HUGE QUESTION: Why did shooter shoot guard through the door 6 minutes BEFORE he began shooting?

Why did he lie?

How did the second version of this shooting come to light?



According to Dave Hickey, the president of the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America, Campos approached Paddock’s room on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay on Sunday night, hoping to stop the deadly murder spree.

Hickey tells The Daily Beast that Paddock saw Campos coming through the cameras that he had rigged in the hallway.

When Campos got to the room, Paddock fired through the door, hitting him in the leg.

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David L. Hickey, the union president representing the hotel's security officers, told The New York Times that Paddock did not resume firing on concertgoers after focusing his attention on Campos.


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Now he shuts up....


The president of Mr. Campos’s union did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Monday evening.



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Last Edited by ~kpm~ on 10/10/2017 12:19 PM

Uhhhmmmmmm. Just spitballing here..

Perhaps the security guard saw the cameras and knocked on the door to inquire.

Perhaps another guest called security after seeing the strange cameras on the room service cart.

Perhaps the security guard was a Man in Black trying to prevent the TRUTH about the DOME from being revealed.

Perhaps the security guard wanted to look for Nibiru through the shooters spotting scope.

Perhaps the security guard had to take a dump and could not hold it.

Shall I go on?

ANY GUNSHOTS IN A HOTEL should have had tens if not hundreds of calls to the front desk ~ with an instantaneous response

So the Union President says that Paddock didn't shoot at the crowd anymore after he shot Campos, which the shooting lasted about 11 minutes.

But now the public info is saying Campos was shot first, 6 minutes before Paddock shot into the crowd?

That would be a difference of about 17 minutes.

Last Edited by MarkInMichigan on 10/10/2017 12:23 PM

200 rounds of .223 from a rifle, through a door, into a hotel hallway?

Immediately you would have pretty much everyone on the floor calling 911 because not only would the sound and sound pressure be tremendous, there would be bullets going into everything, everywhere.

200 rounds is 2-3 mags, minimum why would he take the to reload or to grab another rifle and why reload anyway in a situation like that?

No 911 calls that we are being made aware of? there would only be about a 111% percent chance of anyone anywhere near the room calling 911, it would sound like bombs going off.

How did sec guard NOT call into his dispatch, radio central or whatever they call it? After not only being shot, but 200 rounds blasted down the hall?

The "Time line" makes it sound like no one knew about the sec guard shooting until he TOLD them over 20 minutes after it happened.

200 rounds makes a load of smoke, rips the holy hell out of everything in front of the shooter, goes through walls, blows shit apart, shit ton of mayhem and destruction unleashed.

Anyone in any room even close would be hitting the deck because it would sound and feel like WWIII was breaking out on top of them. Panic, screaming, frantic calls to the desk, 911 all that.

Anyone coming forward saying they were on the same floor and talking about what that was like? Nope.
Any talk about 911 calls coming in BEFORE the concert got shot up? Nope.
Any reason the guard didn't call in to rent a tard central command? Nope.
Anyone talking about being at the front desk and having a dozen other guests calling in flipping the fuck out because someone was unleashing hundreds of rounds from a freakin AR only a few dozen yards away? Nope.

Oh well maybe that type of rifle isn't so sinister after all, just pew pew pew and no one knows, sounds like rap music or a video game on TV.

I OWN one, let me tell you, when it's being fired, even in the open outdoors anywhere near you, you fuckin know it.



This whole "story" just reeks of bullshit.

this was 6 minutes before any noise or shooting started.

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Another thing, why did it take the police 12 minutes to enter the room when they got there? Like I said, I am a LEO and if we here shooting inside a room we are going in. If the door is locked then a shotgun will take care of that real easy. We would put so many bullets into the room that there would be no doubt if it was suicide or the cops got him. Then again I am in Texas and that's just our mentality here.

Ps...check the bank account of the security guard for some large deposits recently.

They said the police arrived at the room 12 minutes after shooting started but he had stopped firing by then so they waited for back up and breached the room 60 minutes later.

Still Bullshit, we are going in. If nothing else the all clear can be given and emergency services can tend to the wounded quicker.

He wasn't "aiming" at people. He was simply raining bullets down into a parking lot full of people. That does not require aiming, shooting skill, or any particular accuracy level.

Because ops probly went south n they didn't trust the guard or didn't want to split the moolah!!

I feel sorry for people who can't believe anything, people who actually think their government is killing people intentionally, or thinks these were all actors and no one died or thinks the shooter wasn't real and he was somehow set up. There's no end to the denial and really its so moronic, I have to think you are a foreign entity instilling distrust. In our government. No one could be this dumb.

