. Then we have the Minoans who were the predecessors to the Greeks coming from the same Anatolian root as these Arattans. The Greeks being the predecessors of the modern day western civilization we form part of. If you really follow the thread to the beginning, civilization in the west has come from the same line of people who were most likely themselves survivors of a pre flood civilization that already existed since who knows how much earlier.
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makes sense.thing is,gobleki was probably either the first lab for creation or the lab for a revamp of creation.as most species started out in the stan region.making it the eden center,which root word is An/god.
after dietary demands then started changing mans form through enzymes.of the animals they consumed in their locals.thus some mainly consumed pigs,so upturned nose,some rats,thus downturned and long noses.chimps,thus chimplike facial features.all because of the need to eat and babies of that species were more easily caught.baby animals being the strongest enzymes available for changes in mammalian transformation.
sprouted seeds being second.so sprouted coconuts created giants of species.
so big dinosaurs came from eating sprouted coconuts or eating animal offspring of sprouted coconut eating species.
greek people may be the most closely pure because of their grain intake and lack of meat eating.having the highest safe and reliable food resources throughout history.thus less dietary demand for meat.
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while the minoan greek connexion is understood, the context is misunderstood. we Europeans are all related enjoying a common two roots. the first is the source of european migration from asia, being from the caspian sea India area, the second being basque from North Africa and Spain, the survivors of Atlantis.

As for the you become what you eat theory, very funny.
However if you eat poor food it will make you poorly.

All humans are related like it or not.
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So bascially Greeks aren't white and Greeks are the rightful owners of Turkey.
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So bascially Greeks aren't white and Greeks are the rightful owners of Turkey.
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No, Greeks are Mediterranean Whites, not Nordic. The ancients themselves have given hints about that anyway through their art and literature. But this won't be for much more since the influx of illegal immigrants from all around the world into the EU will destroy the natives.
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As for the Gobekli Tepe, these people worshiped the Bull and you can see in Minoan civilization the worship of Bull too. Of course the Myceneans have abolished the worship of the Bull and have adopted to worshiping human-like Gods.
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I knew it!

I could have told you all this even without the DNA study.
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So bascially Greeks aren't white and Greeks are the rightful owners of Turkey.
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No, Greeks are Mediterranean Whites, not Nordic. The ancients themselves have given hints about that anyway through their art and literature. But this won't be for much more since the influx of illegal immigrants from all around the world into the EU will destroy the natives.
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Not anymore, but Greeks in the distant past WERE Nordic.

Blue eyed whites originated on the Black Sea and spread throughout Europe, creating the great civilizations.
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So bascially Greeks aren't white and Greeks are the rightful owners of Turkey.
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No, Greeks are Mediterranean Whites, not Nordic. The ancients themselves have given hints about that anyway through their art and literature. But this won't be for much more since the influx of illegal immigrants from all around the world into the EU will destroy the natives.
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Not anymore, but Greeks in the distant past WERE Nordic.

Blue eyed whites originated on the Black Sea and spread throughout Europe, creating the great civilizations.
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Actually no. Themselves described as not very white as in the north and not black as in the south. They had mostly brown eyes that you can see even today in both frescoes and in statues like the Iniochos ( [link to www.amforeas.gr] ). Stop claiming every civilization that you actually never had any contact before the late antiquity.
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So bascially Greeks aren't white and Greeks are the rightful owners of Turkey.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75329236


No, Greeks are Mediterranean Whites, not Nordic. The ancients themselves have given hints about that anyway through their art and literature. But this won't be for much more since the influx of illegal immigrants from all around the world into the EU will destroy the natives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65233279


Not anymore, but Greeks in the distant past WERE Nordic.

Blue eyed whites originated on the Black Sea and spread throughout Europe, creating the great civilizations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592813


Actually no. Themselves described as not very white as in the north and not black as in the south. They had mostly brown eyes that you can see even today in both frescoes and in statues like the Iniochos ( [link to www.amforeas.gr] ). Stop claiming every civilization that you actually never had any contact before the late antiquity.
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Actually yes.
Those brown eyes are now black, and earlier a lot of them were blue.
Even in Pericles' time they were much whiter than today.
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No, Greeks are Mediterranean Whites, not Nordic. The ancients themselves have given hints about that anyway through their art and literature. But this won't be for much more since the influx of illegal immigrants from all around the world into the EU will destroy the natives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65233279


Not anymore, but Greeks in the distant past WERE Nordic.

