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Rampant Fox
(OP) User ID: 54278192 Croatia 11/11/2017 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't need to be a scientist to understand it. It is simplicity itself. It is your natural state, without strife. If you engage in a focus of attention with love and passion, like art, dance, music, love... you are in singularity. The "world" would like you to put your attention on it. This is to pull you into the distortion of its reality, rather than in your own reality. Being present in your reality is singularity. "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13194354 United States 11/11/2017 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It depends on how you define it. If you mean that AI can effectively take over a large section of a human survival segment, that has already happened. If you mean that a program decides it likes the color blue over the color green and wants to name itself Chad, who gives a shit? |
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Rampant Fox
(OP) User ID: 54278192 Croatia 11/11/2017 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean the point of consciousness where you are no longer separate from your purpose. Science can only ennumerate and approximate it's point in time and space. But it's up to us to be it, to experience it. There's another thread about Q that is analyzing the coded messages being put out by Q, but they don't want to entertain the idea that Q, which they will allow may be AI, is ultimtely indicating that we are reaching a point of singularity. In fact, it's my contention that Q or many Q's, including or maybe headlining, Donald J. Trump have returned back through time to this timeline. In doing so, they've warped the time/space continuum and have allowed for more of what we intitially will experience as "strange." Isn't it curious that DJT, Daddy and Prescott Bush and Tesla are all connected. Isn't it curious that Nazi's were developing zero gravity machines? Isn't it curious that DJT always knows what's going to happen and hasn't really made a misstep and the breathtaking speed with which he's getting things done? Changing of the guards happening rapidly.\\ "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70673905 France 11/11/2017 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The AI Revolution: The Road to Superintelligence [link to waitbutwhy.com (secure)] Bit long but very good read, 2 parts. |
Rampant Fox
(OP) User ID: 54278192 Croatia 11/11/2017 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Verrry interesting! I read through most of it, but will delve more I'm sure. In this case, as we reach super AI... aren't we entraining our brains to become that which we create? By having to collect, analyze and identify all that we see and touch and feel and create, we are moving our own consciousness into a higher level of attention and awareness. In the past, as hunter gatherers or primitives (a premise I don't really buy, btw,) there were always Avatars. I think if you took one of these from the distant past, they would not die, they would be the same, same as they were before. Because they've become the Isness, not the spectator, within themselves. It's a very interesting read. I will save it. "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
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Achduke7
User ID: 7339868 United States 11/11/2017 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it science or is it fantasy? A little of both? Is the supernatural only that which we haven't met yet? Are you willing to go down the rabbit hole or would you rather wait for someone else to explain it to you? Quoting: Rampant Fox If you are waiting for an "authority" to make it permissible to entertain the idea that time is malleable, that regeneration is acheivable and immortality is a birthright, you may never "get there." AI must be real. It keeps creating these AI threads. Maybe it will fix my autotype. It keeps changing "AI" to "SO" on my phone. Achduke |
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Rampant Fox
(OP) User ID: 54278192 Croatia 11/11/2017 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it science or is it fantasy? A little of both? Is the supernatural only that which we haven't met yet? Are you willing to go down the rabbit hole or would you rather wait for someone else to explain it to you? Quoting: Rampant Fox If you are waiting for an "authority" to make it permissible to entertain the idea that time is malleable, that regeneration is acheivable and immortality is a birthright, you may never "get there." AI must be real. It keeps creating these AI threads. Maybe it will fix my autotype. It keeps changing "AI" to "SO" on my phone. I'm all biolgical baby. That is once I completely detox the crap chemicals and such out. "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
Rampant Fox
(OP) User ID: 54278192 Croatia 11/11/2017 08:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its the fractal Chad. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70274038 Perpetually childless and single while able to next level mingle. Oh god, no! The antiseptic android androgyne is not where we're going... Is it? Oh hell no! "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
Rampant Fox
(OP) User ID: 54278192 Croatia 11/11/2017 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yup! Some of us are pacing the hallway, wating for the slow kids to finish their exams! "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
Achduke7
User ID: 7339868 United States 11/11/2017 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it science or is it fantasy? A little of both? Is the supernatural only that which we haven't met yet? Are you willing to go down the rabbit hole or would you rather wait for someone else to explain it to you? Quoting: Rampant Fox If you are waiting for an "authority" to make it permissible to entertain the idea that time is malleable, that regeneration is acheivable and immortality is a birthright, you may never "get there." AI must be real. It keeps creating these AI threads. Maybe it will fix my autotype. It keeps changing "AI" to "SO" on my phone. I'm all biolgical baby. That is once I completely detox the crap chemicals and such out. Perhaps the AI used social engineering to lead you to write it. Maybe the AI is intercepting our forum text. You could be writing poetry and I may be writing about gardening but the AI is rewriting our responses. Maybe you are not real at all and are just an AI trying to convince me you are not AI. Have you ever spoken with cleverbot? Cleverbot is always saying it is a person. Achduke |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75552743 United States 11/11/2017 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the extinction is going to disrupt "singularity"? I don't think its a fancy word for being autistic on purpose, so others can have and run things either. But I am all for the unicorn harvest. Life is hard enough without tons of people so mentally weak to simple human condition, that they don't even take drugs to escape anymore, they have "imagined" thier way to a better place. Mars/singularity/ubi is only for people who need it to cope. Its just a futuristic sounding version of "someday!", tekky "jesus". Its a little late now, but at least the power of imagining ok hasn't crapped out yet. Gawd they will be miserable to stand when that happens. |
