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Root Canal and Crowns or Dentures?

 
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I had one pulled and a filling fell out the other day. It's part of getting old. Dentures are old schooland end up being a problem due to being ill-fitting. Why not slowly replace a few with crowns. The newer kind use a drilled tapped insert and then the crown spins on. This means the height is very adjustable to ensure your "bite" mates up with its opposite.

Meanwhile get an inexpensive oral jet that sluices around the teeth and gums with salt water. Rinse that out. Use coconut oil swishing as that eliminates a TON of microbes and swish that out too.

I bet you end up with serious improvement.

Dentures are bad as the dentists yanks 'em out and it takes time to make them and be fitted. That is definitely a long process.

The rest of my teeth are fine. Doing regular maintenance works.
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Here is the process of extraction then drilling and tapping to put the insert in, then the top crown is attached.
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Anyone ever have dry sockets?

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As mentioned earlier, having root canals can lead to serious problems. It’s like leaving something dead in your body. ..it would be better to pull the cracked tooth, if the tooth cannot be saved.

Dr. Tennant explains how harmful root canals are. The video was posted by
Xenophon in July
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I bet you took no better care of your coochie than you did your mouth.
Can you even find anyone that ain't scared to touch that thing?
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As mentioned earlier, having root canals can lead to serious problems. It’s like leaving something dead in your body. ..it would be better to pull the cracked tooth, if the tooth cannot be saved.

Dr. Tennant explains how harmful root canals are. The video was posted by
Xenophon in July
[link to m.youtube.com (secure)]

Thread: truth about ROOT CANALS
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I got a root canal and the tooth still hurts and the pain spread to all my other teeth. I got rheumatoid arthritis soon after. Now I have the choice of getting the rest of the teeth root canaled. No thanks. I am having them all extracted. Hopefully the RA will go away as others have posted.
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Dry sockets are largely the fault of patients and ignoring wound care. When teeth are pulled, you have a wound in the gums. When eating, you need to irrigate that region to flush out any debris largely from food. Otherwise bacteria will multiply in that "wound pocket". Then inflame the nerves in that region which can be cranial nerve 5 or cranial nerve 7 as branches are in the region of the teeth.

It hurts and if it persists causes an infection that can follow these nerves to the brain.

This scenario is a frequent question on tests for medical personnel. A patient who began with a simple issue of an oral infection then due to neglect and poor care, ends up in the hospital and sometimes dies (rarely). The patient in this category is typically impoverished and either very young or very old and either can't take care of it or is not ambulatory. The infection debilitates them and they are out if it, and then discovered by loved ones after having this condition for awhile.

You can boil some water and add salt and let this cool then irrigate that region. In the old days, dentists would give their patient a small syringe like device with a curved plastic tip to direct a sluicing effect at the wound site. Patients have been able to easily purchase oral irrigators for decades now.
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I had my teeth capped for cosmetic reasons when I was 20. By the time I was 35, the crowns had to be re-done, along with several root canals, and a few extractions and bridges put in to replace the missing teeth. I had a perfect gleaming white smile all of my life thanks to the talents of several prosthodontists and their lab techs.

Then at about 60, the teeth underneath the crowns began to become unstable. One fell out, another got infected and required horrendous surgery to keep the infection from going into the jaw and brain. What had cost me $23,000 in 1970 cost me $50,000 in the late 1980s and now another $40,000 as a stop gap measure while Im deciding which way to go next. I’m facing either dentures, although I’ve lost a lot of bone and may not be able to support them properly - or extractions, bone grafting, a sinus lift on both left and right quadrants, followed by implants (assuming the grafts all take and I have enough bone to support them.)

The last ditch salvation might be zygomatic implants in which a titanium plate is put in over the existing jawbone, and anchored with implants which go up into he skull. They cost over $30,000 for each deep impact, plus another 40k for the titanium plates over the jaw. Once that is healed, then the implants are attached thru the gums and into the titanium plate that’s inside the jaw by that time. Most people report that they spend over $200-$300 thousand dollars on this horrible surgery to rebuild their lower jaw and bone and allow it to support a permanent denture on the titanium plate. The end result looks amazing. But the surgery and pain you must endure to get there is horrendous. For someone who has serious bone loss, this may be their only option.

Explore with a qualified implant specialist the benefits and whether or not you are a candidate for implants at this time. If you have sufficient bone, you have several options. Many of them may well be more cost effective than the multiple endodontic treatments, crowns, bridges, etc. Remember today a root canal can cost upwards of $1000 per single rooted tooth and more on multiple rooted teeth. Then you’ve got the cost of preparing them for a permanent crown, and the cost of the crown itself. Another $2000 or more. You can easily spend $3000 to $7000 per tooth, restoring them using endodontic treatments, crowns, bridges, etc. And they may or may not last for several years. They come with no guarantee. IF you have the bone to handle them, implants are amazing, in some ways they’re as good, if not better than your original teeth were. At least look at the options and consult with experts ONLY. This is not a job for a local non-specialized dentist. You need docs who are experts in endodontics, prosthodontics and implant specialist as well.

Once you have all the options laid out, you’ll be able to make an informed decision. But truly, the implants may turn out to be a better and cheaper option.
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I had my teeth capped for cosmetic reasons when I was 20. By the time I was 35, the crowns had to be re-done, along with several root canals, and a few extractions and bridges put in to replace the missing teeth. I had a perfect gleaming white smile all of my life thanks to the talents of several prosthodontists and their lab techs.

