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How To Get To Heaven When You Die

 
Paddington  (OP)

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The WORST false doctrine bar none is their damnable heresy of hell.
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I see. So if I show through Scripture that hell is real, God will send me to hell for teaching false Doctrine? Interesting. You are in a cult. Your words don't scare me because I know the Scriptures. What do you think the Bible is talking about when it says that those not written in the book of life are cast I to the Lake of Fire?

What do you think Jesus is referring to when He says "where their worm dieth not And the fire is not quenched"?

Read this first post
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The WORST false doctrine bar none is their damnable heresy of hell.
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I see. So if I show through Scripture that hell is real, God will send me to hell for teaching false Doctrine? Interesting. You are in a cult. Your words don't scare me because I know the Scriptures. What do you think the Bible is talking about when it says that those not written in the book of life are cast I to the Lake of Fire?

What do you think Jesus is referring to when He says "where their worm dieth not And the fire is not quenched"?

Read this first post
 Quoting: Paddington


Typical logic straight out of christendom's cult with their square circles. It is you that is in a cult. I'm not the one dressing up once a week attending some building to chant the same phrases over and over.

If there's no such thing as a christian hell (there isn't) then it's not possible be sent there by teaching that false doctrine.

You do not know or even believe the scriptures because your christian teachings and unscriptural doctrines take precedence over the scriptures.

I'll answer your questions when you answer my first question which you conveniently keep avoiding. I believe you won't answer it because if you did it will shatter many of the false doctrines you hold so dearly.
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The WORST false doctrine bar none is their damnable heresy of hell.
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I see. So if I show through Scripture that hell is real, God will send me to hell for teaching false Doctrine? Interesting. You are in a cult. Your words don't scare me because I know the Scriptures. What do you think the Bible is talking about when it says that those not written in the book of life are cast I to the Lake of Fire?

What do you think Jesus is referring to when He says "where their worm dieth not And the fire is not quenched"?

Read this first post
 Quoting: Paddington


Typical logic straight out of christendom's cult with their square circles. It is you that is in a cult. I'm not the one dressing up once a week attending some building to chant the same phrases over and over.

If there's no such thing as a christian hell (there isn't) then it's not possible be sent there by teaching that false doctrine.

You do not know or even believe the scriptures because your christian teachings and unscriptural doctrines take precedence over the scriptures.

I'll answer your questions when you answer my first question which you conveniently keep avoiding. I believe you won't answer it because if you did it will shatter many of the false doctrines you hold so dearly.
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I follow the Bible, God's Word. You follow your cult. There is a hell amd Jesus speaks more about hell than He does heaven. I believe the Scripture and if you did you would believe in heaven and hell. If you actually had a question I would gladly answer it, but you keep avoiding telling me what it is. You are a deceiver.
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I follow the Bible, God's Word. You follow your cult. There is a hell amd Jesus speaks more about hell than He does heaven. I believe the Scripture and if you did you would believe in heaven and hell. If you actually had a question I would gladly answer it, but you keep avoiding telling me what it is. You are a deceiver.
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^^^^I believe this may be a bot I've been interacting with but in the off chance it is not, I'll respond.


You do NOT follow the scriptures, you follow the teachings and doctrines of your cult. The fact that you parroted this untrue statement "Jesus speaks more about hell than He does heaven" proves it once again.

First of all, Jesus never once talked about a pagan Egyptian hell but even if you count the times 'hell' is mistranslated, here is the actual count in all of the scriptures.

Hell 54 times
Heaven 551 times

Jesus is the Author of ALL the scriptures but if you go by just the NT scriptures this is the actual count.

Hell 23 times
Heaven 221 times

Even if you only count the times in the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John).

Hell 15 times
Heaven 128 times

Who's the deceiver now? It's a rhetorical question, don't bother answering that one.


I am the only one interacting with you since 11/05/23 Post #103337232 when I corrected your misquote of IICor5:8. I have a dynamic ISP so my user ID changes all the time.

You need to go back to that post and start reading my responses from that point. In doing that you will find the question that I originally asked you. A bot will not be able to accomplish this task but a human should be able to.

Should you do this, I predict you will deny what the scriptures say and fall back on your cult's unscriptural teachings and doctrines instead.

For the record I use the scriptures and the scriptures alone. I follow NO man or group of people or belong to any of Christendom's institutional churches or ANY other religion for that matter. They are ALL cultist traditions of men religions. To keep saying I'M in a cult is quite laughable as it's not possible to be in a cult with only yourself(me) as the leader and member. Look in the mirror. There is where you will find the real cultist.
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You must believe, believe, believe.

You must pray, pray, pray.

