###With all these "SAVIOR GODS" why is there still "Sin?" ### | |
A. B. F. User ID: 96191 United States 03/18/2007 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 209973 Puerto Rico 03/18/2007 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because we are product of GOD sin ..... We are a mental jerkoff i the mind of God .... He created man & woman in order to be able to screw himself out of boredoom .... but shit happens! out of the concoction came out Lucifer! who negated himself ! |
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The Salt
User ID: 192276 United States 03/18/2007 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ahhhh the glorious enigma of free will. "And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 210797 Canada 03/18/2007 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only thing we need to be 'saved' from is ignorance of our own divine nature. Quoting: Taz 188701Sin and hell are man-made doctrines designed to create guilt and fear amongst the people and therefore control them. Knowledge is freedom! Taz You speak my language, Taz!! Agreed!! |
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Prodigal24 User ID: 210790 Australia 03/18/2007 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The difference between Jesus Christ and any other man made god or fable is that Christ is a Living God, the rest are dead. When Adam and Eve were in the garden, the Lord gave them free will to obey, of out love, not force. When Eve was tempted (woman can be easily tempted and cave in when there husbands arent watching or there to protect them, or the woman is controlling and says 'I'll do it my way') her eyes were opened up to the things her eyes were never meant to see. Guilt came into her spirit. Blame was born 'it was the devil's fault, it was Eve's fault'. We all like to blame others for our sins. If we tied Galations 5.22 around our finger, and read it, before we spoke or acted, it may just stop us from the same guilt and shame and regret that Adam and Eve experienced. One of the fruits of knowing Christ is : self control. |
mathetes
User ID: 160832 United States 03/18/2007 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WITH ALL THESE “SAVIOR GODS”, WHY IS THERE STILL SIN? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 204805All of the following “saviors” have these things in common: 1 – all were said to be the “son/sun of God” 2 – all were born to a virgin 3 – all were born on Dec. 25th 4 – all came to “save” mankind from his “sin” 5 – all were “crucified” on a “cross” and died 6 – all rose from the dead on the 3rd day 7 – all promised to return etc., etc., etc., Sounds familiar, doesn’t it!! “Jesus” was the 17th to make these same claims. Here’s a list of all 17 saviors. CRUCIFIXION OF CHRISHNA OF INDIA, 1200 B.C CRUCIFIXION OF THE HINDOO SAKIA, 600 B.C THAMMUZ OF SYRIA CRUCIFIED, 1160 B.C CRUCIFIXION OF WITTOBA OF THE TELINGONESIC, 552 B.C IAO OF NEPAUL CRUCIFIED, 622 B.C HESUS OF THE CELTIC DRUIDS CRUCIFIED, 834 B.C QUEXALCOTE OF MEXICO CRUCIFIED, 587 B.C QUIRINUS OF ROME CRUCIFIED, 506 B.C AESCHYLUS) PROMETHEUS CRUCIFIED, 547 B.C CRUCIFIXION OF THULIS OF EGYPT, 1700 B.C CRUCIFIXION OF INDRA OF TIBET, 725 B.C ALCESTOS OF EURIPIDES CRUCIFIED, 600 B.C ATYS OF PHRYGIA CRUCIFIED, 1170 B.C CRITE OF CHALDEA CRUCIFIED, 1200 B.C BALI OF ORISSA CRUCIFIED, 725 B.C MITHRA OF PERSIA CRUCIFIED, 600 B.C JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIED, 33 A.D.???????? With all these “saviors”, how is it that there is still “sin?” Surely, we’re all “saved” by now, not???? OP your either uninformed or naive and believe something you read on the internet, Krishna was niether crucified or born of a virgin! Please show me from the Mahabharata or the Purana's where this is so! And the rest of your list is false also but lets go down it one at a time! I'll be waiting! For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
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mathetes
User ID: 160832 United States 03/18/2007 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I meant Mathetes instead of Kay, but Kay probably believes the same thing. Quoting: Taz 188701Taz Hello Taz, lets stick to one subject at a time, the OP made some wild claims, claims that are made all the time with no backing! For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 210797 Canada 03/18/2007 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The difference between Jesus Christ and any other man made god or fable is that Christ is a Living God, the rest are dead. Quoting: Prodigal24 210790When Adam and Eve were in the garden, the Lord gave them free will to obey, of out love, not force. When Eve was tempted (woman can be easily tempted and cave in when there husbands arent watching or there to protect them, or the woman is controlling and says 'I'll do it my way') her eyes were opened up to the things her eyes were never meant to see. Guilt came into her spirit. Blame was born 'it was the devil's fault, it was Eve's fault'. We all like to blame others for our sins. If we tied Galations 5.22 around our finger, and read it, before we spoke or acted, it may just stop us from the same guilt and shame and regret that Adam and Eve experienced. One of the fruits of knowing Christ is : self control. Fuck off, you MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Prodigal24 