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How To Get To Heaven When You Die

 
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Re 20:11 ¶ And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. {hell: or, the grave}
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


There is no place for them because they have rejected God and God owns all things good, therefore, they are not allowed to have access to the good things of God and are cast into the prison created for the devil and his angels. What a horrible fate.
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This is at the final Judgment called The Great White Throne Judgment. Only unbelievers are Judged there. They are cast into the Lake of Fire right afterward. It's not a good thing to be judged at this one. True Born Again Christians will be Judged at the Judgment Seat of Christ, not on their sins, because they are forgiven, but on their works for Jesus to gain Eternal Rewards in Heaven.

2Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
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Please take the time to read this first post if you haven't yet.
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Mr 16:6 And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.
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The Princeton Mixer....
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end This is a true statement...
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‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬
[9] But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, Neither have entered into the heart of man, The things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

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More unscriptural nonsense.

Nobody goes to heaven when they die and they certainly don't go to hell because there is no such place.
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The Bible does NOT teach "going to heaven when you die" !!

When you die are are dead, period.

The ONLY immortality the Bible promises is the physical resurrection of the dead in Christ at the second coming of Jesus Christ.



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Correct.
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The Bible absolutely teaches going to heaven when you die. Incorrect. Paul said to be absent from the Body is to be present with the Lord. Where is the Lord, I forgot? Oh yeah, He is in heaven..
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The Bible absolutely teaches going to heaven when you die. Incorrect. Paul said to be absent from the Body is to be present with the Lord. Where is the Lord, I forgot? Oh yeah, He is in heaven..
 Quoting: Paddington


This verse is rarely quoted correctly and part of the reason most misunderstand it. This is what it actually says.


2Co 5:8  We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, AND TO BE present with the Lord.


There's a huge difference between 'is' and 'and'. Just the fact of being absent or separated from our bodies, does not automatically equate with being instantaneously with the Lord.

First we DIE and thereby become absent from or separated from our bodies. They decay back into the dust of the ground. But some time AFTER our death we are taken home to be with the Lord.


Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.



Notice that all the DEAD in Christ rise at the SAME TIME, at His presence in the air. But, not all of the DEAD in Christ died at the same time. Hence they were not at home with the Lord at the very time of their death.
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LIST OF CHRISTIAN CHARITIES IN THE UNITED STATES:

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The Bible absolutely teaches going to heaven when you die. Incorrect. Paul said to be absent from the Body is to be present with the Lord. Where is the Lord, I forgot? Oh yeah, He is in heaven..
 Quoting: Paddington


This verse is rarely quoted correctly and part of the reason most misunderstand it. This is what it actually says.


2Co 5:8  We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, AND TO BE present with the Lord.


There's a huge difference between 'is' and 'and'. Just the fact of being absent or separated from our bodies, does not automatically equate with being instantaneously with the Lord.

First we DIE and thereby become absent from or separated from our bodies. They decay back into the dust of the ground. But some time AFTER our death we are taken home to be with the Lord.


Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.



Notice that all the DEAD in Christ rise at the SAME TIME, at His presence in the air. But, not all of the DEAD in Christ died at the same time. Hence they were not at home with the Lord at the very time of their death.
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When Jesus Christ Ascended, where did He go? Heaven

‭‭Acts‬ ‭1:9‭-‬11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[9] "And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. [10] And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; [11] which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

Paul desired to die and be in heaven with Christ"


‭‭Philippians‬ ‭1:23‭-‬24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[23]" For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: [24] nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you."

People in heaven:

‭‭Revelation‬ ‭19:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[1] "And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God":

When we die, a true believer's soul departs and goes to be with the Lord in heaven. When the rapture comes, his sould goes back into his body and is resurrected into a new body.

Then those who are alive and remain will be translated and go to be with the Lord in heaven.

When Paul said that to be absent from the Body is to be present with the Lord, he meant right away, not soul sleep. Paul was already in heaven before:

‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭12:2‭-‬4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[2] "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. [3] And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) [4] how that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

People, their soul when they die go immediately to heaven or hell. They are resurrected later. It's that simple. The story of the rich man and Lazarus is another example.
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The Bible absolutely teaches going to heaven when you die. Incorrect. Paul said to be absent from the Body is to be present with the Lord. Where is the Lord, I forgot? Oh yeah, He is in heaven..
 Quoting: Paddington


This verse is rarely quoted correctly and part of the reason most misunderstand it. This is what it actually says.


2Co 5:8  We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, AND TO BE present with the Lord.


There's a huge difference between 'is' and 'and'. Just the fact of being absent or separated from our bodies, does not automatically equate with being instantaneously with the Lord.

First we DIE and thereby become absent from or separated from our bodies. They decay back into the dust of the ground. But some time AFTER our death we are taken home to be with the Lord.


Th 4:15  For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 
1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.