Then at about 60, the teeth underneath the crowns began to become unstable. One fell out, another got infected and required horrendous surgery to keep the infection from going into the jaw and brain. What had cost me $23,000 in 1970 cost me $50,000 in the late 1980s and now another $40,000 as a stop gap measure while Im deciding which way to go next. I’m facing either dentures, although I’ve lost a lot of bone and may not be able to support them properly - or extractions, bone grafting, a sinus lift on both left and right quadrants, followed by implants (assuming the grafts all take and I have enough bone to support them.)

The last ditch salvation might be zygomatic implants in which a titanium plate is put in over the existing jawbone, and anchored with implants which go up into he skull. They cost over $30,000 for each deep impact, plus another 40k for the titanium plates over the jaw. Once that is healed, then the implants are attached thru the gums and into the titanium plate that’s inside the jaw by that time. Most people report that they spend over $200-$300 thousand dollars on this horrible surgery to rebuild their lower jaw and bone and allow it to support a permanent denture on the titanium plate. The end result looks amazing. But the surgery and pain you must endure to get there is horrendous. For someone who has serious bone loss, this may be their only option.

Explore with a qualified implant specialist the benefits and whether or not you are a candidate for implants at this time. If you have sufficient bone, you have several options. Many of them may well be more cost effective than the multiple endodontic treatments, crowns, bridges, etc. Remember today a root canal can cost upwards of $1000 per single rooted tooth and more on multiple rooted teeth. Then you’ve got the cost of preparing them for a permanent crown, and the cost of the crown itself. Another $2000 or more. You can easily spend $3000 to $7000 per tooth, restoring them using endodontic treatments, crowns, bridges, etc. And they may or may not last for several years. They come with no guarantee. IF you have the bone to handle them, implants are amazing, in some ways they’re as good, if not better than your original teeth were. At least look at the options and consult with experts ONLY. This is not a job for a local non-specialized dentist. You need docs who are experts in endodontics, prosthodontics and implant specialist as well.

Once you have all the options laid out, you’ll be able to make an informed decision. But truly, the implants may turn out to be a better and cheaper option.
 Quoting: MarkinAZ

Would be bad to find out later you have an allergy to titanium. I used to use a deordorant (Kiss my Face?) that had titanium dioxide in it. It made my pits get an itchy rash every time I tried to use it.
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I have tons of reactions to many things, and a titanium implant without problems

never had a momnnts trouble after many, many years

the deodorant may have other ingredients causing an itch



if I had reacted to the Titanium in the implant, we would have made medical history

quote of the guy that put it in


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I had my teeth capped for cosmetic reasons when I was 20. By the time I was 35, the crowns had to be re-done, along with several root canals, and a few extractions and bridges put in to replace the missing teeth. I had a perfect gleaming white smile all of my life thanks to the talents of several prosthodontists and their lab techs.

Then at about 60, the teeth underneath the crowns began to become unstable. One fell out, another got infected and required horrendous surgery to keep the infection from going into the jaw and brain. What had cost me $23,000 in 1970 cost me $50,000 in the late 1980s and now another $40,000 as a stop gap measure while Im deciding which way to go next. I’m facing either dentures, although I’ve lost a lot of bone and may not be able to support them properly - or extractions, bone grafting, a sinus lift on both left and right quadrants, followed by implants (assuming the grafts all take and I have enough bone to support them.)

The last ditch salvation might be zygomatic implants in which a titanium plate is put in over the existing jawbone, and anchored with implants which go up into he skull. They cost over $30,000 for each deep impact, plus another 40k for the titanium plates over the jaw. Once that is healed, then the implants are attached thru the gums and into the titanium plate that’s inside the jaw by that time. Most people report that they spend over $200-$300 thousand dollars on this horrible surgery to rebuild their lower jaw and bone and allow it to support a permanent denture on the titanium plate. The end result looks amazing. But the surgery and pain you must endure to get there is horrendous. For someone who has serious bone loss, this may be their only option.

Explore with a qualified implant specialist the benefits and whether or not you are a candidate for implants at this time. If you have sufficient bone, you have several options. Many of them may well be more cost effective than the multiple endodontic treatments, crowns, bridges, etc. Remember today a root canal can cost upwards of $1000 per single rooted tooth and more on multiple rooted teeth. Then you’ve got the cost of preparing them for a permanent crown, and the cost of the crown itself. Another $2000 or more. You can easily spend $3000 to $7000 per tooth, restoring them using endodontic treatments, crowns, bridges, etc. And they may or may not last for several years. They come with no guarantee. IF you have the bone to handle them, implants are amazing, in some ways they’re as good, if not better than your original teeth were. At least look at the options and consult with experts ONLY. This is not a job for a local non-specialized dentist. You need docs who are experts in endodontics, prosthodontics and implant specialist as well.

Once you have all the options laid out, you’ll be able to make an informed decision. But truly, the implants may turn out to be a better and cheaper option.
 Quoting: MarkinAZ


Implants are cheaper in the long run, and a permanent solution, not a patch. When you add up all the cost of a root canal, crown, and then the fact you are on borrowed time with a tooth that is going to have to be pulled anyway, down the road, you are better off getting implants. All of my teeth that went bad first, were all crowned/root canal. Most of them snapped off at the gum line.
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08/04/2019 06:49 PM
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Op I never use dentists, but I take good care of then, occasionally there is situations where you need them.

But in the mean time get 20pmm colloidal silver, wash your mouth out with it, I discovered it helps with sensitive teeth and excellent anti-bac to use

But I would have them all out personally, I hate teeth.
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I had a root canal and it wasn't painful at all. Just took way too much time. Probably 3 hours twice, once to cut the top half off and drill, and later another 3 hours to attach a new top and finalize the shape of the top to match the other teeth. And it cost around a thousand dollars. But I have a real looking tooth that gives me no problems.





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