User ID: 210790 Australia 03/18/2007 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The difference between Jesus Christ and any other man made god or fable is that Christ is a Living God, the rest are dead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 210797When Adam and Eve were in the garden, the Lord gave them free will to obey, of out love, not force. When Eve was tempted (woman can be easily tempted and cave in when there husbands arent watching or there to protect them, or the woman is controlling and says 'I'll do it my way') her eyes were opened up to the things her eyes were never meant to see. Guilt came into her spirit. Blame was born 'it was the devil's fault, it was Eve's fault'. We all like to blame others for our sins. If we tied Galations 5.22 around our finger, and read it, before we spoke or acted, it may just stop us from the same guilt and shame and regret that Adam and Eve experienced. One of the fruits of knowing Christ is : self control. Fuck off, you MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh no, please, allow me to ask you to do the same.xxx |
Prodigal24 User ID: 210790 Australia 03/18/2007 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The difference between Jesus Christ and any other man made god or fable is that Christ is a Living God, the rest are dead. Quoting: Prodigal24 210790When Adam and Eve were in the garden, the Lord gave them free will to obey, of out love, not force. When Eve was tempted (woman can be easily tempted and cave in when there husbands arent watching or there to protect them, or the woman is controlling and says 'I'll do it my way') her eyes were opened up to the things her eyes were never meant to see. Guilt came into her spirit. Blame was born 'it was the devil's fault, it was Eve's fault'. We all like to blame others for our sins. If we tied Galations 5.22 around our finger, and read it, before we spoke or acted, it may just stop us from the same guilt and shame and regret that Adam and Eve experienced. One of the fruits of knowing Christ is : self control. Fuck off, you MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh no, please, allow me to ask you to do the same.xxx oops...I forgot to type your name: DEMON |
Prodigal24 User ID: 210790 Australia 03/18/2007 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | '...Fuck off, you MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!...' ..lol..its sooooo good when people are obviously so lost that they resort to cussing; its that the best you can do? Hey, Nikki Cruise did that once to Dave Wilkerson -- then became the author of 'The Cross and the Switchblade'. Do yourself a favour, go read it, and then thank God one day when you've found Him as Lord and Saviour that I had the gall to challenge you. Oh, by the way, your on my prayer list! |
ButchHowdy
User ID: 179689 United States 03/18/2007 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Salvation is a PROCESS Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose. (Phil. 2:12,13) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 210797 Canada 03/18/2007 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prove to me that Krishna was neither crucified nor born of a virgin. While you're at it PROVE to me, the character, called 'jesus' was crucified and born of a virgin. |
mathetes
User ID: 160832 United States 03/18/2007 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey Mathetes, Quoting: Taz 188701I see 'sin' as being undefinable. These Savior Gods are based on astrotheology anyway. Replace 'Son' with 'Sun' and you see why there existed so many other dying and risen sons(suns)of God before Jesus. Taz Well I totally disagree with your first statement, and as far as 'saviour gods" are concerned there are many fertility gods but none that rose from the dead bodily and were physically seen ascending to heaven. I contend that the Gospel record of Jesus is unique. But I do enjoy debate with someone as polite and knowledgeable as you. Peace! For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Stan P. User ID: 180894 United States 03/18/2007 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe the word "sin" means to "miss the mark". Sin is "error". Living in Fear and Self-Condemnation is one type of spiritual error. Just like learning to drive... We keep making "errors" until we get on course... Most people are still going in the wrong direction (fear-based thinking). Once we've serewed up the planet enough to realize we're totally screwed beyond repair... maybe then we'll change. But I kinda doubt it. Best Wishes, Stan P. |
