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Two things I'm worried about - the basic limestone structure of Florida, and how (HISTORICALLY) water weight in the south will trigger New Madrid

 
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Two things I'm worried about - the basic limestone structure of Florida, and how (HISTORICALLY) water weight in the south will trigger New Madrid
My husband and I were about to sign a contract to buy land in Ocala, Florida in the 1980's.... but withdrew our offer when we were informed that the underlying structure was LIMESTONE, and actually very fragile.

Now I'm wondering how all of this water in Florida will affect that structure ???

Also... with so much water weight from Texas, and now Florida, Georgia, SC, and other states... will the New Madrid Seismic Zone become "off-balance" ???

OK, GLP.... what do you think ?


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bump for some educated guesses
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Re: Two things I'm worried about - the basic limestone structure of Florida, and how (HISTORICALLY) water weight in the south will trigger New Madrid
what will happen is the same thing that happened in 08 when

we had 8 landfalling hurricanes in florida


Sinkholes will open up everywhere


had one right in my backyard in deltona
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Re: Two things I'm worried about - the basic limestone structure of Florida, and how (HISTORICALLY) water weight in the south will trigger New Madrid
Limestone is pretty porous.

I'd imagine the water simply sinks back down and out toward the ocean through natural underground channels.
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Limestone is pretty porous.

I'd imagine the water simply sinks back down and out toward the ocean through natural underground channels.
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It takes some of the limestone with it, as it goes down. Sink holes will continue to be a problem.

The New Madrid is a lot bigger problem, and we just don't know what it will take to trigger the big one. Water adds weight and lubricant to the already fragile seismic zone. If the New Madrid does rupture, the world could be a very different place. There are just too many nuclear reactors sitting on top of that one. Reactors can't shut down fast enough to prevent a radioactive disaster.
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My husband and I were about to sign a contract to buy land in Ocala, Florida in the 1980's.... but withdrew our offer when we were informed that the underlying structure was LIMESTONE, and actually very fragile.

Now I'm wondering how all of this water in Florida will affect that structure ???

Also... with so much water weight from Texas, and now Florida, Georgia, SC, and other states... will the New Madrid Seismic Zone become "off-balance" ???

OK, GLP.... what do you think ?


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I would say thats silly and it could never happen, but after seeing all those pictures of dry seabeds because the hurricane was so strong that it pulled up all that water, well, its hard to believe so much water could be moved at once, so I guess anything could happen
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Re: Two things I'm worried about - the basic limestone structure of Florida, and how (HISTORICALLY) water weight in the south will trigger New Madrid
what will happen is the same thing that happened in 08 when

we had 8 landfalling hurricanes in florida


Sinkholes will open up everywhere


had one right in my backyard in deltona
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That's exactly what I'm talking about.

Will it get worse ? I think it might.....

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Limestone is pretty porous.

I'd imagine the water simply sinks back down and out toward the ocean through natural underground channels.
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It takes some of the limestone with it, as it goes down. Sink holes will continue to be a problem.

The New Madrid is a lot bigger problem, and we just don't know what it will take to trigger the big one. Water adds weight and lubricant to the already fragile seismic zone. If the New Madrid does rupture, the world could be a very different place. There are just too many nuclear reactors sitting on top of that one. Reactors can't shut down fast enough to prevent a radioactive disaster.
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I'm sure about what the weight of extra water may do... but now that you mentioned the lubricant factor... you're right !
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What ? Did you flunk geology class ?? LOL
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The models have shown that it has to go to center of new madrid. Why?
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The models have shown that it has to go to center of new madrid. Why?
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I've never heard that. Do you have a link ? That's interesting.
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Re: Two things I'm worried about - the basic limestone structure of Florida, and how (HISTORICALLY) water weight in the south will trigger New Madrid
1886 was a horrific year for east coast hurricanes and earthquakes !!

1886 was also the year of the Great Charleston, NC earthquake that measured 6.9–7.3 magnitude. *August 31,1886*

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


Seven hurricanes hit that year from June to August.

[link to www.wunderground.com (secure)]


I have a really bad feeling about what may be coming ~~


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There was an earthquake in Illinois today! Wtf
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2 days ago my bad, but still! 3.1 they never have EQs
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2 days ago my bad, but still! 3.1 they never have EQs
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Maybe we should start keeping an eye on this ???