Looking at your karma, you're a total professional at what you do here. Thus everyone takes your extremist comments with a bag of salt

I'm positive that was done.
Sure sounds like Security Guard was in on it at some capacity.

Like the arson returns to the fire scene to act like a hero.

MS13 initiation into ISIS requires them to kill cops.

Anytime there is a shot fired in ANY hotel someone should pull a fire alarm. Those hotel people just went about their business like "OH, sounds like another one bit the dust, I wonder who will clean up THAT mess".

Paddock would have used his camera and known the guard was not dead. Why did he not finish him off? Before he could radio for help.

Where are all the destruction in the hallway and door from the 100 rounds shot at guard?

Actually it does. At that distance and with his elevation the target "kill box" becomes really small. Firing with a full automatic is difficult at best to stay on target and because his kill/hit ratio was so high in a small area, he was damn good. He said he had to be within one degree to be that accurate. Ive heard a few navy seals on TV lately who have said the same thing. If he was firing a sniper rifle its not too hard.

Anyone can shoot straight down but going out 1000 feet from 300 feet up firing in full automatic is another story.

maybe the story changed on purpose to a more accurate picture of what happened with public imagery intentionally setup to not match the new, more accurate info


you know, so sites like this can go crazy like it usually does with nonsensical ideas to discredit the community even further to organizations with power to sway search results in certain, or away from certain, directions




or maybe 100% of everything has been true so far and people just expect it to be nonsense lol

how many First Responders did he kill? wound? ratio? compared to 911? number people.

I think that's probably right.

I think Paddock didn't expect anyone to be up there- this security guard's presence put him in a rush. At this point, Paddock had 6 minutes to mull over continuing with his plan or scrapping it. He chose the former, but since he had already been thrown a curve ball he was now in a bit of a rush.

This rush led to his death, I think. If any of you here follow Thomas Wictor on twitter, you may have read the theory on how/why Paddock shot himself.

Wictor and another guy theorize that Paddock realized cops were in the hallway and then tried frantically to get the hell out of his room alive. In the rush, Paddock grabs a few rifles in one hand, clutching them to his chest, and a revolver in the other hand- being obviously much easier to use for defense in close quarters. Paddock slips on the empty shell casings strewn all over the floor, instinctively clutches his guns closer and his trigger finger tighter, then accidentally shoots himself right in the mouth.


So in a sense, the security guard DID likely save many lives simply by his presence but just in a different way. Had he not been up there and thrown Paddock off his game in the first place, Paddock may have been more accurate and maybe not have slipped and killed himself.

But he may have slipped anyways, since he likely didn't expect the cops to be out there as fast as they were.

Now the big question is of course- did the security guard call in his injury? If so, what happened next? Is there a reason the cops didn't know sooner where the shooter was? Was there simply a mixup in the confusion?

The Sheriff has twice accidentally referred to the security guard as the shooter, though I'm not sure if there is anything to that or just a simple error that means nothing.

He only fired for 10 minutes on full auto. Not enough time for first responders to arrive. At that distance, I think he would have needed a sniper rifle to target anyone specifically. But wait... he bought a sniper type rifle on his way to the hotel but they didn't find it.

"maybe 100% of everything has been true so far and people just expect it to be nonsense"

There are several things about the official story that are definitely lies. Please start here...


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Because he didn't.

These are all lies. They have been from Day One. It's just one enormous cover-up unraveling.

I think that's why they're pushing the Harvey Weinstein rape stories that everyone in that business has known for decades - because they need a big salacious story to distract from the Las Vegas disaster they've created.

There IS witness testimony to this part. Officers were "chasing a suspect dressed as a security guard".... what happened to that story, and which hotel was it. I don't think it relates to the Mandalay Bay security guard, but I'm open to that scenario.

Thoughts?

Even mainstream conservative talk show hosts who don't question any official narratives of ANYTHING, are questioning this.

They picked the wrong patsy. And they forgot the first rule of lying. A liar has to have an excellent memory so he doesn't forget all the lies he told before. Have to be consistent.

Would make sense that a participant in this massacre would dress up like a security guard. That's so common for criminals to pretend to be police or security guards in killing scenarios. Who better to get access and not to be questioned on their location or activities? A guard. Maybe this guy they said was shot WAS the guy they were chasing and now they have to account for him somehow.

Another thing...when Campos saw a barricade in the stairwell that was blocking usage, why did he not call right then and there to get help taking the crap out of it! It's a fire hazard to block stairways so he should have been calling about that first. Is there any training or protocol with these security guards? How badly was this stairwell baracaded? If someone has baracaded a stairwell, isn't that a big red flag right there!

Actually, he just used his time machine to get a sniper rifle. I wondering when they're going to find a Delorean in his garage........