Prodigal24 User ID: 210790 Australia 03/18/2007 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP your either uninformed or naive and believe something you read on the internet, Krishna was niether crucified or born of a virgin! Please show me from the Mahabharata or the Purana's where this is so! And the rest of your list is false also but lets go down it one at a time! I'll be waiting! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 210797Prove to me that Krishna was neither crucified nor born of a virgin. While you're at it PROVE to me, the character, called 'jesus' was crucified and born of a virgin. '....While you're at it PROVE to me, the character, called 'jesus' was crucified and born of a virgin....' You know, no one can 'prove' anything to anyone, except if our own human eyes see or physically experience something. That is the natural. To understand the Supernatural love of Christ, you need to as Him to reveal His love and reality to you. I have no idea how He will do this, but I do know one thing, from my own experience, I believe in Him, Ive experienced His love, and mercy and kindess and long suffering and forgiveness and His hope and peace that cannot be found in the temporary pleasures of this world. Perhaps Psalm 139 can help you understand how long ago the Lord knew you. Or Romans 5.5 when you need hope and to understand His love is a gift. Or perhaps John 15 to understand how important it is to be attached to Christ and not guru's that come from man's account. Finally, I really hope you do find the Christ that I know, and when you do, you will know Him, and you won't need to ask anyone to prove Him to you. Ask, He's waiting for you to do just that. Christ is a gentleman, His love He will never force on anyone. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 182577 Canada 03/19/2007 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP your either uninformed or naive and believe something you read on the internet, Krishna was niether crucified or born of a virgin! Please show me from the Mahabharata or the Purana's where this is so! And the rest of your list is false also but lets go down it one at a time! I'll be waiting! Quoting: Prodigal24 210790Prove to me that Krishna was neither crucified nor born of a virgin. While you're at it PROVE to me, the character, called 'jesus' was crucified and born of a virgin. '....While you're at it PROVE to me, the character, called 'jesus' was crucified and born of a virgin....' You know, no one can 'prove' anything to anyone, except if our own human eyes see or physically experience something. That is the natural. To understand the Supernatural love of Christ, you need to as Him to reveal His love and reality to you. I have no idea how He will do this, but I do know one thing, from my own experience, I believe in Him, Ive experienced His love, and mercy and kindess and long suffering and forgiveness and His hope and peace that cannot be found in the temporary pleasures of this world. Perhaps Psalm 139 can help you understand how long ago the Lord knew you. Or Romans 5.5 when you need hope and to understand His love is a gift. Or perhaps John 15 to understand how important it is to be attached to Christ and not guru's that come from man's account. Finally, I really hope you do find the Christ that I know, and when you do, you will know Him, and you won't need to ask anyone to prove Him to you. Ask, He's waiting for you to do just that. Christ is a gentleman, His love He will never force on anyone. Explain to me, why can an atheist experience exactly what you describe? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 428095 France 05/05/2008 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | go buy a cheap book on astronomy and learn about summer and winter solstice and look these up in the king james version Job , oldest stories from the bible, maybe 4500 years old job 38:31 job 38:32 Aah, the Mazzaroth, look it up deepdip, to save you a couple of minutes, it means "zodiak" "constellations" pleiades, arcturus are stars deeperdip, if you think other wise We have cheap beachfront property for you in utah to sell you oh, luke 22:10 you deepestdip, i'm thirsty, we'll follow that guy with water, his name isthe constellation "aquarius" If you over-stand that the fish is the sign of pisces , then you overs the jesus/fish symbol connection, the dude (JC) simply was a fabrication to hide the astronomical and astrological significations as was the rest of the sixteen, Did you ever find out what happened to the children of Cleopatra and Marc Antony ? Please becareful after your next prayers to try not to give praises to the "sun god" , by saying his name at the end . . . < amen-ra > Anyways , shouldn't you be getting ready for IMR ? (Iron Mountain Recommendations) (fuck, dude, homeland security is the same title Hitler gave the germans) Do you know what a fasci is and where to find them ? (clue- nextime your president gives a "state of the union " bs speech, look behind on the walls, can't miss them), . . . fuck that, "out of many, one" We love you dude or just become another <goyum> in the poll of < human resources>, don't you already feel like a goyum ? yes knowledge is freedom NOT our liberty, liberties are given to you , like privelages, which can be given & taken back from you, Statue of Liberty does not mean statue of Freedom, just ask the Franc masons in france (FreeMasons) who built it and gave it to the land of the goyum We hope you get to discover the art of "unabridging" your Pineal gland one day . . . . ? ? You are an improved creature and should base your guidance on you, the "I Am" (if you learn how to 'unabridge' your brain , i.e.- find the keys to the matrix-center of power in your brain and enter thru and <meet> the real you, if you're not too scared of who you might meet ? ? Sin is a word invented (for mental slaves) like coincidence, these words don't exist, simple intuition will tell the child that 16 jesus stories thru all the different lands and ages is just too many, too many similarities, to be termed 'coincidence', rather bullshit ! |
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