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Is the world ready for lots of miracles? I mean REAL ones…

 
FearNot

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Cow eats green grass and makes white milk,thats a miricle.

We are alive,and this is a miricle.

what more do you want?.
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We are immortal souls, and we KNOW THAT, that is a miracle.

Our consciousness is completly changed in the blink of the eye, that is a miracle.

We extend our hand (love) to a brother, we provide connection (bridge) for him to his higher self, this is a miracle.

you wanna more?
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hf

By the way, I have always enjoyed your posts Blue. Thanks
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hugs Thank you Cherished One. ^.^
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we have no choice. We will handle the truth.

how it will affect you, is another story.
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hf

By the way, I have always enjoyed your posts Blue. Thanks

hugs Thank you Cherished One. ^.^
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No problem love, but really it is us whom you have bless with your own live experiences.

Fearnot… good to see you. I have enjoyed your posts over time as well friend, thank you.
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No problem love, but really it is us whom you have bless with your own live experiences.

Fearnot… good to see you. I have enjoyed your posts over time as well friend, thank you.
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No, I thank you Sir. You have been a propultion for my laboratory for a while now.
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It would be nice to think that seeing miracles will have the same effect on a corporate CEO for example as years of suffering has had on an impoverished person who has come to know God as their only solace during hard times.

Unfortunately I think that this is precisely the reason miracles rarely occur. Miracles are an external manifestation that equivocate to an individual winning the lottery being seen as a miracle. It will neither strengthen faith (maybe at a go to church on Sunday superficial level) nor character.
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I don't know about that... If someone reaches out their hand and stops a taxi from running over a child in the street, I think that would qualify for a miracle and it has nothing to do with money... There are all kinds of miracles...
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No problem love, but really it is us whom you have bless with your own live experiences.

Fearnot… good to see you. I have enjoyed your posts over time as well friend, thank you.

No, I thank you Sir. You have been a propultion for my laboratory for a while now.
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Oh believe me friend, it has been a glorious experience with you all and I’m very thankful for all of you.
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...do remember my agreement with everyone when having these little conversations. There is no judgment on my end of things nor any expectations on my part. You are free to believe what you wish.

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FearNot

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Miracles hapend all the time, everywhere.
Miracle is really all there is.
I do not know why I had urge to post that, but here it is, as strong as it sound.
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Miracles hapend all the time, everywhere.
Miracle is really all there is.
I do not know why I had urge to post that, but here it is, as strong as it sound.
 Quoting: FearNot


Agreed friend





To help some of the others

The miracles we are talking about folks are not the normal day to day one’s, which God forbid anyone speak less of. We all know this friends and though I do hate putting a “size” on what we are talking about here, well, you get the point I hope.
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...do remember my agreement with everyone when having these little conversations. There is no judgment on my end of things nor any expectations on my part. You are free to believe what you wish.

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It would be nice to think that seeing miracles will have the same effect on a corporate CEO for example as years of suffering has had on an impoverished person who has come to know God as their only solace during hard times.

Unfortunately I think that this is precisely the reason miracles rarely occur. Miracles are an external manifestation that equivocate to an individual winning the lottery being seen as a miracle. It will neither strengthen faith (maybe at a go to church on Sunday superficial level) nor character.



I don't know about that... If someone reaches out their hand and stops a taxi from running over a child in the street, I think that would qualify for a miracle and it has nothing to do with money... There are all kinds of miracles...
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I never said they only had to do with money. The idea I'm trying to get across is that one-of events shouldn't and probably can't act as a foundation for our faith. For foundation we should talk to the homeless man with a clear stare who says God bless you when we give him a coin (have you noticed how many say this?)

To me a miracle is something that happens that goes outside of our normal causal expectations. When we are toddlers we attach causal relations between discrete events to make the world around us more understandable, eventually toddlers get so good at it, they can process most or all of the events going around them by only processing a small number of the discrete events and tying them together with the cause-and-effect assumption. A miracle breaks this.

So although I think the birth of a child, a sunset, a sunrise, a bird's song, etc. are beautiful, I wouldn't qualify them as a miracle because they don't break our causal patterns.
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Re: Is the world ready for lots of miracles? I mean REAL ones…
Cow eats green grass and makes white milk,thats a miricle.

We are alive,and this is a miricle.

what more do you want?.

We are immortal souls, and we KNOW THAT, that is a miracle.

Our consciousness is completly changed in the blink of the eye, that is a miracle.