Notice that all the DEAD in Christ rise at the SAME TIME, at His presence in the air. But, not all of the DEAD in Christ died at the same time. Hence they were not at home with the Lord at the very time of their death.
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When Jesus Christ Ascended, where did He go? Heaven

‭‭Acts‬ ‭1:9‭-‬11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[9] "And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. [10] And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; [11] which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

Paul desired to die and be in heaven with Christ"


‭‭Philippians‬ ‭1:23‭-‬24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[23]" For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: [24] nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you."

People in heaven:

‭‭Revelation‬ ‭19:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[1] "And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God":

When we die, a true believer's soul departs and goes to be with the Lord in heaven. When the rapture comes, his sould goes back into his body and is resurrected into a new body.

Then those who are alive and remain will be translated and go to be with the Lord in heaven.

When Paul said that to be absent from the Body is to be present with the Lord, he meant right away, not soul sleep. Paul was already in heaven before:

‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭12:2‭-‬4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[2] "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven. [3] And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) [4] how that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

People, their soul when they die go immediately to heaven or hell. They are resurrected later. It's that simple. The story of the rich man and Lazarus is another example.
 Quoting: Paddington


The fact that you misquoted 2Cor 5:8 AGAIN after I just got done explaining it and then brought up the damnable heresy of a Christian 'hell' tells me you are fully indoctrinated with Christendom's unscriptural doctrines.

Let me ask you this.

Why did Jesus only speak in parables to the people?
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Wait a second, because I don't believe in the "soul sleep" lie, that's a damnable heracy? What cult do you belong to?
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Wait a second, because I don't believe in the "soul sleep" lie, that's a damnable heracy? What cult do you belong to?

Of course heaven and hell are Scriptural. Don't you read the Bible?
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All total and utter bullshit..
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Wait a second, because I don't believe in the "soul sleep" lie, that's a damnable heracy? What cult do you belong to?
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Perhaps you have a reading comprehension problem.

Read my post again slowly and carefully.
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Wait a second, because I don't believe in the "soul sleep" lie, that's a damnable heracy? What cult do you belong to?

Of course heaven and hell are Scriptural. Don't you read the Bible?
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You didn't answer my question and I believe the reason why is your answer will reveal that you are in the cult of christendom and don't believe the scriptures at all.

Christians SAY they do but actually their doctrines and teachings take precedence over the scriptures.
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I HAVE answered your question and I have proven through Scripture that you are in a cult that doesn't believe the Scriptures and adds to them. Christians go to heaven, the unsaved go to hell. Scripture is clear. There is no such thing as soul sleep. Stop spreading lies and false accusations.
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I HAVE answered your question and I have proven through Scripture that you are in a cult that doesn't believe the Scriptures and adds to them. Christians go to heaven, the unsaved go to hell. Scripture is clear. There is no such thing as soul sleep. Stop spreading lies and false accusations.
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You've just revealed to everyone reading this thread that you have a reading comprehension problem or are an outright liar or both.
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I HAVE answered your question and I have proven through Scripture that you are in a cult that doesn't believe the Scriptures and adds to them. Christians go to heaven, the unsaved go to hell. Scripture is clear. There is no such thing as soul sleep. Stop spreading lies and false accusations.
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You've just revealed to everyone reading this thread that you have a reading comprehension problem or are an outright liar or both.
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I HAVE answered your question and I have proven through Scripture that you are in a cult that doesn't believe the Scriptures and adds to them. Christians go to heaven, the unsaved go to hell. Scripture is clear. There is no such thing as soul sleep. Stop spreading lies and false accusations.
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You've just revealed to everyone reading this thread that you have a reading comprehension problem or are an outright liar or both.
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FALSE. You have and you preach false Doctrine. Christians do go to heaven. There is a hell. Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. Salvation is only found by Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ alone and His Death, Burial & Resurrection.
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The Church is the Bride of Christ. The true Church, is not a Denomination. It is made up of true believers who have placed their faith in Christ alone for Salvation, believing that He died and rose again, shedding His blood as a Sacrifice for our sins.
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I HAVE answered your question and I have proven through Scripture that you are in a cult that doesn't believe the Scriptures and adds to them. Christians go to heaven, the unsaved go to hell. Scripture is clear. There is no such thing as soul sleep. Stop spreading lies and false accusations.
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You've just revealed to everyone reading this thread that you have a reading comprehension problem or are an outright liar or both.
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FALSE. You have and you preach false Doctrine. Christians do go to heaven. There is a hell. Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. Salvation is only found by Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ alone and His Death, Burial & Resurrection.
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1)You did NOT answer the question.
2)No one is in heaven YET.
3)There is no such thing as hell.
4)I said the Christian hell is a damnable heresy.
5)Christendom's doctrines and teachings take precedent over the scriptures.

The rest of what you posted is scriptural and of course I agree with that but most of Christendom's doctrines are NOT scriptural and that's a fact.
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The WORST false doctrine bar none is their damnable heresy of hell.





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