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Christians and everyone else, do you accept Paul's gospel? It is of Christ | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24505268  United Kingdom09/13/2017 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The gospel ( good news ) of Jesus Christ by which you are saved which also ye are saved,.... It was the means of their salvation, and had been made the power of God unto salvation to them. Salvation is inseparably connected with true faith in Christ as a Saviour, and with a hearty belief of his resurrection from the dead, which is the earnest and pledge of the resurrection of the saints; and because of the certainty of it in the promise of God, through the obedience and death of Christ, and in the faith and hope of believers, which are sure and certain things, they are said to be saved already. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24505268 United Kingdom09/13/2017 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The devil htes the word of God the word of Truth St Paul was given by the Spirit directly from Christ Revelations of the things of God in Christ The mystery of God in full Pauls teachings are from God through the Spirit exalting Christ and showing all true doctrine on various matters the enemy would and was trying to dissemble the church from the head Christ and the Spirit of truth. So the devil really hates st paul the vessel for Gods use |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70687907 United States09/13/2017 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus referred to himself as "the son of man"! Quoting: Anonymous 72784493 That's language straight out of The Book of Enoch which was banned from the Bible. Nope. It is straight from the prophecy of DANIEL. He was claiming dominion over the Earth. Daniel 7:13-14 describes how the "Ancient of Days" (God) gives dominion over the earth to "one like a son of man," who is later explained as standing for "the saints of the Most High" (7:18, 21-22) and "the people of the saints of the Most High" (7:27). |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24505268 United Kingdom09/13/2017 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not where it contradicts Jesus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74884798 Paul is just some guy and is suspect for a number of reasons He has no authority to change or interpret anything. Paul preaches Jesus Christ. What don't you understand? Peter said some of the things paul wrote are difficult to understand but they are understandable and do not contradict The word of God for they are the word of God a d can be understood in context and by the Holy Spirit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75522575 United States09/13/2017 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paulinian Theology. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46911056 They're Paulinians. In life, Paul never ever met Jesus Christ. Jesus said his teachings were not for Gentiles, but Paul revised and extended it to Gentiles after the Crucifixion. Paul bullied Jesus's brother James out to take control of the Jesus Movement. Paul spent 3 years in the desert being taught the gospel of grace from an ascended Christ... probably in the area of Mt. Sinai where Moses received the law for Israel... it's NOT possible to keep the law in this dispensation... the temple was destroyed in 70 AD and the Levitical priesthood scattered... the body of Christ IS GODS heavenly temple on earth, and when we are called home, the 3rd earthly temple will be built, the animal sacrifices will start and the law will be in full force... the age of grace will be over... the age of law and tribulation will commence... Paul is to the body of Christ what Moses was to Israel... a very different message to a very different people with a very different relationship to the Father... Christ COMMANDED the 12 NOT to go to the gentile world... his message was not to them... Israel had to reject Him first. Then, after the full number of gentiles come in, then He deals with Israel again. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75522575 United States09/13/2017 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus selected Paul for every reason. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40968222 Paul preaches only Jesus Christ. Those that have a problem with Paul do not love Jesus Christ. Paul, the Super J*w, preached Christ to all the world of non-J*w gentiles. You do not know better than Jesus or Paul. You believe or you do not. Those who hate Paul do not love Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71371737 They have a problem with Paul. Paul preaches only Jesus Christ. They have a problem with Christ. They never preach Christ. They oppose the one who started preaching Christ. Again, consistently, those who hate Paul do not love Christ. I believe in Jesus Christ. I believe Paul was chosen by Jesus Christ for his testimony, witness and teaching. I believe in the God of Israel. I believe in the God of the Bible. I believe in the Creator of the Universe and everything in it. I believe God Almighty is capable of delivering a Book to us without His Purposes being confounded by the purposes of evil men and I believe that HE does not need YOUR help as if YOU are superior. The people who hate Paul always think a great deal of themselves and their own opinions. Always. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71371737 They always think they know better. Always. It is always Ego. It is always Pride. The people who hate, judge and condemn Paul always believe themselves superior to Paul. It's interesting to think that Believers will all eventually have the chance to meet each other. You believe the the Great and Almighty Creator of the universe and everything in it, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71371737 The One by whom all things were, are and continue can't handle getting a Book to us as He intends... I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71371737 Paul But we preach Christ crucified, unto the J*ws a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; But unto them which are called, both J*ws and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. Paul For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. Paul But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. Paul Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Paul In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; Paul For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Paul That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Paul For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ Paul For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee. Paul |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24505268 United Kingdom09/13/2017 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The new covenant is better than the old And the new has come to fulfill the old a d ao the od, is gone Fading away and was truly faded away by christ jesus a d then by judgment on those who rejected christ and still carried on that old covenant by the illegally and so the maibstay of that covenant the temple was destroyed!