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Good post OP. One thing that strikes me is that those Confederate memorials have nothing to do with racism as it exists today. The events they represent happened 150 years ago, and there were racists in the North and in the South.
The South defended slavery as it was part of their economic viability. That is all gone and no one is proposing a return to slavery.

We have racism today, but the causes are very different. To pull down a monument reflecting heritage and claim it is a way of attacking racial problems that exist today is just ignorant. I do not know what can be done to change such wrong headed thinking, before all of our heritage is lost.

Actually, I am pretty sure the globalists are provoking this, and people are being manipulated. Destroying these statues is as wrong-headed as the Nazi's destruction of history and truth was in the lead up to WWII.
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I am an Indian citizen. Not white, not Indian aryan even (brown skinned south Indian dravidian actually). And let me tell you this is not about racism as they want you to think. This is about removing your history. It is about stealing your pride. George Soros WANTS you to be good little slaves. Granted they may not have the Presidency or the senate but they still do have the democrat controlled local governments.

It is about removing your history - if they can destroy the way you see the history of your fathers, because you feel ashamed, then they can break you down as you cannot look forward with a vision in life. It is about confusing you. So that you may be better subjects who can willingly be controlled. It is about turning you into becoming less fortunate. it is not about emancipating blacks either but rather bringing your way of life down equal with those who previously were less privileged.

They are vilifying your current president exactly because he stands for history and family values.

Democratic party and MSM are all about divide and rule.

Peace and love to you, my beautiful brothers and sisters.
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Another way they're doing it is breaking the family so that children grow up without knowing their grandparents. Knowing someone well of another generation is a true link to history. Especially if they have books in their house and you read those old books.

That's how I grew up and it shaped who I am today, reading the books that my grandparents read when they were young in the first decades of the 20th century.

The media and academia can tell you whatever they want about history if you don't have anyone to ask about it that actually lived it, or whose parents lived it.

Just isolate one generation, that's probably all it takes to make a break with any kind of cultural, historical continuity.
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I am going to tale you, I do not care about monuments but to some white and black people who had people in that war, in the south, do care, the monuments are similar to grave markers. They were brave men and some women but those should not be talked about.

All fought side by side, died side by side on both sides, and I may not care but the sons of the confederacy does. There are reenactments of the war, the Union and the Confederate, why, I have no idea but it is not just this war that has reenactments, they do it overseas for others wars.

It not any of my business why, it their freedom to do so, that good enough.
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Worst of all, after the Civil War it took many years to heal those wounds. People worked very hard to overcome the devastation and hatred unleashed by that war. I think they succeeded, but current actions simply reopen old wounds. We had learned to live and let live. Now, the South is being attacked.
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I am going to tale you, I do not care about monuments but to some white and black people who had people in that war, in the south, do care, the monuments are similar to grave markers. They were brave men and some women but those should not be talked about.

All fought side by side, died side by side on both sides, and I may not care but the sons of the confederacy does. There are reenactments of the war, the Union and the Confederate, why, I have no idea but it is not just this war that has reenactments, they do it overseas for others wars.

It not any of my business why, it their freedom to do so, that good enough.
 Quoting: hankie


Worst of all, after the Civil War it took many years to heal those wounds. People worked very hard to overcome the devastation and hatred unleashed by that war. I think they succeeded, but current actions simply reopen old wounds. We had learned to live and let live. Now, the South is being attacked.
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We're finding that the Civil War never really ended. It's just been dormant.
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The financial collapse must be imminent so they are pulling out all the predicted distractions for when it happens. Time to buy some S&P put options.
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Hello all

first a little about me , 28yo black male from Texas , I'm a mechanic at a dealership, Avg hard working man who takes care of the wife and kiddos
Any who

I don't watch the news too much so I may or may not have the just of the issue but here goes

1 one mans hero is another mans villan
2 war monuments are earned with blood
3 reguardless of race people need to respect the fact that this is someone's heratige

Maybe I'm stupid but General Robert E Lee and many other deserve respect because anyone who is willing to die for what they believe in deserves respect.