Blue eyed whites originated on the Black Sea and spread throughout Europe, creating the great civilizations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592813


Actually no. Themselves described as not very white as in the north and not black as in the south. They had mostly brown eyes that you can see even today in both frescoes and in statues like the Iniochos ( [link to www.amforeas.gr] ). Stop claiming every civilization that you actually never had any contact before the late antiquity.
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Actually yes.
Those brown eyes are now black, and earlier a lot of them were blue.
Even in Pericles' time they were much whiter than today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592813


Where are your data from? We are talking about descriptions of themselves. And the average eye color is still brown.
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Not anymore, but Greeks in the distant past WERE Nordic.

Blue eyed whites originated on the Black Sea and spread throughout Europe, creating the great civilizations.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592813


Actually no. Themselves described as not very white as in the north and not black as in the south. They had mostly brown eyes that you can see even today in both frescoes and in statues like the Iniochos ( [link to www.amforeas.gr] ). Stop claiming every civilization that you actually never had any contact before the late antiquity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65233279


Actually yes.
Those brown eyes are now black, and earlier a lot of them were blue.
Even in Pericles' time they were much whiter than today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592813


Where are your data from? We are talking about descriptions of themselves. And the average eye color is still brown.
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Every Greek I've ever seen has black eyes and black hair.

I've researched history and I know where and when whites changed from caucasion. I've heard that the ancient greeks were lighter from different sources.
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Actually no. Themselves described as not very white as in the north and not black as in the south. They had mostly brown eyes that you can see even today in both frescoes and in statues like the Iniochos ( [link to www.amforeas.gr] ). Stop claiming every civilization that you actually never had any contact before the late antiquity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65233279


Actually yes.
Those brown eyes are now black, and earlier a lot of them were blue.
Even in Pericles' time they were much whiter than today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592813


Where are your data from? We are talking about descriptions of themselves. And the average eye color is still brown.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65233279


Every Greek I've ever seen has black eyes and black hair.

I've researched history and I know where and when whites changed from caucasion. I've heard that the ancient greeks were lighter from different sources.
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So by your experience in the US, not by actually seen actual Greeks in Greece. As for Nordic, no they were not, except from some Dorian tribes.

See for example
[link to ancientgreekdna.blogspot.gr]

They usually depicted their Gods as blond since it was something exotic for them and they wanted their Gods to be unique. Frescoes and statues from real humans though were depicted with more compatible to their appearance colors.
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Actually yes.
Those brown eyes are now black, and earlier a lot of them were blue.
Even in Pericles' time they were much whiter than today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592813


Where are your data from? We are talking about descriptions of themselves. And the average eye color is still brown.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65233279


Every Greek I've ever seen has black eyes and black hair.

I've researched history and I know where and when whites changed from caucasion. I've heard that the ancient greeks were lighter from different sources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592813


So by your experience in the US, not by actually seen actual Greeks in Greece. As for Nordic, no they were not, except from some Dorian tribes.

See for example
[link to ancientgreekdna.blogspot.gr]

They usually depicted their Gods as blond since it was something exotic for them and they wanted their Gods to be unique. Frescoes and statues from real humans though were depicted with more compatible to their appearance colors.
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There are a lot of actual Greeks in the US. I've never seen a Greek in person or in a picture who didn't have black eyes. But this wasn't the case thousands of years ago.

It's funny that you post that link. I was just trying to look at it but it won't work for me.

The ancient Greeks had elder respect for their gods so it makes sense that they would be depicted more like the earlier population of founders.

The ancient Egyptians and Sumerians were also WHITE. That's just the way it was, although scholars don't like to talk about it.
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Where are your data from? We are talking about descriptions of themselves. And the average eye color is still brown.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65233279


Every Greek I've ever seen has black eyes and black hair.

I've researched history and I know where and when whites changed from caucasion. I've heard that the ancient greeks were lighter from different sources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74592813


So by your experience in the US, not by actually seen actual Greeks in Greece. As for Nordic, no they were not, except from some Dorian tribes.

See for example
[link to ancientgreekdna.blogspot.gr]

They usually depicted their Gods as blond since it was something exotic for them and they wanted their Gods to be unique. Frescoes and statues from real humans though were depicted with more compatible to their appearance colors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65233279


There are a lot of actual Greeks in the US. I've never seen a Greek in person or in a picture who didn't have black eyes. But this wasn't the case thousands of years ago.

It's funny that you post that link. I was just trying to look at it but it won't work for me.

The ancient Greeks had elder respect for their gods so it makes sense that they would be depicted more like the earlier population of founders.