You must be afraid, be afraid, be afraid.
Just don't make anything up.
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I follow the Bible, God's Word. You follow your cult. There is a hell amd Jesus speaks more about hell than He does heaven. I believe the Scripture and if you did you would believe in heaven and hell. If you actually had a question I would gladly answer it, but you keep avoiding telling me what it is. You are a deceiver.
 Quoting: Paddington


^^^^I believe this may be a bot I've been interacting with but in the off chance it is not, I'll respond.


You do NOT follow the scriptures, you follow the teachings and doctrines of your cult. The fact that you parroted this untrue statement "Jesus speaks more about hell than He does heaven" proves it once again.

First of all, Jesus never once talked about a pagan Egyptian hell but even if you count the times 'hell' is mistranslated, here is the actual count in all of the scriptures.

Hell 54 times
Heaven 551 times

Jesus is the Author of ALL the scriptures but if you go by just the NT scriptures this is the actual count.

Hell 23 times
Heaven 221 times

Even if you only count the times in the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John).

Hell 15 times
Heaven 128 times

Who's the deceiver now? It's a rhetorical question, don't bother answering that one.


I am the only one interacting with you since 11/05/23 Post #103337232 when I corrected your misquote of IICor5:8. I have a dynamic ISP so my user ID changes all the time.

You need to go back to that post and start reading my responses from that point. In doing that you will find the question that I originally asked you. A bot will not be able to accomplish this task but a human should be able to.

Should you do this, I predict you will deny what the scriptures say and fall back on your cult's unscriptural teachings and doctrines instead.

For the record I use the scriptures and the scriptures alone. I follow NO man or group of people or belong to any of Christendom's institutional churches or ANY other religion for that matter. They are ALL cultist traditions of men religions. To keep saying I'M in a cult is quite laughable as it's not possible to be in a cult with only yourself(me) as the leader and member. Look in the mirror. There is where you will find the real cultist.
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I am not the one in the cult YOU are. I reject your 'count' of the number of times you say heaven and hell are mentioned. The OT doesn't talk about the hell of eternal torment that Jesus talks about in the NT. So you admit that hell is in the Bible and then you deny that it exists? Did your cult leader teach you that? You don't know the Bible. Your only reason for being here is to try to steer people away from coming to the knowledge of the truth of the Gospel of Grace that saves. Those Who do such things are the ones who receive the greater damnation. The lawyers in Christ's day were doing the same exact thing as you are currently doing.

‭‭Luke‬ ‭11:52‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[52] "Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered."


You don't know the Bible. If you did, you would know that heaven and hell are both real.
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I believe
I pray
I am NOT afraid because I have Christ
Salvation is by Grace through Faith in Jesus Christ alone, believing that He died and rose again, shedding His blood as payment for our sins.

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I follow the Bible, God's Word. You follow your cult. There is a hell amd Jesus speaks more about hell than He does heaven. I believe the Scripture and if you did you would believe in heaven and hell. If you actually had a question I would gladly answer it, but you keep avoiding telling me what it is. You are a deceiver.
 Quoting: Paddington


^^^^I believe this may be a bot I've been interacting with but in the off chance it is not, I'll respond.


You do NOT follow the scriptures, you follow the teachings and doctrines of your cult. The fact that you parroted this untrue statement "Jesus speaks more about hell than He does heaven" proves it once again.

First of all, Jesus never once talked about a pagan Egyptian hell but even if you count the times 'hell' is mistranslated, here is the actual count in all of the scriptures.

Hell 54 times
Heaven 551 times

Jesus is the Author of ALL the scriptures but if you go by just the NT scriptures this is the actual count.

Hell 23 times
Heaven 221 times

Even if you only count the times in the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John).

Hell 15 times
Heaven 128 times

Who's the deceiver now? It's a rhetorical question, don't bother answering that one.


I am the only one interacting with you since 11/05/23 Post #103337232 when I corrected your misquote of IICor5:8. I have a dynamic ISP so my user ID changes all the time.

You need to go back to that post and start reading my responses from that point. In doing that you will find the question that I originally asked you. A bot will not be able to accomplish this task but a human should be able to.

Should you do this, I predict you will deny what the scriptures say and fall back on your cult's unscriptural teachings and doctrines instead.