Here are some of my understandings of the reason there was a war of northern aggression lol ( or the southern aggression )

1 slavery wasn't the main reason , I believe it was a weapon used by the north but I could be wrong ( think about it )

2 the south produced a lot in terms of agriculture and then they had high taxes who tvg the south saw little of in terms of representation ( sound like the revolution to me )

3 a lot of the norths businesses didn't have the man power and resources the south had at the time with the help of slavery ( they were just trying to get rich at least they were honest , now places like Enron fuck you behind your back )

4 slaves were a necessity all that work in the fields without modern machines is a cluster fuck , is it a ugly part of history yea sure but I'm glad my ancestors paid the price so I didn't end up in Africa fuck that shit, so I thank my ancestors for making the trip and dealing with the bull shit

It's country Christian farmers and ranchers living modest vs the fat cat type folks in the city who accepted non Christian beliefs wway back then
KINDA SOUNDS LIKE TODAY

I guess if this is rambling I'm sorry
I'll get to the point

People died for that monument and its part of my heratige because without it people forget where they came from as a black man I'm pissed that a bunch of people wanna destroy my heratige

Also to the black people that is all booty hurt this part is for yall
If you think a bunch of honkeys give 2 shits about a bunch of salves your stupid there was alterior motives..thay didn't care then and they don't care now wake the heck up

We're just a small piece of some fat cats agenda to line his own pocket THEY NEVER LOVED US were blacks come on man

Bash me idgaf maybe it's rambling but who gives a shit I needed to ventflip
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YES! I love my black peoples.

It always has been and always will be about money money money.
The gold exchangers make the rules, whether you white or black don't matter, we are all tools for the elite class. However, read a very very interesting article by a black American female golfer who tried to crack the LPGA ranks after attaining a scholarship. We could make a VERY short list of the non white PGA and LPGA professionals since the 1920's.

She points out that it is mostly the privileged upper 1%ers that ever enjoy making it in those ranks, thing is, the university had no problem sponsoring her on a golf scholarship at a cost to them of 65k a year, because their football and basketball programs populated by mostly blacks made so much bank they had no problem wasting money on golf.

Those 1%ers and their ratty children look at all poor folk the same.

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I am going to tale you, I do not care about monuments but to some white and black people who had people in that war, in the south, do care, the monuments are similar to grave markers. They were brave men and some women but those should not be talked about.

All fought side by side, died side by side on both sides, and I may not care but the sons of the confederacy does. There are reenactments of the war, the Union and the Confederate, why, I have no idea but it is not just this war that has reenactments, they do it overseas for others wars.

It not any of my business why, it their freedom to do so, that good enough.
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Worst of all, after the Civil War it took many years to heal those wounds. People worked very hard to overcome the devastation and hatred unleashed by that war. I think they succeeded, but current actions simply reopen old wounds. We had learned to live and let live. Now, the South is being attacked.
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The PTB need to erase anyone's/everyone's awareness of the past, and the idea that they are connected to all that.

A people with no history are far easier to re-shape and re-mold into their NWO-ideal.

It's the fucking hijacking and burial of US History, pure and simple.

Let's call it what it is.
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remember this all the people in those monuments were democrats
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remember this all the people in those monuments were democrats
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Yea that too the same people that enslaved us are the motherfuckers talking about equal rights today

Funny how MLK wasn't for gay marriage but yet no one is gonna destroy his monuments wher sis the talk of this
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were 'you' enslaved?

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My dog ate my pronouns, he/she/it - everywhere. (Clown World tees)
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Want to make God laugh, tell Him 'your' plans.
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Cremation... the only hope I have left for a smoking hot body...
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God bless America!

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I appreciate your story but disagree about the intentions of the founders of the GOP.

The Republican Party was founded on the principle that slavery must be ended because of moral and ethical principles. The party was started in 1854 and got the Emancipation Proclamation through 9 years later. That's some pretty amazing progress for a political movement considering the slavery had existed for millennia before that.

So I think it's cynical to doubt that the majority of those who started the GOP were just using slavery as some wedge issue. That's bullshit and takes away from the courage and legacy of Abe Lincoln and many others.

Take some time to go back through GOP history from the founding, and I think you would be surprised how successful it has been as a political movement. I think that the Republican movement is the greatest in human history, surpassing even the founding fathers who didn't give women votes and the 3/5th's compromise.