The ancient Egyptians and Sumerians were also WHITE. That's just the way it was, although scholars don't like to talk about it.
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Ancient Egyptians and Sumerians were white but Mediterranean White, NOT Nordic. Both skeletal/cranial data and preserved DNA (as for example in the study that is mentioned in the thread) indicate that! As for your assumption that their gods depicted earlier populations, it is exactly that, your assumption. Apart from that, Greeks would respect and sometimes adapt as their own, gods from other civilizations.
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makes sense.thing is,gobleki was probably either the first lab for creation or the lab for a revamp of creation.as most species started out in the stan region.making it the eden center,which root word is An/god.
after dietary demands then started changing mans form through enzymes.of the animals they consumed in their locals.thus some mainly consumed pigs,so upturned nose,some rats,thus downturned and long noses.chimps,thus chimplike facial features.all because of the need to eat and babies of that species were more easily caught.baby animals being the strongest enzymes available for changes in mammalian transformation.
sprouted seeds being second.so sprouted coconuts created giants of species.
so big dinosaurs came from eating sprouted coconuts or eating animal offspring of sprouted coconut eating species.
greek people may be the most closely pure because of their grain intake and lack of meat eating.having the highest safe and reliable food resources throughout history.thus less dietary demand for meat.
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dude this is actually amazing info its just that its piled up kinda nasty haha
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Just as recent genetic evidence points to a source for the Egyptian in ancient Turkey as well...


Interesting.


Very interesting.

And the Egyptian priests of Ammon told Alexander that the Greeks were descended from their same people.


Common origin for Greek and Egyptian civilization?
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yea folks laugh but its truth.ive done the research and have the evidence to back it up.
thing is greek didnt exist before flood.all languages go back to sumer.even hindi.so all people are spinoffs of sumer.the races actually came about faster than what we are being told.i can change any animal or mans color in one thousand years with nothing more than their food.isolationism perfected these gene lines.
radon made carbon dating throw off the dates.i suspect theres something to the bible dates but not as short as bible puts them.gobleki was a real breakthrough.it ties in so many things.
an region is steppes.this was the spring board to all directions.sumer language proves this.ghengis khan really enjoyed sex.but so do all dropas.hes a hybrid alien.the k shows his origins.but han spread east first.dropas lineage spilled over like a virus.increasing the breading and procreation via high sex drive.thus flooding asia with peeps.the dropas showed up after the flood.thus later influence.but a marker on the time line.
odds are cows were used as wombs for humans and thats the true reason for worshipping them.cows were implanted with human ova and sperm.created in gobleki lab by the others.
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Just as recent genetic evidence points to a source for the Egyptian in ancient Turkey as well...


Interesting.


Very interesting.

And the Egyptian priests of Ammon told Alexander that the Greeks were descended from their same people.


Common origin for Greek and Egyptian civilization?
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Both Greeks and Egyptians have J2 haplogroup
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You do know that gobekli tepe is Armenian, right? And the real name is portasar
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two totally different stories are bound with the same binding and leather but there stories are in separate languages.
think of haplogroups as the notes inbedded in the software.each software creator writes his notes differently.
same with bloodtypes.
explain the dropa tribes haplogroup.cant be done.

this thread is turning into a racial leaning thing when in reality,its like cars,theres formula race cars that cant do baja and theres bajas that cant formula.
each a tool for a purpose.
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Just as recent genetic evidence points to a source for the Egyptian in ancient Turkey as well...


Interesting.


Very interesting.

And the Egyptian priests of Ammon told Alexander that the Greeks were descended from their same people.


Common origin for Greek and Egyptian civilization?
 Quoting: Adytum


Both Greeks and Egyptians have J2 haplogroup
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Fascinating.

Thanks.
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matter of fact.im white, but no race is greater than another.given two naked men in the desert hunting for food with a spear.the black man survives better.if the world goes tits up and its not a flood.the black man will out do the white man.then all the whites aint gonna feel so special.
those white women will run like herds towards the black race.
on the other hand if it floods and gets cold,those women will run towards white men.as we know blacks cant swim!just a poke at my black brothers!
as women by nature are survival of the species.
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Turkey was never ancient. Everything ancient that they find in modern turkey. They claim to be Turkish.

Here is an example. You find a native American pyramid in the US? Do you call it an American pyramid or a native American pyramid? See, what I am getting at?
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yea those pyramids may have been built by blue giant neanderthals.
bibletards racism ruins history repeatedly for snowflake propaganda agendas worldwide.
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Google turkic migration.
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Every Greek I've ever seen has black eyes and black hair.

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Every Greek I've met had green eyes and curly brown hair.





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