We extend our hand (love) to a brother, we provide connection (bridge) for him to his higher self, this is a miracle.

you wanna more?
 Quoting: FearNot


Hate to disagree with such an agreeable fellow, but our souls are not immortal. At least, not yet.
Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

Here in America - in GOD we still trust...
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God.
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Re: Is the world ready for lots of miracles? I mean REAL ones…
I have a question. Would anyone really recognise a miracle when/if it happened?
Or would it be passed off as a hoax?
There are so many people who organise hoaxs and pass them off as a real miracle.
So how would we truly know?
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Listen to your heart instead of your brain...
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Re: Is the world ready for lots of miracles? I mean REAL ones…
It would be nice to think that seeing miracles will have the same effect on a corporate CEO for example as years of suffering has had on an impoverished person who has come to know God as their only solace during hard times.

Unfortunately I think that this is precisely the reason miracles rarely occur. Miracles are an external manifestation that equivocate to an individual winning the lottery being seen as a miracle. It will neither strengthen faith (maybe at a go to church on Sunday superficial level) nor character.



I don't know about that... If someone reaches out their hand and stops a taxi from running over a child in the street, I think that would qualify for a miracle and it has nothing to do with money... There are all kinds of miracles...


I never said they only had to do with money. The idea I'm trying to get across is that one-of events shouldn't and probably can't act as a foundation for our faith. For foundation we should talk to the homeless man with a clear stare who says God bless you when we give him a coin (have you noticed how many say this?)

To me a miracle is something that happens that goes outside of our normal causal expectations. When we are toddlers we attach causal relations between discrete events to make the world around us more understandable, eventually toddlers get so good at it, they can process most or all of the events going around them by only processing a small number of the discrete events and tying them together with the cause-and-effect assumption. A miracle breaks this.

So although I think the birth of a child, a sunset, a sunrise, a bird's song, etc. are beautiful, I wouldn't qualify them as a miracle because they don't break our causal patterns.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 186678


Yes friend...you have the right idea.

When the supernatural becomes natural, normal to all is what we are talking about here friends.Now I know to many folks this is a radical idea to say the least...but it is what it is friends.
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I have a question. Would anyone really recognise a miracle when/if it happened?
Or would it be passed off as a hoax?
There are so many people who organise hoaxs and pass them off as a real miracle.
So how would we truly know?




Listen to your heart instead of your brain...
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Rawr! Good answer. :nekowink:
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Re: Is the world ready for lots of miracles? I mean REAL ones…
Cow eats green grass and makes white milk,thats a miricle.

We are alive,and this is a miricle.

what more do you want?.

We are immortal souls, and we KNOW THAT, that is a miracle.

Our consciousness is completly changed in the blink of the eye, that is a miracle.

We extend our hand (love) to a brother, we provide connection (bridge) for him to his higher self, this is a miracle.

you wanna more?


Hate to disagree with such an agreeable fellow, but our souls are not immortal. At least, not yet.
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I disagree completely... Just because you do not merge with your spirit does not mean the soul is not immortal. It means that you as a merged being will not go on forever. Read the Emerald Tablets of Thoth. He points out when he visits death that his soul is there with many others and he could tell his own apart from the others. Your Ka will not continue unless you merge with your spirit...Doesn't mean the mother is not immortal...
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Re: Is the world ready for lots of miracles? I mean REAL ones…
Cow eats green grass and makes white milk,thats a miricle.

We are alive,and this is a miricle.

what more do you want?.

We are immortal souls, and we KNOW THAT, that is a miracle.

Our consciousness is completly changed in the blink of the eye, that is a miracle.

We extend our hand (love) to a brother, we provide connection (bridge) for him to his higher self, this is a miracle.

you wanna more?


Hate to disagree with such an agreeable fellow, but our souls are not immortal. At least, not yet.
 Quoting: Country

Thanks, Country;

What is your understanding of difference between soul and spirit? Perhaps if I would use a spirit instead of soul....
"Discover your divinity, find your unique talent, serve humanity with it and you can generate all the wealth you want."
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>>>Thanks, Country;

What is your understanding of difference between soul and spirit? Perhaps if I would use a spirit instead of soul....<<<


I personally believe the spirit and soul are one.

We (our souls) have lived/existed since GOD made us.