Then compare it to the Democrats history. Good lord, the difference between the two parties could not be clearer. The Dems founded the KKK and the IRS, and that's about all anyone needs to know about them. They have killed and enslaved millions. Republicans have fought for the individual rights and liberties of millions.
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Respectfully, sir, you are full of shit.
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If you do not know history, it not his or her fault, democrats were and are the party of oppression, slave holders and slavery believers, they wanted slavery no two if and buts about it. DEMOCRATS are the party of the KKK an Jim Crow Laws and every time the republicans got thing put in, the democrats came in and over ruled it, took it out of the law.

Republicans were abolitionist, anti slavery, and for equality for all people here. What in the world is wrong with you, didn't you know this at all?
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From what I have learned, it seems that history is misinterpreted by both sides.

The Republican Party was established on an abolitionists platform. So, yes, slavery WAS a major issue.

Now, I don't believe that the party intended to go to war over the issue. It was like any other legal platform issue--to be debated and hopefully changed over time through the legislature. Once the south separated, though, it became another issue that WOULD be resolved through hostilities.

So, it is not true to say Lincoln didn't care about slavery. It is also true, though, that he never intended to free the slaves through proclamation (unconstitutionally), before hostilities started. People point to quotes from Lincoln to this affect as proof he didn't care. Not true. The main purpose of his party was abolition. The original intent was to work constitutionally through the Congress, so you will find quotes (tailored to his audience, like any other politician) promising to not immediately end slavery.

Another point that shows slavery as an issue in the Civil War was from the Southern States' own documents. I don't know about ALL of them, but I have read the Virginia articles of secession, and for sure they DID enunciate legal slavery as a specific reason for secession. Most people who say that slavery "wasn't even why the war started" are not exactly right. The South felt threatened by the Republican platform.

Yes to the issue of taxation v representation, which you stated. The Democrats misrepresent this part of the history, also, though. Part of what they preach to crowds of SJWs is that blacks were "only 3/5 of a man," so the Constitution is evil. That sounds horrible, and so elicits a response. The truth is, the South was trying to argue for more legislative representation based on their population plus the population of their slaves, while in actuality treating their slaves as property with no rights at all.

Just like democrats, this is of course gaming the system. Either your slaves are men with rights who are due representation, or they are property. You can't have it both ways. So the only reason the 3/5 rule exists is because of Democrats. It was a compromise.

Yes to the issue of wealth and money. Southern "aristocrats" were advantaged by slavery--thus lived like kings; while northern business owners paid all of their help, thus couldn't compete in many areas. It only seemed fair to them that the 1% who had the advantage of owning slaves should be taxed on the labor of those slaves in the same way that northern workers had to pay taxes.

I would remind people who decry the founders for owning slaves, that the slavery debate did take place at the Constitutional Convention. The main reason abolition was not written into the Constitution was because the 1st priority in 1776 was to create the Union. All of the southern states would not have signed on with abolition, so it wasn't included.

The Founding Fathers were wise enough though, to include language in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution which would give Abraham Lincoln the confidence in his moral authority to free our people almost 100 years later. Don't expect the Marxist universities to teach this.

Another interesting note about Abraham Lincoln--I believe the reason he was murdered was because he planned to get rid of the central banks and return our right to issue currency to the legislature, where it Constitutionally belongs. This is also a freedom issue.

Someone earlier stated that slaves who fought for the South did so because they understood the issues. I don't buy this. They were there because they were serving with their masters. Freed and runaway slaves went North to fight, not south. Even the dirt poor (most of them) whites in the south didn't understand the issues. They fought because they were taught from birth that they were superior--and that the north wanted to give black men jobs that they didn't even have.

The United States was not the first country to outlaw slavery, but we are the only nation to ever fight a war to end it. It was one of the bloodiest wars ever fought, with 500,000 dead Americans--too keep the Union together and YES, to free the slaves once and for all. It is a crime that schools today would rather foment a Marxist revolution than teach history the way that it really happened.

This history is so unique, that it isn't just American history. It is world history, also, and should be treated as such. It is a crime to destroy artifacts that remind us of the agonies as well as the riteousness of our pasts. We should look at who benefits by erasing this history--if the world forgets, it will be repeated.

