Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25453213 United States 10/12/2017 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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(OP) User ID: 75420057 Denmark 10/12/2017 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act Shhh! Trump is trying to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic the best he can. That's now called the ultimate "patriotism." Before Trump, practically everyone on GLP knew that any system based on fiat currency was doomed. Trump can't change that fact, but the cult of Trump has lost sight of the big picture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75679959 Chile 10/12/2017 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act United States House of Representatives v. Price, et al. (previously v. Burwell, et al., also known as the House Republicans' lawsuit against President Obama) is a lawsuit in which the United States House of Representatives is suing departments and officials within the executive branch, asserting that President Barack Obama acted illegally in his implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The lawsuit was touted by House Speaker John Boehner, and asserts that President Obama exceeded his constitutional authority in delaying the implementation of the employer mandate of the Affordable Care Act[1] and also "addresses Republican opposition to an estimated $175 billion in payments to insurance companies over the next 10 years as part of a cost-sharing program under the healthcare law." [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 75439935 Denmark 10/12/2017 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act Just keep in mind Trump is being sued to end them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75679959 United States House of Representatives v. Price, et al. (previously v. Burwell, et al., also known as the House Republicans' lawsuit against President Obama) is a lawsuit in which the United States House of Representatives is suing departments and officials within the executive branch, asserting that President Barack Obama acted illegally in his implementation of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The lawsuit was touted by House Speaker John Boehner, and asserts that President Obama exceeded his constitutional authority in delaying the implementation of the employer mandate of the Affordable Care Act[1] and also "addresses Republican opposition to an estimated $175 billion in payments to insurance companies over the next 10 years as part of a cost-sharing program under the healthcare law." [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I'm too preoccupied with the Las Vegas conspiracy to go down any more rabbit holes right now. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75676902 United States 10/13/2017 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act Shhh! Trump is trying to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic the best he can. That's now called the ultimate "patriotism." Before Trump, practically everyone on GLP knew that any system based on fiat currency was doomed. Trump can't change that fact, but the cult of Trump has lost sight of the big picture. True, but Bannon is changing the face of the Republicans and the Dems are just loosing anyway. We may still get a peaceful resolution. |
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(OP) User ID: 75439935 Denmark 10/13/2017 01:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act Shhh! Trump is trying to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic the best he can. That's now called the ultimate "patriotism." Before Trump, practically everyone on GLP knew that any system based on fiat currency was doomed. Trump can't change that fact, but the cult of Trump has lost sight of the big picture. True, but Bannon is changing the face of the Republicans and the Dems are just loosing anyway. We may still get a peaceful resolution. Is there anyone in Congress who wants to return to Constitutional money? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20595192 United States 10/13/2017 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act He's cutting off the low income types from receiving assistance - assistance split between the insurance companies who have to pay a percentage of the subsidies, along with 'tax payer' assistance. While Trump the Deep state goofy puppet tries to spin it as eliminating the bailout of the insurance companies, it's just the opposite. The insurance companies, forced to pay for the subsidies and not wanting to have to pay for all those 'pre-exising conditions' - have demanded the subsidy elimination and to be able to charge no-ceiling limits on premiums for pre-existing conditions. Raising everyone else's premiums - then using the 'low income freeloader' argument plays well to the racist base of Trump - not realizing that they've been had. This is an effort to get rid of the 'surplus low skill labor' in a way that doesn't require bullets. Just pump them full of toxic food, vaccinate, destroy their health, limit their access to the healthcare system as a whole - and then they 'quietly' die off. I'm afraid Mr. Trump and his deep state friends are going to learn an important lesson about life that they, and their ancestors, seem incapable of. It is not the 'useless eaters' who are on the chopping block - but they. And as this winds along, the beauty of this Truth will be on full display. |
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(OP) User ID: 72449960 Denmark 10/13/2017 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act He's cutting off the low income types from receiving assistance - assistance split between the insurance companies who have to pay a percentage of the subsidies, along with 'tax payer' assistance. While Trump the Deep state goofy puppet tries to spin it as eliminating the bailout of the insurance companies, it's just the opposite. The insurance companies, forced to pay for the subsidies and not wanting to have to pay for all those 'pre-exising conditions' - have demanded the subsidy elimination and to be able to charge no-ceiling limits on premiums for pre-existing conditions. Raising everyone else's premiums - then using the 'low income freeloader' argument plays well to the racist base of Trump - not realizing that they've been had. This is an effort to get rid of the 'surplus low skill labor' in a way that doesn't require bullets. Just pump them full of toxic food, vaccinate, destroy their health, limit their access to the healthcare system as a whole - and then they 'quietly' die off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20595192 I'm afraid Mr. Trump and his deep state friends are going to learn an important lesson about life that they, and their ancestors, seem incapable of. It is not the 'useless eaters' who are on the chopping block - but they. And as this winds along, the beauty of this Truth will be on full display. If Trump follows through with this plan, almost every American GLPer will be affected in a negative way. Some will surely die because of it. This is probably the biggest news of the day. It's not only not pinned, it's ignored. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20595192 United States 10/13/2017 02:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act He's cutting off the low income types from receiving assistance - assistance split between the insurance companies who have to pay a percentage of the subsidies, along with 'tax payer' assistance. While Trump the Deep state goofy puppet tries to spin it as eliminating the bailout of the insurance companies, it's just the opposite. The insurance companies, forced to pay for the subsidies and not wanting to have to pay for all those 'pre-exising conditions' - have demanded the subsidy elimination and to be able to charge no-ceiling limits on premiums for pre-existing conditions. Raising everyone else's premiums - then using the 'low income freeloader' argument plays well to the racist base of Trump - not realizing that they've been had. This is an effort to get rid of the 'surplus low skill labor' in a way that doesn't require bullets. Just pump them full of toxic food, vaccinate, destroy their health, limit their access to the healthcare system as a whole - and then they 'quietly' die off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20595192 I'm afraid Mr. Trump and his deep state friends are going to learn an important lesson about life that they, and their ancestors, seem incapable of. It is not the 'useless eaters' who are on the chopping block - but they. And as this winds along, the beauty of this Truth will be on full display. If Trump follows through with this plan, almost every American GLPer will be affected in a negative way. Some will surely die because of it. This is probably the biggest news of the day. It's not only not pinned, it's ignored. Noone wants to believe it - because they are 'believers'. Trump's American base is religious, in nature. They are impervious to reality or facts. Their end is going to be most unpleasant for them. |
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(OP) User ID: 72449960 Denmark 10/13/2017 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act He's cutting off the low income types from receiving assistance - assistance split between the insurance companies who have to pay a percentage of the subsidies, along with 'tax payer' assistance. While Trump the Deep state goofy puppet tries to spin it as eliminating the bailout of the insurance companies, it's just the opposite. The insurance companies, forced to pay for the subsidies and not wanting to have to pay for all those 'pre-exising conditions' - have demanded the subsidy elimination and to be able to charge no-ceiling limits on premiums for pre-existing conditions. Raising everyone else's premiums - then using the 'low income freeloader' argument plays well to the racist base of Trump - not realizing that they've been had. This is an effort to get rid of the 'surplus low skill labor' in a way that doesn't require bullets. Just pump them full of toxic food, vaccinate, destroy their health, limit their access to the healthcare system as a whole - and then they 'quietly' die off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20595192 I'm afraid Mr. Trump and his deep state friends are going to learn an important lesson about life that they, and their ancestors, seem incapable of. It is not the 'useless eaters' who are on the chopping block - but they. And as this winds along, the beauty of this Truth will be on full display. If Trump follows through with this plan, almost every American GLPer will be affected in a negative way. Some will surely die because of it. This is probably the biggest news of the day. It's not only not pinned, it's ignored. Noone wants to believe it - because they are 'believers'. Trump's American base is religious, in nature. They are impervious to reality or facts. Their end is going to be most unpleasant for them. They can't ignore it now. It's done. Thread: Donald Trump to end 'unlawful' Obamacare health insurance subsidies for the poor |
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(OP) User ID: 72449960 Denmark 10/13/2017 02:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act He's cutting off the low income types from receiving assistance - assistance split between the insurance companies who have to pay a percentage of the subsidies, along with 'tax payer' assistance. While Trump the Deep state goofy puppet tries to spin it as eliminating the bailout of the insurance companies, it's just the opposite. The insurance companies, forced to pay for the subsidies and not wanting to have to pay for all those 'pre-exising conditions' - have demanded the subsidy elimination and to be able to charge no-ceiling limits on premiums for pre-existing conditions. Raising everyone else's premiums - then using the 'low income freeloader' argument plays well to the racist base of Trump - not realizing that they've been had. This is an effort to get rid of the 'surplus low skill labor' in a way that doesn't require bullets. Just pump them full of toxic food, vaccinate, destroy their health, limit their access to the healthcare system as a whole - and then they 'quietly' die off. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20595192 I'm afraid Mr. Trump and his deep state friends are going to learn an important lesson about life that they, and their ancestors, seem incapable of. It is not the 'useless eaters' who are on the chopping block - but they. And as this winds along, the beauty of this Truth will be on full display. If Trump follows through with this plan, almost every American GLPer will be affected in a negative way. Some will surely die because of it. This is probably the biggest news of the day. It's not only not pinned, it's ignored. Noone wants to believe it - because they are 'believers'. Trump's American base is religious, in nature. They are impervious to reality or facts. Their end is going to be most unpleasant for them. "They are impervious to reality or facts." I thought they were fiscal conservatives and/or liberterians. Trump is doing the right thing according to those ideologies. Shouldn't his supporters be cheering this on based on that? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75561181 India 10/13/2017 03:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act Kaiser Permanente are murderers. USA medical care is far too expensive and worthless to boot. The doctors and insurance companies have conspired to rob you blind and feed you chemotherapy to make their $250K. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75526091 United States 10/13/2017 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act Congress never authorized these subsidies. They are not part of the text of the ACA law. All $$$ appropriations must be initiated in the House. Thus, the subsidies were illegal to begin with, just like DACA was. Obama had no constitutional authority to do either. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43257638 United States 10/13/2017 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act Congress never authorized these subsidies. They are not part of the text of the ACA law. All $$$ appropriations must be initiated in the House. Thus, the subsidies were illegal to begin with, just like DACA was. Obama had no constitutional authority to do either. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75526091 ^^^THIS^^^ |
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User ID: 75530951 United States 10/13/2017 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump is planning to end $7 billion/year in subsidy payments that are helping to support the Affordable Care Act I understand there were a lot of "hidden taxes" Obama initiated via executive order and am wondering where they are hidden? Are they in the ACA or were they introduced somewhere else? Just curious if anyone knows? |