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Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act
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If Trump does this, I think the theory that he's a liberal mole would be debunked once and for all.

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President Donald Trump is planning to end an important subsidy that is helping to support the Affordable Care Act, Politico reported Thursday evening, citing two sources with knowledge of the matter.

Trump has repeatedly threatened to stop the payments — worth an estimated $7 billion this year — which are made directly to insurance companies to help cover out-of-pocket medical expenses for low-income Americans enrolled in individual healthcare plans under the Affordable Care Act, commonly know as Obamacare.

Republicans have repeatedly attempted to repeal President Barack Obama's signature health-care bill, but have not yet succeeded.
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Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act
Parachute.
How soft will the landing be?
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Parachute.
How soft will the landing be?
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Shhh! Trump is trying to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic the best he can. That's now called the ultimate "patriotism."

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Before Trump, practically everyone on GLP knew that any system based on fiat currency was doomed. Trump can't change that fact, but the cult of Trump has lost sight of the big picture.
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Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act
Just keep in mind Trump is being sued to end them.

United States House of Representatives v. Price, et al. (previously v. Burwell, et al., also known as the House Republicans' lawsuit against President Obama) is a lawsuit in which the United States House of Representatives is suing departments and officials within the executive branch, asserting that President Barack Obama acted illegally in his implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The lawsuit was touted by House Speaker John Boehner, and asserts that President Obama exceeded his constitutional authority in delaying the implementation of the employer mandate of the Affordable Care Act[1] and also "addresses Republican opposition to an estimated $175 billion in payments to insurance companies over the next 10 years as part of a cost-sharing program under the healthcare law."

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Just keep in mind Trump is being sued to end them.

United States House of Representatives v. Price, et al. (previously v. Burwell, et al., also known as the House Republicans' lawsuit against President Obama) is a lawsuit in which the United States House of Representatives is suing departments and officials within the executive branch, asserting that President Barack Obama acted illegally in his implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The lawsuit was touted by House Speaker John Boehner, and asserts that President Obama exceeded his constitutional authority in delaying the implementation of the employer mandate of the Affordable Care Act[1] and also "addresses Republican opposition to an estimated $175 billion in payments to insurance companies over the next 10 years as part of a cost-sharing program under the healthcare law."

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I'm too preoccupied with the Las Vegas conspiracy to go down any more rabbit holes right now.

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Is there another thread on this topic that I missed?

This news is too huge to be ignored.
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Parachute.
How soft will the landing be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25453213


Shhh! Trump is trying to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic the best he can. That's now called the ultimate "patriotism."

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Before Trump, practically everyone on GLP knew that any system based on fiat currency was doomed. Trump can't change that fact, but the cult of Trump has lost sight of the big picture.
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True, but Bannon is changing the face of the Republicans and the Dems are just loosing anyway.

We may still get a peaceful resolution.
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Parachute.
How soft will the landing be?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25453213


Shhh! Trump is trying to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic the best he can. That's now called the ultimate "patriotism."

flag waver

Before Trump, practically everyone on GLP knew that any system based on fiat currency was doomed. Trump can't change that fact, but the cult of Trump has lost sight of the big picture.
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True, but Bannon is changing the face of the Republicans and the Dems are just loosing anyway.

We may still get a peaceful resolution.
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Is there anyone in Congress who wants to return to Constitutional money?
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Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act
He's cutting off the low income types from receiving assistance - assistance split between the insurance companies who have to pay a percentage of the subsidies, along with 'tax payer' assistance. While Trump the Deep state goofy puppet tries to spin it as eliminating the bailout of the insurance companies, it's just the opposite. The insurance companies, forced to pay for the subsidies and not wanting to have to pay for all those 'pre-exising conditions' - have demanded the subsidy elimination and to be able to charge no-ceiling limits on premiums for pre-existing conditions. Raising everyone else's premiums - then using the 'low income freeloader' argument plays well to the racist base of Trump - not realizing that they've been had. This is an effort to get rid of the 'surplus low skill labor' in a way that doesn't require bullets. Just pump them full of toxic food, vaccinate, destroy their health, limit their access to the healthcare system as a whole - and then they 'quietly' die off.

I'm afraid Mr. Trump and his deep state friends are going to learn an important lesson about life that they, and their ancestors, seem incapable of. It is not the 'useless eaters' who are on the chopping block - but they. And as this winds along, the beauty of this Truth will be on full display.
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Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act
He's cutting off the low income types from receiving assistance - assistance split between the insurance companies who have to pay a percentage of the subsidies, along with 'tax payer' assistance. While Trump the Deep state goofy puppet tries to spin it as eliminating the bailout of the insurance companies, it's just the opposite. The insurance companies, forced to pay for the subsidies and not wanting to have to pay for all those 'pre-exising conditions' - have demanded the subsidy elimination and to be able to charge no-ceiling limits on premiums for pre-existing conditions. Raising everyone else's premiums - then using the 'low income freeloader' argument plays well to the racist base of Trump - not realizing that they've been had. This is an effort to get rid of the 'surplus low skill labor' in a way that doesn't require bullets. Just pump them full of toxic food, vaccinate, destroy their health, limit their access to the healthcare system as a whole - and then they 'quietly' die off.

I'm afraid Mr. Trump and his deep state friends are going to learn an important lesson about life that they, and their ancestors, seem incapable of. It is not the 'useless eaters' who are on the chopping block - but they. And as this winds along, the beauty of this Truth will be on full display.
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If Trump follows through with this plan, almost every American GLPer will be affected in a negative way. Some will surely die because of it.

This is probably the biggest news of the day.