Remember in the Bible where Jesus say "Fear not the ones that can kill the body but fear Him that can kill the soul." (paraphrased)

If our souls were immortal now, they could not be killed, even by GOD.
Gal 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

Here in America - in GOD we still trust...
Be silent! Be patient! Be quiet!
Be Still! - And know that He is God.
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>>>Thanks, Country;

What is your understanding of difference between soul and spirit? Perhaps if I would use a spirit instead of soul....<<<


I personally believe the spirit and soul are one.

We (our souls) have lived/existed since GOD made us.

Remember in the Bible where Jesus say "Fear not the ones that can kill the body but fear Him that can kill the soul." (paraphrased)

If our souls were immortal now, they could not be killed, even by GOD.
 Quoting: Country

Thank you, Country.

We do not have equal points of view. So we need to agree to disagree.
I do not fear God anymore.
I AM alive for ethernity, and I am used to be called demented because of that believe.
I am ok with that.
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okee dokee then - I agree to disagree.
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Ok, we are gonna see some miracles.
Oftenly, when I think about miracles I think about superpowers.
Afterall, not ordinary abilities of cure might be considered a miracle, for example.

So, after thinking about it a little bit my question is:
What can be considered a miracle?
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Ok, we are gonna see some miracles.
Oftenly, when I think about miracles I think about superpowers.
Afterall, not ordinary abilities of cure might be considered a miracle, for example.

So, after thinking about it a little bit my question is:
What can be considered a miracle?
 Quoting: Gunslinger


Quote...
What can be considered a miracle?

Well, all I can tell you friend is that you will know. I know that’s a vague answer for some, but it is something you will have to experience if you haven’t before. What will happen is they will become common place, happen more often and will become quite normal to all.

In other words the supernatural will become natural, normal to all.
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...do remember my agreement with everyone when having these little conversations. There is no judgment on my end of things nor any expectations on my part. You are free to believe what you wish.

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Hm, so I suppose geniality won't be a priviledge of few anymore?
And thinking neutral and focusing on the bad side, rare diseases will spead like flu?

Since a miracle it's something not ordinary doesn't mean that only good things will happen from that, right?
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Hm, so I suppose geniality won't be a priviledge of few anymore?
And thinking neutral and focusing on the bad side, rare diseases will spead like flu?

Since a miracle it's something not ordinary doesn't mean that only good things will happen from that, right?
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Quote...Since a miracle it's something not ordinary doesn't mean that only good things will happen from that, right?

You are correct my friend, thats the other side of the coin....but we really don't know to be honest what will happen to a certain extent.

Most however would consider miracles as a good thing..we shall have to wait and see, but I do have hope that most will fair well in these matters.
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...do remember my agreement with everyone when having these little conversations. There is no judgment on my end of things nor any expectations on my part. You are free to believe what you wish.

A message of Hope… [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Look For the miracles “Count them”

At 42 comes many more…too many to count, it becomes Natural,
Normal to ALL!!

Then Peace will come to ones self…

When the Natural Comes!
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...do remember my agreement with everyone when having these little conversations. There is no judgment on my end of things nor any expectations on my part. You are free to believe what you wish.

A message of Hope… [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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Re: Is the world ready for lots of miracles? I mean REAL ones…
Cow eats green grass and makes white milk,thats a miricle.

We are alive,and this is a miricle.

what more do you want?.

We are immortal souls, and we KNOW THAT, that is a miracle.

Our consciousness is completly changed in the blink of the eye, that is a miracle.

We extend our hand (love) to a brother, we provide connection (bridge) for him to his higher self, this is a miracle.

you wanna more?
 Quoting: FearNot

i think you said what CO was implying
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Re: Is the world ready for lots of miracles? I mean REAL ones…
we call it a "miracle" when the manifestation of the Sons of God occurs
it is really a natural result of the Holy Spirit and His glory animating God's own children
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Only after much chaos folks.
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we call it a "miracle" when the manifestation of the Sons of God occurs
it is really a natural result of the Holy Spirit and His glory animating God's own children
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Agreed friend, yes it is a natural thing to some of us, but not to all.
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Re: Is the world ready for lots of miracles? I mean REAL ones…
we call it a "miracle" when the manifestation of the Sons of God occurs
it is really a natural result of the Holy Spirit and His glory animating God's own children


Agreed friend, yes it is a natural thing to some of us, but not to all.
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To clarify that a little more, when these “Miracles” start showing up, they will come more and more till they become natural, normal to all..

Going to lunch…enjoy the day!
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...do remember my agreement with everyone when having these little conversations. There is no judgment on my end of things nor any expectations on my part. You are free to believe what you wish.

A message of Hope… [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]





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