For the record I use the scriptures and the scriptures alone. I follow NO man or group of people or belong to any of Christendom's institutional churches or ANY other religion for that matter. They are ALL cultist traditions of men religions. To keep saying I'M in a cult is quite laughable as it's not possible to be in a cult with only yourself(me) as the leader and member. Look in the mirror. There is where you will find the real cultist.
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I am not the one in the cult YOU are. I reject your 'count' of the number of times you say heaven and hell are mentioned. The OT doesn't talk about the hell of eternal torment that Jesus talks about in the NT. So you admit that hell is in the Bible and then you deny that it exists? Did your cult leader teach you that? You don't know the Bible. Your only reason for being here is to try to steer people away from coming to the knowledge of the truth of the Gospel of Grace that saves. Those Who do such things are the ones who receive the greater damnation. The lawyers in Christ's day were doing the same exact thing as you are currently doing.

‭‭Luke‬ ‭11:52‬ ‭KJV‬‬

[52] "Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered."


You don't know the Bible. If you did, you would know that heaven and hell are both real.
 Quoting: Paddington


You did not acknowledge a thing I said and you failed at the task and thus never answered the question therefore I conclude you are a bot.
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Or you could just be mentally challenged which is a real possibility seeing as you CERTAINLY have a reading comprehension problem.
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So you saying a Buddhist monk living in a monestery in a perfect harmony with others will not go to what you call a heaven?
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So you saying a Buddhist monk living in a monestery in a perfect harmony with others will not go to what you call a heaven?
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I'm almost certain op is a bot.

It doesn't comprehend simple basic sentences, keeps twisting what I said into something else and could not perform the simple task I asked it.
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So you saying a Buddhist monk living in a monestery in a perfect harmony with others will not go to what you call a heaven?
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What does the monk believe?

Does he believe the Gospel?
[the proscribed way of salvation, according to the Almighty]
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Oh and the bot only responds after roughly 24 hours even if you respond immediately to one of its posts.

Watch, you won't see it respond until late tomorrow.
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The WORST false doctrine bar none is their damnable heresy of hell.
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I see. So if I show through Scripture that hell is real, God will send me to hell for teaching false Doctrine? Interesting. You are in a cult. Your words don't scare me because I know the Scriptures. What do you think the Bible is talking about when it says that those not written in the book of life are cast I to the Lake of Fire?

What do you think Jesus is referring to when He says "where their worm dieth not And the fire is not quenched"?
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Damn straight.

Good job, Paddy.
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The WORST false doctrine bar none is their damnable heresy of hell.
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I see. So if I show through Scripture that hell is real, God will send me to hell for teaching false Doctrine? Interesting. You are in a cult. Your words don't scare me because I know the Scriptures. What do you think the Bible is talking about when it says that those not written in the book of life are cast I to the Lake of Fire?

What do you think Jesus is referring to when He says "where their worm dieth not And the fire is not quenched"?
 Quoting: Paddington



Damn straight.

Good job, Paddy.
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^^^^^Another cultist of christendom who doesn't understand the scriptures or even simple logic or basic sentences.
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Scripture is the Word of God, NOT you or your cult. Prove me wrong though Scripture that your cult is true. I will wait ..
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Scripture is the Word of God, NOT you or your cult. Prove me wrong though Scripture that your cult is true. I will wait ..
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Of course scripture is the word of God. YOU follow Christendom's teachings and doctrines and NOT the scriptures therefore it is YOU who is in a cult.
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Scripture is the Word of God, NOT you or your cult. Prove me wrong though Scripture that your cult is true. I will wait ..
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The fact that you said "I reject your 'count' of the number of times you say heaven and hell are mentioned" in your previous post proves you don't follow the scriptures because those numbers that I posted are absolutely accurate and anyone can check that out for themselves.

Basically you just indirectly admitted to rejecting the scriptures.
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Scripture is the Word of God, NOT you or your cult. Prove me wrong though Scripture that your cult is true. I will wait ..
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The fact that you said "I reject your 'count' of the number of times you say heaven and hell are mentioned" in your previous post proves you don't follow the scriptures because those numbers that I posted are absolutely accurate and anyone can check that out for themselves.

Basically you just indirectly admitted to rejecting the scriptures.
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And now we wait for the bot to respond in 24 hours or so.

lmao
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Is that you? You don't know the Bible, yet you try to act like you do. That makes you a false Minister. I think I know who you are and if you want to come here are bump this thread for me, that's fine. Thanks!
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Is that you? You don't know the Bible, yet you try to act like you do. That makes you a false Minister. I think I know who you are and if you want to come here are bump this thread for me, that's fine. Thanks!
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You just admitted to rejecting the bible who are you trying to kid?
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I don't reject the Bible, YOU do. You don't even know the Bible. If you did, you would know that heaven and hell are real places. Thanks for the bump.