Thanks for the post. I love this subject! Gave me a chance to rant.
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Know this Op.. We brought you over because we love you. You wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for what we did to your ancestors. You made out great!. You have the opportunity that 99% of the world does not have! Thanks for speaking up!
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Maybe the OP would not be here if slavery did not happen and maybe it all worked out for the best, but what you just asserted is just so much BULLSHIT......I can't even describe. The slavers did not love anyone..........except profit at any cost.....even if it meant destroying their fellow human beings. And they used racism to justify it.....especially Christianity.

Get off it.

Even a dead clock is right twice a day. and go back to the first paragraph-------maybe God worls in mysterious ways, but for you to "angelize" the evil of slavery is repugnant. Shame on you.
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Lol. Silly crap ftom an uneducated low life.

Hey peasant... I appreciate your input. Try not to display it too often. You seem Limited.
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Ohhhhhhhhh. Peasant.....................wtf are you, a royalist? You sound even like a liberal.......who consider dissenters from their POV peasants. Holy shit, what stupidity. specialstupidblahblah5
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Bravo

Simple.

Rich wanna get richer fucking us .. The non rich

Lack of values, lack of respect, love of money

Love of self over others


All paths to destruction if you follow the book
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They guy AMERICAN ALL DIVIDED UP SO THE CAN TURN US ON EACH OTHER TO THEY CAN PROFIT IN THE END
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hesright
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1924 Democratic Convention : Klanbake
The longest convention and there were no black delegates !
103 ballots and 16 days to avoid a KKK nominee

Tells you all you need to know about how history is distorted by the liberal inteligencia
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It's also art. Taking it down is like burning a book.

Leftists are the real modern-day nazis.
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Bravo

Simple.

Rich wanna get richer fucking us .. The non rich

Lack of values, lack of respect, love of money

Love of self over others


All paths to destruction if you follow the book
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Ywah let's put up a Hitler monument cause we want loser psychos on our public lands.



Fuck all you stupid bastards
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46m
For those just waking up, here's what happened in Baltimore: the city's dead-of-night removal of all four of its Confederate monuments.
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1h
Celebrating at 4:20 AM on the base of the removed Lee-Jackson monument, Baltimore.

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It's intellectually dishonest to white wash the history of ones country.
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It's also art. Taking it down is like burning a book.

Leftists are the real modern-day nazis.
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We don't want no loser ass shit head hillbillies statues, you moron,
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You need to realize that the VAST majority of people that died for that confederate flag didn't even own slaves.
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Hello all

first a little about me , 28yo black male from Texas , I'm a mechanic at a dealership, Avg hard working man who takes care of the wife and kiddos
Any who

I don't watch the news too much so I may or may not have the just of the issue but here goes

1 one mans hero is another mans villan
2 war monuments are earned with blood
3 reguardless of race people need to respect the fact that this is someone's heratige

Maybe I'm stupid but General Robert E Lee and many other deserve respect because anyone who is willing to die for what they believe in deserves respect.

Here are some of my understandings of the reason there was a war of northern aggression lol ( or the southern aggression )

1 slavery wasn't the main reason , I believe it was a weapon used by the north but I could be wrong ( think about it )

2 the south produced a lot in terms of agriculture and then they had high taxes who tvg the south saw little of in terms of representation ( sound like the revolution to me )

3 a lot of the norths businesses didn't have the man power and resources the south had at the time with the help of slavery ( they were just trying to get rich at least they were honest , now places like Enron fuck you behind your back )

4 slaves were a necessity all that work in the fields without modern machines is a cluster fuck , is it a ugly part of history yea sure but I'm glad my ancestors paid the price so I didn't end up in Africa fuck that shit, so I thank my ancestors for making the trip and dealing with the bull shit

It's country Christian farmers and ranchers living modest vs the fat cat type folks in the city who accepted non Christian beliefs wway back then
KINDA SOUNDS LIKE TODAY

I guess if this is rambling I'm sorry
I'll get to the point

People died for that monument and its part of my heratige because without it people forget where they came from as a black man I'm pissed that a bunch of people wanna destroy my heratige

Also to the black people that is all booty hurt this part is for yall
If you think a bunch of honkeys give 2 shits about a bunch of salves your stupid there was alterior motives..thay didn't care then and they don't care now wake the heck up

We're just a small piece of some fat cats agenda to line his own pocket THEY NEVER LOVED US were blacks come on man

Bash me idgaf maybe it's rambling but who gives a shit I needed to ventflip
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You, sir, are brilliant!