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24505268 United Kingdom09/13/2017 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The new covenant is better than the old. And the new has come to fulfill the old And the old is going Fading away and was truly faded away by christ jesus fulfilling it in full then by Gods judgment on those who rejected christ and still carried on that old covenant which was by the illegal!! and so the mainstay of that old covenant the temple was destroyed!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24505268 United Kingdom09/13/2017 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The new covenant is better than the old. And the new has come to fulfill the old And the old is going Fading away and was truly faded away by christ jesus fulfilling it in full then by Gods judgment on those who rejected christ and still carried on that old covenant which was by then illegal!! and so the mainstay of that old covenant the temple was destroyed!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75522575 United States09/13/2017 10:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others. But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. Paul |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75522575 United States09/13/2017 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. For me to write the same things to you is not tedious, but for you it is safe. Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the mutilation! For we are the circumcision, who worship God in the Spirit, rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh, though I also might have confidence in the flesh. If anyone else thinks he may have confidence in the flesh, I more so: circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews; concerning the law, a Pharisee; concerning zeal, persecuting the church; concerning the righteousness which is in the law, blameless. But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ. Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; Paul |
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 User ID: 74149096 United States09/13/2017 10:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paulinian Theology. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46911056 They're Paulinians. In life, Paul never ever met Jesus Christ. Jesus said his teachings were not for Gentiles, but Paul revised and extended it to Gentiles after the Crucifixion. Paul bullied Jesus's brother James out to take control of the Jesus Movement. Paul spent 3 years in the desert being taught the gospel of grace from an ascended Christ... probably in the area of Mt. Sinai where Moses received the law for Israel... it's NOT possible to keep the law in this dispensation... the temple was destroyed in 70 AD and the Levitical priesthood scattered... the body of Christ IS GODS heavenly temple on earth, and when we are called home, the 3rd earthly temple will be built, the animal sacrifices will start and the law will be in full force... the age of grace will be over... the age of law and tribulation will commence... Paul is to the body of Christ what Moses was to Israel... a very different message to a very different people with a very different relationship to the Father... Christ COMMANDED the 12 NOT to go to the gentile world... his message was not to them... Israel had to reject Him first. Then, after the full number of gentiles come in, then He deals with Israel again. Absolutely... a very different, much more intimate relationship than Israel had. Blessings to you my friend freedomsnotfree1 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75522575 United States09/13/2017 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, and be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but SHIT, that I may win Christ, and be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith |
| freedomsnotfree1
User ID: 74149096 United States09/13/2017 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not where it contradicts Jesus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74884798 Paul is just some guy and is suspect for a number of reasons He has no authority to change or interpret anything. Paul preaches Jesus Christ. What don't you understand? Peter said some of the things paul wrote are difficult to understand but they are understandable and do not contradict The word of God for they are the word of God a d can be understood in context and by the Holy Spirit. Once you separate the message to Israel and the message to the gentile world, it ALL falls into place... that's why Paul was looking for rapture and Peter was looking for Tribulation... and they were both right... Paul, and ONLY Paul, was given the title "apositle of the Gentiles"... the body know who they are... we're seeing them in this thread... what a blessing... freedomsnotfree1 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75522575 United States09/13/2017 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | of which I became a minister according to the gift of the grace of God given to me by the effective working of His power. To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ; to the intent that now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places, according to the eternal purpose which He accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord, in whom we have boldness and access with confidence through faith in Him. Paul |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75522575 United States09/13/2017 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it was forbideen for gentiles to be in the covenant of moses Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24505268 That was the law then and is now Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. |
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| Elegant Walnut
User ID: 7697020  Canada09/13/2017 10:59 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Peter said some of the things paul wrote are difficult to understand but they are understandable and do not contradict The word of God for they are the word of God a d can be understood in context and by the Holy Spirit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24505268 That's what "Peter" says in 2 Peter. Did you know 2 Peter is the one of the most disputed books in the canon of scripture? Last Edited by Elegant Walnut on 09/13/2017 10:59 AM |
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| Oddapple
User ID: 72540051 United States09/17/2017 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it takes more than a few words to say clearly, hello just another paleo middle east slaver....oh and if it also involves being a communist under threat of death for having anything of your own....they use you for a mule, they gave you a mule-postle. Seems pretty obvious?  "Man being born his own curse, defeat it not, but live it worse" |
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