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European detector spots its first gravitational wave

 
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European detector spots its first gravitational wave
Physicists have announced their fourth-ever detection of gravitational waves, and the first such discovery made together by observatories in Europe and the United States.

The Virgo observatory near Pisa, Italy, has been hunting for ripples in the fabric of space-time since 2007. But it was being upgraded at the time of the historic first detection of gravitational waves by the twin laboratories of Virgo’s US cousin, the Advanced Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO), and was also out of action for two subsequent sightings.

Virgo rejoined the hunt this year on 1 August, following a 5-year, €23-million (US$27-million) upgrade. And on August 14, both it and LIGO picked up the spiral of a pair of rotating black holes, with masses of 31 and 25 times that of the Sun, as they merged together, physicists announced on September 27 at a press conference in Turin, Italy. The collision happened around 550 million parsecs (1.8 billion light years) away.

Observing the event with three detectors, rather than LIGO’s two, allowed researchers to dramatically increase the accuracy with which they can pinpoint the location and distance of the merging black holes.

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Re: European detector spots its first gravitational wave
These gravitational waves are arcing up the Sun.
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These gravitational waves are arcing up the Sun.
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We just discovered 4 so far, I doubt this will have much effect?
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Re: European detector spots its first gravitational wave
does time really exist???

Time on earth is measured by

the earth's rotation around the sun


what if you are on a planet that takes 9 earth days

to rotate around the sun?

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These gravitational waves are arcing up the Sun.
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We just discovered 4 so far, I doubt this will have much effect?
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Disagree. If propagation is at or near c there is interaction at the atomic level which could accelerate the fusion reaction.
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Re: European detector spots its first gravitational wave
does time really exist???

Time on earth is measured by

the earth's rotation around the sun


what if you are on a planet that takes 9 earth days

to rotate around the sun?
 Quoting: jake


In this case one year would be 9 days :)
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Re: European detector spots its first gravitational wave
does time really exist???

Time on earth is measured by

the earth's rotation around the sun


what if you are on a planet that takes 9 earth days

to rotate around the sun?
 Quoting: jake


In this case one year would be 9 days :)
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Nah because you are on a different planet, one year would be one year, but there is actually 40 days on that planet per year. It is just.. the days are very short by our standards

:P_P8:
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does time really exist???

Time on earth is measured by

the earth's rotation around the sun


what if you are on a planet that takes 9 earth days

to rotate around the sun
?
 Quoting: jake


In this case one year would be 9 days :)
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Nah because you are on a different planet, one year would be one year, but there is actually 40 days on that planet per year. It is just.. the days are very short by our standards

:P_P8:
 Quoting: P Man


wat
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Re: European detector spots its first gravitational wave
Physicists have announced their fourth-ever detection of gravitational waves, and the first such discovery made together by observatories in Europe and the United States.

The Virgo observatory near Pisa, Italy, has been hunting for ripples in the fabric of space-time since 2007. But it was being upgraded at the time of the historic first detection of gravitational waves by the twin laboratories of Virgo’s US cousin, the Advanced Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO), and was also out of action for two subsequent sightings.

Virgo rejoined the hunt this year on 1 August, following a 5-year, €23-million (US$27-million) upgrade. And on August 14, both it and LIGO picked up the spiral of a pair of rotating black holes, with masses of 31 and 25 times that of the Sun, as they merged together, physicists announced on September 27 at a press conference in Turin, Italy. The collision happened around 550 million parsecs (1.8 billion light years) away.

Observing the event with three detectors, rather than LIGO’s two, allowed researchers to dramatically increase the accuracy with which they can pinpoint the location and distance of the merging black holes.

[link to www.scientificamerican.com (secure)]
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So they think they detected gravity millions of parsecs away, but can't detect them here on Earth?

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Always such interesting threads.
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Re: European detector spots its first gravitational wave
does time really exist???

Time on earth is measured by

the earth's rotation around the sun


what if you are on a planet that takes 9 earth days

to rotate around the sun?
 Quoting: jake


Times existed before we kept track of it. It is recorded in fossils, they age, we age, the planet ages due to time.

Who in their right mind would want to stop time with this planet in the shape it is in and how we treat each other?
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Re: European detector spots its first gravitational wave
does time really exist???

Time on earth is measured by

the earth's rotation around the sun


what if you are on a planet that takes 9 earth days

to rotate around the sun
?
 Quoting: jake


In this case one year would be 9 days :)
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Nah because you are on a different planet, one year would be one year, but there is actually 40 days on that planet per year. It is just.. the days are very short by our standards

:P_P8:
 Quoting: P Man


:wat:
 Quoting: Face Palmer


It has to do with the rotational speed of the planet.
Nine days is earth perspective based on the rotational speed of our planet. I suggested another point of view, that's wat.
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In this case one year would be 9 days :)
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Nah because you are on a different planet, one year would be one year, but there is actually 40 days on that planet per year. It is just.. the days are very short by our standards

:P_P8:
 Quoting: P Man


wat
 Quoting: Face Palmer


It has to do with the rotational speed of the planet.
Nine days is earth perspective based on the rotational speed of our planet. I suggested another point of view, that's wat.
 Quoting: P Man


A day is the time a planet needs to rotate once, despite the time it needs.
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bump
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So they think they detected gravity millions of parsecs away, but can't detect them here on Earth?


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They had to come up with something after the big $$$ upgrade.
So they went with this BS and hope to get more $$$ for achieving nothing.
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So they think they detected gravity millions of parsecs away, but can't detect them here on Earth?


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They had to come up with something after the big $$$ upgrade.
So they went with this BS and hope to get more $$$ for achieving nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75598014


D'oh
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Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

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