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I work with a black dude from Alabama. He's pissed, but you won't hear his story on NPR.

Thanks, OP.
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I know a few black folks that have been upset about it- they posted on FB and black friends of theirs had differing opinions - the older blacks want the stuff let be, the younger want to tear it all down.
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I still can't wait to see if the masons let their god be removed.
Great post op.
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It's all about respect. No one wants their family members' graves trampled on. Reverence for the dead and their memory. Remembering the people who died for new rights for people and respect due to the ones who died trying to defend a way of life and lost.

There is no respect left in this world. It's gone. It's now a matter of might over right. No one cares who gets hurt.

Our children are STILL being taught this garbage every day in our schools. Lies and false history. Communism and rebellion. Yet, people do nothing about it. If you want to stop it, shut these antifa factories down and clean house. Refuse to send your children to these universities to have their minds twisted for life. Think of how much money is being invested every year into these social justice warrior factories! People are going into debt to have their minds twisted!

I don't think this problem will be solved. Every year more and more are turned out after liberalization in our colleges with this frame of mind. I suggest listening to Stephan Moleneux (sp?) video on this subject. Over 90% of our educators donated to Hillary in the last election. This mindset is raising the children while you work to support them.

I was raised in Baltimore City, one of the most racist places in this country. I hated the racism. I wanted to rise above it. I thought we had. It makes me sad to see where we've gone in the last 20 years.
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For the people that doubt that I'm black TRINITY knows I'm a black guy

Thanks for the support all of the positive messages and history lessons mean a lot to me
they couldnt spell good either so dont complain about mine

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Hello all

first a little about me , 28yo black male from Texas , I'm a mechanic at a dealership, Avg hard working man who takes care of the wife and kiddos
Any who

I don't watch the news too much so I may or may not have the just of the issue but here goes

1 one mans hero is another mans villan
2 war monuments are earned with blood
3 reguardless of race people need to respect the fact that this is someone's heratige

Maybe I'm stupid but General Robert E Lee and many other deserve respect because anyone who is willing to die for what they believe in deserves respect.

Here are some of my understandings of the reason there was a war of northern aggression lol ( or the southern aggression )

1 slavery wasn't the main reason , I believe it was a weapon used by the north but I could be wrong ( think about it )

2 the south produced a lot in terms of agriculture and then they had high taxes who tvg the south saw little of in terms of representation ( sound like the revolution to me )

3 a lot of the norths businesses didn't have the man power and resources the south had at the time with the help of slavery ( they were just trying to get rich at least they were honest , now places like Enron fuck you behind your back )

4 slaves were a necessity all that work in the fields without modern machines is a cluster fuck , is it a ugly part of history yea sure but I'm glad my ancestors paid the price so I didn't end up in Africa fuck that shit, so I thank my ancestors for making the trip and dealing with the bull shit

It's country Christian farmers and ranchers living modest vs the fat cat type folks in the city who accepted non Christian beliefs wway back then
KINDA SOUNDS LIKE TODAY

I guess if this is rambling I'm sorry
I'll get to the point

People died for that monument and its part of my heratige because without it people forget where they came from as a black man I'm pissed that a bunch of people wanna destroy my heratige

Also to the black people that is all booty hurt this part is for yall
If you think a bunch of honkeys give 2 shits about a bunch of salves your stupid there was alterior motives..thay didn't care then and they don't care now wake the heck up

We're just a small piece of some fat cats agenda to line his own pocket THEY NEVER LOVED US were blacks come on man

Bash me idgaf maybe it's rambling but who gives a shit I needed to ventflip
 Quoting: blackraven


You're very smart. I bet no one else have thought of those things.
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I am an Indian citizen. Not white, not Indian aryan even (brown skinned south Indian dravidian actually). And let me tell you this is not about racism as they want you to think. This is about removing your history. It is about stealing your pride. George Soros WANTS you to be good little slaves. Granted they may not have the Presidency or the senate but they still do have the democrat controlled local governments.

