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Message Subject Unconditoinal love: A weapon of the illuminati!! EXPOSED.
Poster Handle CrankyFairy1
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I really appreciate you continuing the conversation in such an open and respectful way. Yay us!!

I definitely think life is hard, so that we may know what "blissful" and "heaven" mean. Without dark, how would we know light?? I believe that God wants us to "grow up" to be strong, resourceful people of character who can help rule the kingdom, and, like any good parent, he kicks our butts to keep us in line and respectful. The less respectful we are, the more painful life is.

I also believe that God gave us the POTENTIAL to be incredibly strong and godlike ourselves. However, this power was not put in the hands of the undeserving - we must show ourself worthy through character, experience and history.

Thank you for the continuing reminder to not feed into the evil that already exists.
hfpeace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75029553

Yeah for sure man, I'm here to discover the truth and I'm prepared even to change my ideas!!

But oh boy, "Without ddark, how woud we know light?"

How wrong you are!

OK guys let's just think about this.

First I've seen this question so many times, asked in that question way. As if it's a self-evident fact!

So if we have never known cold, we wouldn't know what hot is.

Basically it's yin yang taoism teachings.

To me, this is like the people who tell someone depressed: "Hey, don't feel so bad, there's starving kids in africa, you could be one of them, others have it worse."

Isn't this sick? How is them starving helping my life?

AnsweR: In no way whatsoever. These two are totally unrelated events.

I think that this is another glaring illuminati psy-op that says without evil you don't know what's love.

And why?

They say:
with no pain for contrast, we can't know good.

but why should we accept we need contrast to know good?

the hidden premiss:
nothing is self-evident

since good is not self-evident, neither evil are self-evident, they need each other to explain each other

but CLEARLY this is wrong, for feeling good IS self evident!!

Just imagine the very first time you stung yourself on a roses's thorn... picking the beauty...

or maybe a sharp stick etc...

it STUNG! Yet you immediately knew "This pain means I should remove my hand from the sting"

even if you hadn't seen the thorn with your eyes, just the FEELING means this

IT doesn't mean "I should put my hand further into the thorn"

Why? It's self-evident

So in the same way, why isn't love self-evident?

If god is teaching us through pain, is he un-creative? Why can't he teach us from good directly? Is evil a better teacher than good?

And gow did god himself learn what's good? Did god need to feel evil before? Did god learn through pain?

No! God can't feel bad! No one would seriously contend this.

(I'll be back later for more convo!!)
 Quoting: CrankyFairy1


Interesting! I agree that God is in a whole separate category than us lower beings! I don't mean to suggest, however, that God is "teaching" us through pain though- I believe that we all have an opportunity to experience and act based on "free will" and to see what direction it takes us. The universe therefore provides us with many opportunities to experience love/hate; virtue/evil; peace/war. Maybe "pain" exists to encourage us to seek out the more positive, constructive alternatives (love) because we can't be forced to CHOOSE good, but we can be given a little incentive not to choose the negative??

I also agree that you don't need any context to know that you are being burned by fire, but there is not as clear-cut an analogy for the "pain" that is caused internally and spiritually via lying, cruelty, hatred, etc. Don't get me wrong, I feel "hate' bubble up at times when I think about the pure evil that is becoming more and more prevalent these days. However, I do not have the capacity (or desire) to fight that level of "hate" with more of the same and I believe that if I tried, it would destroy me. Therefore, the only alternative that makes sense, to me, is not to add to the fire by joining my feelings of "hate" with theirs, but to counter it the only way I know how - by not getting swept up into the negative energy, and by staying strong and true to myself, and honoring virtue and kindness and truth, and rejecting hatred and evil.

I respect your desire to fight for truth and light and it is our responsibility to look inside ourselves to truly find the best way to counter what is happening these days - and maybe different people have different paths. But I also believe that action taken in the heat of anger or hatred will most likely not be the most constructive answer.

hfpeacehfpeace
 
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