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I don't reject the Bible, YOU do. You don't even know the Bible. If you did, you would know that heaven and hell are real places. Thanks for the bump.
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You said Jesus spoke more about hell than He did about heaven and I just proved to you BY THE BIBLE that that is a false statement and you rejected it thus you reject the scriptures and go by what you've been taught instead.
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No, you tried to prove your point through false numbers. So, you are that petty that this is your hill to die on? You don't know the Bible.
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Here, let me break it down for you as if you are a child because it seems you have a very serious reading comprehension problem.


You said (that's you, Paddington)


"There is a hell and Jesus speaks more about hell than He does heaven."


To which I replied (that's me)


"First of all, Jesus never once talked about a pagan Egyptian hell but even if you count the times 'hell' is mistranslated, here is the actual count in all of the scriptures.

Hell 54 times
Heaven 551 times

Jesus is the Author of ALL the scriptures but if you go by just the NT scriptures this is the actual count.

Hell 23 times
Heaven 221 times

Even if you only count the times in the gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John).

Hell 15 times
Heaven 128 times"


to which you then replied


"I reject your 'count' of the number of times you say heaven and hell are mentioned."


It's not 'MY' count, It's not what 'I say', it's what the bible says so you are not rejecting me, you are rejecting the bible.
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No, you tried to prove your point through false numbers. So, you are that petty that this is your hill to die on? You don't know the Bible.
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Those are NOT false numbers and now you are just being deceitful or willfully ignorant.

ANYBODY can check those numbers and see that they are accurate but apparently you are not willing or able to do that.
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No, you tried to prove your point through false numbers. So, you are that petty that this is your hill to die on? You don't know the Bible.
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Those are NOT false numbers and now you are just being deceitful or willfully ignorant.

ANYBODY can check those numbers and see that they are accurate but apparently you are not willing or able to do that.
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The point to this is if you are obviously wrong about this single issue and won't even admit to that, then it will be next to impossible to show you that you are wrong on MOST of the other doctrines you cling to so dearly.

Your belief system IS NOT SCRIPTURAL plain and simple.
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First of all, you don't know my belief system. Secondly, it is very Scriptural. Read this first post, it is all based on Scripture. All you can do is say "It's not true, it's not true". You offer no Scriptural basis for your cult beliefs. All you can do is deny, deny, deny. Do you understand that you will be judged by God for trying to lead people away from His great Salvation? This isn't a joke. Why are you wasting your energy on something that is going to bring yourself judgement? If you have a Biblical point you would like to make, then use Scripture and make it. Otherwise, buzz off. I suspect the issue with you is that you don't know Scripture, so you just want to be a fly buzzing around, trying to distract from the reason for this post.
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Please take the time to read this first post if your haven't yet.
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First of all, you don't know my belief system. Secondly, it is very Scriptural. Read this first post, it is all based on Scripture. All you can do is say "It's not true, it's not true". You offer no Scriptural basis for your cult beliefs. All you can do is deny, deny, deny. Do you understand that you will be judged by God for trying to lead people away from His great Salvation? This isn't a joke. Why are you wasting your energy on something that is going to bring yourself judgement? If you have a Biblical point you would like to make, then use Scripture and make it. Otherwise, buzz off. I suspect the issue with you is that you don't know Scripture, so you just want to be a fly buzzing around, trying to distract from the reason for this post.
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I do know your belief system because you have revealed it. You parrot the same unscriptural nonsense about free willism and hell that most in Christendom does and that's because you trust your Christian teachings/doctrines over scripture.

You won't even acknowledge that Jesus did NOT speak more about hell than heaven even when I pointed out the actual numbers. Instead you said you reject it.

There is no such thing as a Christian hell where God is going to send 100+ billion people (most of humanity) to suffer and scream in agony in literal fire for trillions and trillions and trillions of centuries and beyond for all eternity. That is NOT in the scriptures.

The word 'hell' should not even be in our English translations of the bible or any translation for that matter. Neither will you find the words forever, or everlasting or eternity anywhere in the original languages of the scriptures and that is a fact.

Sheol is not hell, hades is not hell, and Gehenna is not hell. Olam and aion/aionian does not and never meant forever or everlasting or eternity.

The only thing that's scriptural in your first post are the bible verses you quoted. Your comments are not.

There is no hell (there will be a lake of fire but its purpose and duration is not what Christendom teaches), you can NOT get yourself saved by your fictitious 'free will' by uttering some sentences, and when you die you have no conscious knowledge of anything until the resurrection of the DEAD occurs when Christ returns.

All of this can be shown from the scriptures and the scriptures alone but you are firmly rooted in your cult of Christendom so for you, their teachings and doctrines take precedence over the scriptures.

Until you AT LEAST admit that you were wrong about Jesus speaking more about hell than heaven then to continue on with any other matter will be an exercise in futility.

Oh and for the record, you never answered my original question but don't even bother at this point.





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