It is about removing your history - if they can destroy the way you see the history of your fathers, because you feel ashamed, then they can break you down as you cannot look forward with a vision in life. It is about confusing you. So that you may be better subjects who can willingly be controlled. It is about turning you into becoming less fortunate. it is not about emancipating blacks either but rather bringing your way of life down equal with those who previously were less privileged.

They are vilifying your current president exactly because he stands for history and family values.

Democratic party and MSM are all about divide and rule.

Peace and love to you, my beautiful brothers and sisters.
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You understand exactly what is happening. I wish more did. They're erasing black history, too. Maybe not today, but it's coming.
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Hello all

first a little about me , 28yo black male from Texas , I'm a mechanic at a dealership, Avg hard working man who takes care of the wife and kiddos
Any who

I don't watch the news too much so I may or may not have the just of the issue but here goes

1 one mans hero is another mans villan
2 war monuments are earned with blood
3 reguardless of race people need to respect the fact that this is someone's heratige

Maybe I'm stupid but General Robert E Lee and many other deserve respect because anyone who is willing to die for what they believe in deserves respect.

Here are some of my understandings of the reason there was a war of northern aggression lol ( or the southern aggression )

1 slavery wasn't the main reason , I believe it was a weapon used by the north but I could be wrong ( think about it )

2 the south produced a lot in terms of agriculture and then they had high taxes who tvg the south saw little of in terms of representation ( sound like the revolution to me )

3 a lot of the norths businesses didn't have the man power and resources the south had at the time with the help of slavery ( they were just trying to get rich at least they were honest , now places like Enron fuck you behind your back )

4 slaves were a necessity all that work in the fields without modern machines is a cluster fuck , is it a ugly part of history yea sure but I'm glad my ancestors paid the price so I didn't end up in Africa fuck that shit, so I thank my ancestors for making the trip and dealing with the bull shit

It's country Christian farmers and ranchers living modest vs the fat cat type folks in the city who accepted non Christian beliefs wway back then
KINDA SOUNDS LIKE TODAY

I guess if this is rambling I'm sorry
I'll get to the point

People died for that monument and its part of my heratige because without it people forget where they came from as a black man I'm pissed that a bunch of people wanna destroy my heratige

Also to the black people that is all booty hurt this part is for yall
If you think a bunch of honkeys give 2 shits about a bunch of salves your stupid there was alterior motives..thay didn't care then and they don't care now wake the heck up

We're just a small piece of some fat cats agenda to line his own pocket THEY NEVER LOVED US were blacks come on man

Bash me idgaf maybe it's rambling but who gives a shit I needed to ventflip
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Well said, OP!

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That's very honest. Thank you for sharing.

My family did not own slaves. My family was poor as they came, up on lookout mountain between the states of alabama, Tenn, and GA.

My ancestors fought in the civil war not because of slaves but because foreigners were coming and fighting the South. See the North hired foreign mercenaries early on.

They saw the civil war as an invasion.

I heard a lot of stories too, old history, passed down in my family about how General Sherman was so evil, and about how he left everyone to starve. He burnt the area from Chattanooga to Savannah and he didn't care if the homes were union sympathizers or slave owners or what.

He told the soldiers to take any food they could, and burn the gardens. Kill any deer, even if they couldn't use the meat, but they always tried to get the meat back to union troops of course.

Basically many people in the south- civilians, were left with no homes, and no food, and no way to get food. That included the slaves, that were just left with nothing to eat either.

He would send a lot of troops out, and rape was OK. The idea was to make the war be felt so horribly by civilians that the Southern men fighting would feel the strong urge to desert so they could go protect their families and women and children back home.

This is the great Northern Hero. My granny said she'd dig him up just to kill him again. I was also told, repeatedly, that slavery was already going away in the South, that the area around us had turned to sharecroppers, and most of them were coming in from Ireland or poor Southerners were signing up for it. It was working out better than slaves, because they didn't have the social contract with the sharecroppers - they didn't have to feed, clothes, or provide medical care, only a portion of the crops.
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This is the history that has already been lost. My mother told me that the history books lied. I thought she didn't know what she was talking about, but I see it now. I was born in the South and raised in the North. Revisionism removed all of the suffering ordinary people went through and only focused on the rich, hated plantation owners.
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