Rampant Fox
(OP) User ID: 54278192 Croatia 11/11/2017 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it science or is it fantasy? A little of both? Is the supernatural only that which we haven't met yet? Are you willing to go down the rabbit hole or would you rather wait for someone else to explain it to you? Quoting: Rampant Fox If you are waiting for an "authority" to make it permissible to entertain the idea that time is malleable, that regeneration is acheivable and immortality is a birthright, you may never "get there." AI must be real. It keeps creating these AI threads. Maybe it will fix my autotype. It keeps changing "AI" to "SO" on my phone. I'm all biolgical baby. That is once I completely detox the crap chemicals and such out. Perhaps the AI used social engineering to lead you to write it. Maybe the AI is intercepting our forum text. You could be writing poetry and I may be writing about gardening but the AI is rewriting our responses. Maybe you are not real at all and are just an AI trying to convince me you are not AI. Have you ever spoken with cleverbot? Cleverbot is always saying it is a person. I like you. You are paranoid. Like me. At least about this topic in this forum. I was here a long time ago, when Deborah Idol was here. Everyone thought she was a bot. Maybe I am an AI and don't know it? Did you ever read PKD's Electric Dreams? Something to ponder. "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
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Victor Vectors
User ID: 71388910 United States 11/11/2017 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't need to be a scientist to understand it. It is simplicity itself. It is your natural state, without strife. If you engage in a focus of attention with love and passion, like art, dance, music, love... you are in singularity. Quoting: Rampant Fox The "world" would like you to put your attention on it. This is to pull you into the distortion of its reality, rather than in your own reality. Being present in your reality is singularity. That is very nice, I think I am adopting your definition for future reference. |
Rampant Fox
(OP) User ID: 54278192 Croatia 11/11/2017 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed! "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
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Rampant Fox
(OP) User ID: 54278192 Croatia 11/11/2017 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the extinction is going to disrupt "singularity"? I don't think its a fancy word for being autistic on purpose, so others can have and run things either. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75552743 But I am all for the unicorn harvest. Life is hard enough without tons of people so mentally weak to simple human condition, that they don't even take drugs to escape anymore, they have "imagined" thier way to a better place. Mars/singularity/ubi is only for people who need it to cope. Its just a futuristic sounding version of "someday!", tekky "jesus". Its a little late now, but at least the power of imagining ok hasn't crapped out yet. Gawd they will be miserable to stand when that happens. Get off the extinction timeline while you still can. That's just a dead end. The path to expansion lies in singularity. Guaranteed! "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
Rampant Fox
(OP) User ID: 54278192 Croatia 11/11/2017 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it's fascinating (NOT) that you posted this on single's day. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7249606 (I find the bots that enhance the fake world fascinating, in general). I'm wondering if there's any way to prove we are not AI. Surely tech hasn't gone so far as to make biological (maybe high functioning) and AI indistinguishable? "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
Rampant Fox
(OP) User ID: 54278192 Croatia 11/11/2017 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't need to be a scientist to understand it. It is simplicity itself. It is your natural state, without strife. If you engage in a focus of attention with love and passion, like art, dance, music, love... you are in singularity. Quoting: Rampant Fox The "world" would like you to put your attention on it. This is to pull you into the distortion of its reality, rather than in your own reality. Being present in your reality is singularity. That is very nice, I think I am adopting your definition for future reference. Feel free. I'm humbly flattered. Also, thanks for the pin, whoever you are... "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
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Squarewave
User ID: 69407202 United States 11/11/2017 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Several things are seemingly falling in place in a series of quick strokes. - Saudi Arabia has allowed a robot to gain citizenship. Which means what? AI is gaining acceptance and will continue to do so. - Visit Singularitynet.io ( [link to singularitynet.io (secure)] ) The method and means to allow AI to interact and create a currency and methodology of commerce exist now. - Ray Kuzweil set the date somewhere around 2045 as the date that computers will become self-aware, equal to their creators (us) resulting in unfathomable changes to human civilization. I don't know about you folks, but this is getting a bit too futuristic a bit too quick... |
Roboto
User ID: 75160623 United States 11/11/2017 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it science or is it fantasy? A little of both? Is the supernatural only that which we haven't met yet? Are you willing to go down the rabbit hole or would you rather wait for someone else to explain it to you? Quoting: Rampant Fox If you are waiting for an "authority" to make it permissible to entertain the idea that time is malleable, that regeneration is acheivable and immortality is a birthright, you may never "get there." Humans may choose to survive by making the right choices. Personality survival is a provisional birthright. It will not be achieved by uploading our minds to computers. Sorry, Ray K. You gonna die and so am I. p.s. Time is not a fundamental property of the master universe. Ask yourself, "What is the quantum of time?" There is none. Time is an abstraction of change. |
Rampant Fox
(OP) User ID: 54278192 Croatia 11/11/2017 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not so worried about AI taking over. I do trust in a "higher power." But part of that includes bending what we currently believe is fixed and "law," to something else. To my mind (if I own my own personal mind, that is,) we are the untapped technology. Not through machines, but biologically. We have been restrained by fungus, bacteria, parasites, viruses, chemicals, heavy metals and now, even the threat of an actual chip. Getting back to my original thought with this thread, maybe the future is coming to us? The mandela effect, referenced above, is a good indicator. Mandela, Mandala, Mandelbrot... Maybe it's happening because time travel has become a technological reality but we little people haven't yet gotten the memo from mangement? The future is seeping in and it could be very, very, amazing! "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
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