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Lifting weights is pointless without steroids

 
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
I'm 6'1'' 180 lbs and ripped. I used to be out of shape even though I always went to the gym. Once I went vegan 6 months ago my body has transformed. My recovery is much faster and I'm lifting more, hence getting larger muscles. I take no protein or any other supplements. Drink socially maybe once a week, less than 6 drinks. Diet is 70%, weights 20%, genetics 10%.
Most people are obsessed with protein which inhibits proper muscle development imo. It's all about amino acids, the building blocks of protein. Also, I do a 5x5 strong lifts workout. 3 xs a week for 30-45 mins. Not much time at all...bench, squat, deadlift, bent over rows, standing military press. Hits all the primary muscles that release the most testosterone which grows your secondary muscles. I hate when people train biceps at the gym. So stupid
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
You can increase your testosterone naturally with diet, supplements, exercise.
I just got a book called Master Your T, by Christopher Walker. It lists foods and supplements for increasting T, and etc.
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You can raise it up to 10% by not jacking it too
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
Don't understand the lift to get chicks thing.

As a cyclist, I only lift in the off season to get more muscular balance and strength. So, lifting is worthwhile here.
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
1. Your chest and shoulders couldn't have improved in 14 days, just LOL. That only shows what kind of idea about weightlifting people have. It doesn't work like that with or without steroids. You convinced yourself you look better, which is a placebo effect, if it makes you feel better about yourself, good for you, but it's not a real change, only in your head.

2. Apparently pheromones do not work: [link to www.sciencemag.org] Anecdotal evidence in this case is pointless, because it's gonna be placebo effect just like your body recomposition in 14 days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75755922


There's a lot of bluster and bravado in your posts, Poland. You're not fooling anyone.

My chest and shoulders are no bigger, but I have more definition. Im starting to see muscles appear. I also feel a lot more energetic. Take a look at those vids with people doing 300 pushups for 30-60 days. They get results.

Change comes in increments. A five year change can be subdivided into 2 week periods.

Linking to one debunking article proves nothing. Anyway... I've got no need to promote mones.

To each to their own. Happy Friday everyone!!!
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Thank you, Daozen, and the same to you!

Your posts have inspired me!
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
No. Look at the guys on this site. [link to www.davidgentle.com (secure)]
These guys where all jacked before steroids where invented.
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Most of them still wouldn't inspire female desire though

Short, blocky, wide hips and waists

Thanks but no thanks
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10/26/2017 07:56 PM
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
Everything is "cope" at some point. Work on some goals and be happy.
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
You can increase your testosterone naturally with diet, supplements, exercise.
I just got a book called Master Your T, by Christopher Walker. It lists foods and supplements for increasting T, and etc.
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No you can't. Not to a significant degree anyway.
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10/26/2017 07:57 PM
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
Some of us bulk up quickly

I don't need steroids
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And you're build like a cube with down syndrome
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I am?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74252682


Yes

If you're honest and bulk up quickly, you're a stocky fugly special champ.

But since you're not honest or are deluded about your potential...


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Some people gain muscle quickly

Their bodies are Arnold bodies without the steroids
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10/26/2017 07:59 PM

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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
As the above poster MarPep quoted....

Steroids have many potential side effects--physical and mental and psychological--and most of them bad.

I'm 57 and feeling my age. I work out and lift weights to be more mobile and to alleviate the pain of Rheumatoid Arthritis. If I get buffed out, its just an added benefit...

So lifting weights and working out is not pointless without steroids. Lots of good benefits to be had without the drugs....
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10/26/2017 07:59 PM
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
on day op, you too will grow up and realise this world has a lot more to offer, than women.

good luck in the meantime.
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You mean I will go through andropause some day? Yeah, probably I will, but that's nothing to look forward to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75755922


no you dipshit. you will not go through any kind of andropause nonesense.

what the problem here is you just havn't had enough sex yet to realise is always comes at a price, just too naive to realise that. once you do, you will find other more interesting and productive things to do than simply rubbing skin until you orgasm.

do you even realise how caveman you sound right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52253891

You sound depressed.

Get your testosterone levels checked too.
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10/26/2017 08:02 PM
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
Don't understand the lift to get chicks thing.

As a cyclist, I only lift in the off season to get more muscular balance and strength. So, lifting is worthwhile here.
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Cycling is useless and actually comes with its own side effects too, like lowered testosterone and even testicular cancer from the constant pressure and micro trauma to the testes from the bike seat.
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10/26/2017 08:02 PM
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
Op has no idea what he is talking about lmfao
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10/26/2017 08:03 PM
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
Redpill:

1. Women don't care how much you can lift, they only care what you look like

2. Most men who lift weights without steroids still look like shit

3. Women don't know and don't care if you take them, they only care about the end result.

And don't give me this: "you lift for yourself" bullshit, because you know it's just COPE.
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As long as you're eating the right things,pushing enough weight, and making sure you take long enough rests time between sessions you can make great gains
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10/26/2017 08:04 PM
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
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And you're build like a cube with down syndrome
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I am?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74252682


Yes

If you're honest and bulk up quickly, you're a stocky fugly special champ.

But since you're not honest or are deluded about your potential...


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75754049


Some people gain muscle quickly

Their bodies are Arnold bodies without the steroids
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74252682


And they're 5ft tall


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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
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I am?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74252682


Yes

If you're honest and bulk up quickly, you're a stocky fugly special champ.

But since you're not honest or are deluded about your potential...


