Lifting weights is pointless without steroids

Pretty much all MMA fighters are on the juice.

That lean body type requires some sort of gear. Not all gear works the same. Not all is meant to give the bloated muscle look. Look at swimmer Michael Phelps, he was caught juicing. Look at cyclist Lance Armstrong and his steroids scandal. They have/had lean bodies, not necessarily the typical "roided" look.

Not really, the type of exercise they do is great for maintaining a lean physique so long as their diets are in check.

Lots of normies are even lean AF that don't even work out. Some is genetics as well. A lot of MMA fighters look like total couch potatoes as well.

Just because somebody looks great doesn't mean they're on juice.

Women are stupid af

Played college sports. 4 year full ride. The first thing they did was shots of Ethanate and Propianate, types of Testosterone.
We used oral Dianabol in the off season. We had trainers and a Doctor that took blood monthly. The blood kept our liver, and cholesterol levels in check.
I doubled my bench in 3 months. Added 70% to my squat, and overall, I felt invincible.

To avoid Raisin Nuts, a program of off season injections came also. This restored the bodies natural production of Testosterone.
The fallacy that steroids cause impotence, is a lie. Unless you continue uninterrupted on a testosterone injection schedule with no restoration cycle.

By the way a natural lifter,( someone after 2 or 3 cycles of steroids with none for at least a year), you get ripped like nobodies business. You must also push yourself to maintain your bench, squat etc. These will naturally get lighter but you should go to higher repetitions and less weight.
Watching your diet is extremely important if you are over 25 or so.
Starting on these substances should never be attempted until college age or better. Kids that do these when their 14 or so are idiotic and are asking for liver damage or a rage induced felony rant.
Just as everything has it's down side, education and strict adherence to the correct principles are very important.
Beach muscles are easy to get. To develop a base of muscle that stays with you for a long time requires years of uninterrupted training and diet.

Not my experience....

I bulked up huge without steroids, and the wimmenz loved it.

Even those "couch potato" looking MMA fighters have been caught juicing and with steriods in their system. You must be stupid to believe these kind of athletes are completely clean. Some of the gear is so sophisticated these days it can easily pass tests, but the commissions don't care as much as you think they do, especially with cash cow fighters. Even basketball players juice. Sumo fighters too.

The best lean body types and best conditioned are boxers, not MMA fighters. But I'm sure many of them juice too, especially at pro level.

You sex drive is useless while taking steroids! I own a gun so you big mother fuckers don't impress me. Lean and mean mother fucker right here!

I'll dot that pan if you roid rage on me!

Laziness is a disease. Roids are a symptom.

Dick shrinkage is your fate! You can go out like Toothless Aggression!

Fuck your steroids!

Make yourself bad ass as the expense of your life expectancy! I'm sure your heart will give out early in life! Fucking stupid bastards!

Endurance training is where it's at.

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You guys should not worry about biceps but getting a bigger wallet. In the end a woman desires a man with money power than some dude who flexes his muscle on a beach.

Lol wtf do you know. I'm a short man whos muscular and it looks way better than being scrawny. Looks like being so tall robbed u of some brainpower

I was I was just bu bu being generous, Morty.

Won't happen again.

Yup that's right only need 2-3 days and only about a 20 minute workout. Heavier is better IMHO. However as I've gotten older I've found I need to up the aerobics to stay trim. I do that about 4 days a week around 30-45 minutes a session, usually running or biking.

Wrong you do get big and lean without steroids, I and many others are proof

Creatine, protein is all you need, maybe some BCAA if you want

Don't want to big like those freaks in the magazine looks nasty

Short men lifting and getting big looks stupid, short people shouldn't try and get big, doesn't look right on them

1. BCAA has been proven to be useless garbage by scientific studies, get with the program

2. You won't get as big as those "freaks" if you don't want to

3. Short men actually look better ripped than tall men

You have no idea = proven

What's with the fucking quotations?

Cope

Cut MMA fighters are on steroids too

THIS

You're a failure at life, that's what.

Cope some more

If you are lifting weights to attract women you are an idiot.

99% of the women attracted by that is not what you want anyway.

All the women are attracted by that.

No, not by the fact that you're lifting weights, but by your actual physique.

Regardless whether you obtained it through hard work or just juiced up and trained lightly. Women don't care.

posture is all that matters.