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Check out these hurricane tracks from 1886 June - August

Four of the seven:

[link to www.wunderground.com (secure)] AS nasty as Hurricane Irma

[link to www.wunderground.com (secure)] Just like Hurricane Harvey

[link to www.wunderground.com (secure)] Just like Hurricane Jose

[link to www.wunderground.com (secure)] Will this be Hurricane Lee ???

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So tell me GLP.... Will Florida collapse ? Will Charleston see another huge earthquake, or will the New Madrid Seismic Zone be triggered by the "water weight" ?


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Re: Two things I'm worried about - the basic limestone structure of Florida, and how (HISTORICALLY) water weight in the south will trigger New Madrid
Well... I guess nobody is interested in history and how it may be repeating the year 1886 ?? I give up.

I was just curious to know if I'm the only one who recognizes the patterns.


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OMG what a idiot you are. Florida won't sink anytime soon, not in this century. As for the New Madrid zone, you need to educate yourself and worry more about the limestone in your brain. Your mind is sinking faster than FL and you're just to stupid to understand New Madrid with out an education. PS 1886 hasn't got a thing to do with now. There is no pattern to recognize.

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Hey op, only you can "De-tard" the Retard in you.
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Quit making a fool of yourself.
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Re: Two things I'm worried about - the basic limestone structure of Florida, and how (HISTORICALLY) water weight in the south will trigger New Madrid
My husband and I were about to sign a contract to buy land in Ocala, Florida in the 1980's.... but withdrew our offer when we were informed that the underlying structure was LIMESTONE, and actually very fragile.

Now I'm wondering how all of this water in Florida will affect that structure ???

Also... with so much water weight from Texas, and now Florida, Georgia, SC, and other states... will the New Madrid Seismic Zone become "off-balance" ???

OK, GLP.... what do you think ?


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I think sinkholes.

Thought of em before I relocated here 3 months ago.
Still thinking of em now.

I'm surrounded by them. Literally.
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All this has made me wonder about the bayou corn sinkhole, wasn't It affected by the tides in the GOM.
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My husband and I were about to sign a contract to buy land in Ocala, Florida in the 1980's.... but withdrew our offer when we were informed that the underlying structure was LIMESTONE, and actually very fragile.

Now I'm wondering how all of this water in Florida will affect that structure ???

Also... with so much water weight from Texas, and now Florida, Georgia, SC, and other states... will the New Madrid Seismic Zone become "off-balance" ???

OK, GLP.... what do you think ?


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I think sinkholes.

Thought of em before I relocated here 3 months ago.
Still thinking of em now.

I'm surrounded by them. Literally.
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OMG !! Well I hope you are safe. That's why we didn't go ahead with the purchase we were in the middle of.

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OMG what a idiot you are. Florida won't sink anytime soon, not in this century. As for the New Madrid zone, you need to educate yourself and worry more about the limestone in your brain. Your mind is sinking faster than FL and you're just to stupid to understand New Madrid with out an education. PS 1886 hasn't got a thing to do with now. There is no pattern to recognize.

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OP is not the only one wondering this. Many are.

Maybe you should should worry about the sinkholes in your nasty soul.
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All this has made me wonder about the bayou corn sinkhole, wasn't It affected by the tides in the GOM.
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I remember how scary that was... I think it had more to do with the salt mines collapsing, didn't it ? I'm not sure. sorry.1dunno1
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OMG what a idiot you are. Florida won't sink anytime soon, not in this century. As for the New Madrid zone, you need to educate yourself and worry more about the limestone in your brain. Your mind is sinking faster than FL and you're just to stupid to understand New Madrid with out an education. PS 1886 hasn't got a thing to do with now. There is no pattern to recognize.

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OP is not the only one wondering this. Many are.

Maybe you should should worry about the sinkholes in your nasty soul.
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Thank you "Doom" for sticking up for me. - I just try and ignore the "children" who don't have a clue or an education.... That AC is an AC for a reason. LOL

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Earth goes through cycles and I believe this is one of the worst.

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Guess I'll have to check out what the winter of 1886 was like...seems like we're do for some good snow
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Re: Two things I'm worried about - the basic limestone structure of Florida, and how (HISTORICALLY) water weight in the south will trigger New Madrid
You make perfect sense. Most predictions for earth change in USA show half of the Florida Peninsula gone. About Ocala and south. Don't know if this will happen. As far a the New Madrid there has to be a certain balance of the earth so you may be right. Anyhow interesting point of view.
There are also volcano's in the Gulf of Mexico which may be problematic sometime in the future.

I too research a possible relocation before a move.
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