It's not only not pinned, it's ignored.
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Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act
He's cutting off the low income types from receiving assistance - assistance split between the insurance companies who have to pay a percentage of the subsidies, along with 'tax payer' assistance. While Trump the Deep state goofy puppet tries to spin it as eliminating the bailout of the insurance companies, it's just the opposite. The insurance companies, forced to pay for the subsidies and not wanting to have to pay for all those 'pre-exising conditions' - have demanded the subsidy elimination and to be able to charge no-ceiling limits on premiums for pre-existing conditions. Raising everyone else's premiums - then using the 'low income freeloader' argument plays well to the racist base of Trump - not realizing that they've been had. This is an effort to get rid of the 'surplus low skill labor' in a way that doesn't require bullets. Just pump them full of toxic food, vaccinate, destroy their health, limit their access to the healthcare system as a whole - and then they 'quietly' die off.

I'm afraid Mr. Trump and his deep state friends are going to learn an important lesson about life that they, and their ancestors, seem incapable of. It is not the 'useless eaters' who are on the chopping block - but they. And as this winds along, the beauty of this Truth will be on full display.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20595192


If Trump follows through with this plan, almost every American GLPer will be affected in a negative way. Some will surely die because of it.

This is probably the biggest news of the day.

It's not only not pinned, it's ignored.
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Noone wants to believe it - because they are 'believers'. Trump's American base is religious, in nature. They are impervious to reality or facts. Their end is going to be most unpleasant for them.
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Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act
He's cutting off the low income types from receiving assistance - assistance split between the insurance companies who have to pay a percentage of the subsidies, along with 'tax payer' assistance. While Trump the Deep state goofy puppet tries to spin it as eliminating the bailout of the insurance companies, it's just the opposite. The insurance companies, forced to pay for the subsidies and not wanting to have to pay for all those 'pre-exising conditions' - have demanded the subsidy elimination and to be able to charge no-ceiling limits on premiums for pre-existing conditions. Raising everyone else's premiums - then using the 'low income freeloader' argument plays well to the racist base of Trump - not realizing that they've been had. This is an effort to get rid of the 'surplus low skill labor' in a way that doesn't require bullets. Just pump them full of toxic food, vaccinate, destroy their health, limit their access to the healthcare system as a whole - and then they 'quietly' die off.

I'm afraid Mr. Trump and his deep state friends are going to learn an important lesson about life that they, and their ancestors, seem incapable of. It is not the 'useless eaters' who are on the chopping block - but they. And as this winds along, the beauty of this Truth will be on full display.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20595192


If Trump follows through with this plan, almost every American GLPer will be affected in a negative way. Some will surely die because of it.

This is probably the biggest news of the day.

It's not only not pinned, it's ignored.
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Noone wants to believe it - because they are 'believers'. Trump's American base is religious, in nature. They are impervious to reality or facts. Their end is going to be most unpleasant for them.
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They can't ignore it now. It's done.

Thread: Donald Trump to end 'unlawful' Obamacare health insurance subsidies for the poor
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Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act
He's cutting off the low income types from receiving assistance - assistance split between the insurance companies who have to pay a percentage of the subsidies, along with 'tax payer' assistance. While Trump the Deep state goofy puppet tries to spin it as eliminating the bailout of the insurance companies, it's just the opposite. The insurance companies, forced to pay for the subsidies and not wanting to have to pay for all those 'pre-exising conditions' - have demanded the subsidy elimination and to be able to charge no-ceiling limits on premiums for pre-existing conditions. Raising everyone else's premiums - then using the 'low income freeloader' argument plays well to the racist base of Trump - not realizing that they've been had. This is an effort to get rid of the 'surplus low skill labor' in a way that doesn't require bullets. Just pump them full of toxic food, vaccinate, destroy their health, limit their access to the healthcare system as a whole - and then they 'quietly' die off.

I'm afraid Mr. Trump and his deep state friends are going to learn an important lesson about life that they, and their ancestors, seem incapable of. It is not the 'useless eaters' who are on the chopping block - but they. And as this winds along, the beauty of this Truth will be on full display.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20595192


If Trump follows through with this plan, almost every American GLPer will be affected in a negative way. Some will surely die because of it.

This is probably the biggest news of the day.

It's not only not pinned, it's ignored.
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Noone wants to believe it - because they are 'believers'. Trump's American base is religious, in nature. They are impervious to reality or facts. Their end is going to be most unpleasant for them.
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"They are impervious to reality or facts."

I thought they were fiscal conservatives and/or liberterians. Trump is doing the right thing according to those ideologies. Shouldn't his supporters be cheering this on based on that?
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Kaiser Permanente are murderers.

USA medical care is far too expensive and worthless to boot.

The doctors and insurance companies have conspired to rob you blind and feed you chemotherapy to make their $250K.
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Congress never authorized these subsidies. They are not part of the text of the ACA law. All $$$ appropriations must be initiated in the House. Thus, the subsidies were illegal to begin with, just like DACA was. Obama had no constitutional authority to do either.
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Congress never authorized these subsidies. They are not part of the text of the ACA law. All $$$ appropriations must be initiated in the House. Thus, the subsidies were illegal to begin with, just like DACA was. Obama had no constitutional authority to do either.
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^^^THIS^^^
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The free shit army is going to flip the fuck out when their subsidies go away. That's how Barry planned it. ACA is a trojan horse to civil war.
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I understand there were a lot of "hidden taxes" Obama initiated via executive order and am wondering where they are hidden? Are they in the ACA or were they introduced somewhere else? Just curious if anyone knows?





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