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75754049


Some people gain muscle quickly

Their bodies are Arnold bodies without the steroids
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74252682


And they're 5ft tall


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75754049


That's in France. You French are short

I am 6'
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
Redpill:

1. Women don't care how much you can lift, they only care what you look like

2. Most men who lift weights without steroids still look like shit

3. Women don't know and don't care if you take them, they only care about the end result.

And don't give me this: "you lift for yourself" bullshit, because you know it's just COPE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75755922


As long as you're eating the right things,pushing enough weight, and making sure you take long enough rests time between sessions you can make great gains
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71688786

Keep believing this propaganda from the magazines, and keep training harder and longer, you might add 0.5 pound of muscles more in 5 years
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
Op has no idea what he is talking about lmfao
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On the contrary
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10/26/2017 08:06 PM
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
I'm 61 and benched 300lbs recently. My goal is 315. It's about the process of improvement and confidence you gain being strong.

But I actually look pretty darn good and no steroids.
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Maybe you have good genetics then.

But 80% of gym goers still look like shit, so your anecdote doesn't prove anything.

And NO, it's not about any "process", it's about looking as good as you can as fast as you can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75755922

Not about: "building inner confidence at accomplishing difficult goals"???(And Feeling good about yourself.)???????

I bet if you could buy muscle mass with a credit card instead of earning it; you'd stay home...

You're missing the point me thinks..

You probably buy $400 Jeans with fake Work stains too" doncha'"
another do
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10/26/2017 08:07 PM
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
This guy didn't start bodybuilding til he was 40. Yes, he probably used steroids.

[link to i.ytimg.com (secure)]

He was an average guy age 40. By 44, he was more or less a living God.

[link to i.ytimg.com (secure)]

And this dude:

[link to jetsetlife.tv]

This guy started a transformation in 90 days:

[link to s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com (secure)]

He's not huge, but I bet he's not using roids.

Girls like 6 packs anyway. U can get a 6 pack without steroids. I was showing a Filipina girl the before and after ripped-over-40 pics the other day, and she was drooling over some of the men.

All I know is each set of 10 hindu push ups i do... I feel more alive, more energized, more calm, and more wiry than I did before I did them. I'm only doing small sets of ten, but I do 10-30 sets per day.

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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
on day op, you too will grow up and realise this world has a lot more to offer, than women.

good luck in the meantime.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52253891

You mean I will go through andropause some day? Yeah, probably I will, but that's nothing to look forward to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75755922


no you dipshit. you will not go through any kind of andropause nonesense.

what the problem here is you just havn't had enough sex yet to realise is always comes at a price, just too naive to realise that. once you do, you will find other more interesting and productive things to do than simply rubbing skin until you orgasm.

do you even realise how caveman you sound right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52253891

You sound depressed.

Get your testosterone levels checked too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75755922


for what reason? so i can have this urge to fuck everything? are you like a virgin or something?
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10/26/2017 08:10 PM
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
For me i lift to take out some aggression I build through the day.

Chasing ass won't get you mass. But
Chasing mass will get you ass.

That's my two plates.
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10/26/2017 08:11 PM
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
This guy didn't start bodybuilding til he was 40. Yes, he probably used steroids.

[link to i.ytimg.com (secure)]

He was an average guy age 40. By 44, he was more or less a living God.

[link to i.ytimg.com (secure)]

And this dude:

[link to jetsetlife.tv]

This guy started a transformation in 90 days:

[link to s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com (secure)]

He's not huge, but I bet he's not using roids.

Girls like 6 packs anyway. U can get a 6 pack without steroids. I was showing a Filipina girl the before and after ripped-over-40 pics the other day, and she was drooling over some of the men.

All I know is each set of 10 hindu push ups i do... I feel more alive, more energized, more calm, and more wiry than I did before I did them. I'm only doing small sets of ten, but I do 10-30 sets per day.
 Quoting: Daozen

The first and second guy are OBVIOUSLY on a ton of gear.

The third guy looks like he already had a decent mass but just lost weight.

The fourth guy still looks like shit.
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
Do people really act this way?

You walk around and gawk at people then rate them in your chad system?
That seems gay.
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Gay? really? could you get out of the 80's and stop calling things "Gay". As if ALL homosexual people walk around and gwak at people in order to rate them ....

Choose another word like ...studid or crazy...

--Just saying...
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
for what reason? so i can have this urge to fuck everything? are you like a virgin or something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52253891

Yes, precisely so that you can have this urge to fuck everything.

No, I'm not a virgin.
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
for what reason? so i can have this urge to fuck everything? are you like a virgin or something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52253891

Yes, precisely so that you can have this urge to fuck everything.

No, I'm not a virgin.
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OH HAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHHA THAT SOUNDS SO DEFENSIVE..... lol.
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
for what reason? so i can have this urge to fuck everything? are you like a virgin or something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52253891

Yes, precisely so that you can have this urge to fuck everything.

No, I'm not a virgin.
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OH HAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHHA THAT SOUNDS SO DEFENSIVE..... lol.
 Quoting: Daozen

No, it doesn't.

Why would you assume someone else on the internet is a virgin anyway?

Projection?
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10/26/2017 08:22 PM
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
OP is a good troll
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
OP is a good troll
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COPE
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Re: Lifting weights is pointless without steroids
I've been a dedicated weight lifter for the better part of 20 years and there is some truth in what the OP is saying.

Getting that male model or professional athlete build is a matter of genetics and no amount of proper nutrition, hard work or whatever will change that.

The downside to this truth is that probably less than 10% of men that workout with weights have the genetics necessary.

Yes, one can shoot some juice (roids), but the evidence is now finally coming out after years of people taking them that it might not be worth it.

For instance, it is now known that men over the age of 30 taking steroids are statistically increasing their chance of contracting prostate cancer by as much as 85%.
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OP is a good troll
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COPE
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Ahahahaha

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