Interesting! I agree that God is in a whole separate category than us lower beings! I don't mean to suggest, however, that God is "teaching" us through pain though- I believe that we all have an opportunity to experience and act based on "free will" and to see what direction it takes us. The universe therefore provides us with many opportunities to experience love/hate; virtue/evil; peace/war. Maybe "pain" exists to encourage us to seek out the more positive, constructive alternatives (love) because we can't be forced to CHOOSE good, but we can be given a little incentive not to choose the negative??
I also agree that you don't need any context to know that you are being burned by fire, but there is not as clear-cut an analogy for the "pain" that is caused internally and spiritually via lying, cruelty, hatred, etc. Don't get me wrong, I feel "hate' bubble up at times when I think about the pure evil that is becoming more and more prevalent these days. However, I do not have the capacity (or desire) to fight that level of "hate" with more of the same and I believe that if I tried, it would destroy me. Therefore, the only alternative that makes sense, to me, is not to add to the fire by joining my feelings of "hate" with theirs, but to counter it the only way I know how - by not getting swept up into the negative energy, and by staying strong and true to myself, and honoring virtue and kindness and truth, and rejecting hatred and evil.
I respect your desire to fight for truth and light and it is our responsibility to look inside ourselves to truly find the best way to counter what is happening these days - and maybe different people have different paths. But I also believe that action taken in the heat of anger or hatred will most likely not be the most constructive answer.
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Thanks man! Glad I was able to be of some help.
I'd just say that I don't think that that pain is necessary- I don't deny that there could be BENEFITS to the bad times- but only because we're stuck in this prision planet, and hey, maybe a little scare of me losing my house and becoming homeless is gonna make me think how badly society is fucked up. How stupid is this system of money! How stupid it is that many are starving because of the lack of a green paper.
Still I don't think it's right to say that pain is an incentive to do good- why not make the good very appealing, for instance? I see many people defending pain and evil- they do come from a good place. They want to say, "The present moment is great! Be glad in every moment." They want to say that God wanted us to feel pain, that this pain was created for our own good! They want to feel good so they accept how things are- even the slavery! A huge feat, I applaud their efforts to love THIS. But then again it's saying that pain is necessary and I find that very saddening and negative.
Pain should never, ever have existed. It's unecessary, uneeded, nothing good comes from pain (Except when you're asleep and need to wake you up, maybe.)
What could be more positive than saying that, right? Many people say we WANTED to experience pain, we're all god asleep, we maybe got bored of feeling so well so we now wanted to experience pain. I find that to be quite sick. So, I'm merely presenting an alternative to this. I think that my point of view is much more positive!
That's why I say we should HATE pain. I only mean to say, "Things should be better." I only mean to say, "This shit that's happening here in planet Earth is wrong! We deserve much more than this." I just want people to have some hope. If I say, "This is what we all wanted, this is what's right, we're all god asleep, playing a game", I think that's going to tear down the souls of many.
